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Melanie Herring / Purplekecleon / PK / PapayaKitty / GlitchedPuppet / Ash Hazel Woods / Floraverse - Abusive, manipulative SJW artist whose ex-husband fucked a dog and teenagers and whose current husband thinks he's trans because of a TF fetish, admitted to fucking two dogs and letting her cat eat her out
I just think the saddest/funniest part of this all, is that we will never run out of content to mock PK and Eevee.
We've talked about pity, and sometimes I am overwhelmed by it.
Then I remember these two are into pedophilia and zoophilia and then I remember why I even dared become a Kiwi.
Also, indirectly relevant to this; I had talked about JitterbugJive/BaldDumboRat around pages 800 or so. (Does he have his own thread? I'unno)
And I am not going to bother looking for my posts, instead I am going to spam you guys with stuff I had already said
He's currently 20+ something, probably 30 already.
Some years ago he shared about being raped when he was an infant, and how it fucked him up now that he's an adult. The whole hypersexuality, even for a long while he... Coped(?) by acting like a dog, where he'd eat from a bowl and all that. I don't remember that part too well, and I am not about to spread lies.
Anyway, he's an illustrator, and as any other illustrator with childhood issues and rape survivor, he has mechanisms that most of us don't understand; One of them is drawing underaged My Little Pony characters porn. He commented about drawing it to cope and what not, and mentioned him posting it on e621, but never linked to his profile, or the illustrations itself, so there wouldn't be any dumb pubert "misclicking" and being exposed to that kind of devious kink.
Someone called him out on it. Not because of drawing child porn, the callout was because he made the posts public, and with that, an actual pedophile could run into these drawings, and feel like "Oh, pedophilia is actually normal, I don't need to hide myself anymore, since there's lots of people here that think like me".
He took the drawings off, understanding that that type of drawings is best you keep them to yourself, or a really small group of people that share similar coping mechanism.
Point is, he messed up, he apologized, took action, and did what he could to correct himself. He owned up to his mistakes.
Mind you he crosses the line often, but he tries to clean up his shit. He tries to grow as a person.
Something PK could learn to do. But their narcissism gets in the way.
Yes, Jitters has a thread here, because he's a personal lolcow of mine, and I'm the one who made it, lol. To be fair to him, though, the thread's mostly perpetually dead, because he keeps to himself and doesn't do much outrageous enough to pique any interest here.
I'd just like to point out that while Jitters does claim to use his CP as a "coping mechanism" he did not take it down because he felt bad, he took it down because he feared the consequences. He's on the same boat as PK in how he loves to glamorize it, he's just a TIIIINY notch better than her because he'll own that it's a fetish/morbid fascination thing instead of trying to dress it up as anything more.
I'd be wary of any optimism related to claims like these, though, because I'll have you know that he intends on doing a sympathetic pedophile character in his new comic, "My Magic Grandpa" and has always shown more captivation and empathy toward the perpetrators over the victims in his CP-related work.
I think we're giving PK MORE than the empathy she deserves by looking so seriously at her claims of being a victim coping. Slight powerlevel here, but I've seen a lot of artistic coping related stuff firsthand (for reasons I will not disclose) and such people are encouraged to use it in place of self-harm like cutting, drug abuse, eating disorders, etc, but it's a very fine line that's monitored very vigorously by therapists because of the risks attached to such coping becoming an obsession or emotional crutch, which is why most therapists will discourage these artists from sharing it outside of the shrink's office.
Agreed. She's grasping at straws to dodge criticism, giving credence to her "wah I drew kid characters getting fucked by adults on my porn site for a good reason!!" is silly
(sorry this is unrelated to the current "drawing rape to cope with abuse" discussion lol)
i really don't understand why anyone enjoys following these clowns on social media, especially glip. even if you believe that glip is totally innocent, their tweet storms are so annoying. i honestly really liked the copic doodles they posted the other day, but they followed it up with like 30 tweets ranting about how those pesky kids are telling me how to draw my abuse porn!!
i have zero problem with artists i like posting personal things (including rants), but no matter how much i enjoyed an artist's work i would get real tired real fast if they were clogging my timeline with the same crap day after day. you want some mildly interesting drawings of some animals? have fun digging through 80 million tweets to get to it.
Call me crazy but I have a very slight suspicion that Quill might actually be Marl's character, the body shape and personality is almost like his pokesona was and this is yet another character that they refuse to name who it belongs to. but then again I might be overthinking it too much.
interestingly, the caption is: "offered without context [...] still amazed no one has noticed" , which kind of rang some alarm bells in my head... like... noticed what? that you keep mentioning quill? are you implying that quill is relevant in your life? or am i INTENDED to read too much into it? what a headache
im digging around for who this "quill" might be connected to and found a few things:
1. theres a character from pmd-e, quillon the keldeo, but i dont think hes relevant, and i cant really find any info on him anyway, PLUS im p sure glip is the one who made him
2. the person who made Shroomsworth was called luvaci, (link has a description of a post proving that he did in fact create/own shroomsworth), who was speculated to have ALSO created the floraverse character quillion in this very thread on page 602:
i also remember seeing glip refer to this person as "quill" when i was in the pmd-e group, but ive got no proof, unfortunately.
if luvaci is the person who created both characters, then marl isnt the maker of the quillion; luvaci is. and if luvaci is indeed the creator of quillion, that means that glip and eevee still have contact with them. AND given the fact that shroomsworth and pk had romantic and sexual relationships in pmd-e, it wouldnt surprise me if the irl counterpart indulges in those things, too, which might explain the recent forflor drawings.
not really related, but shikka has drawn art of shroomsworth in the past, so they either knew/know this person, or they just liked the character and drew fanart for that reason. could be either/or. just thought it was interesting because shikka is a close link of glip/eevee's.
Didn't stop you from writing that Oh Joy Sex Toy strip about how healthy and awesome polyamory was, and how you were a bad partner if you were uncomfortable with it, you absolute toad.
putting this under a spoiler because its mostly a personal account. tl;dr that comic made me feel like shit for that very reason lol
:powerlevel: i was in a poly relationship at the time this comic came out and i was in claude's shoes. i projected hard onto it, thanked glip for making it.... but i was miserable. constantly paranoid about not being loved as much as the other partner; trying so hard to accept them in the smiles-and-sunshine way glip portrayed in that comic. i felt so bad because of the fears that i had (that claude also had) but that i couldnt immediately quell them like claude did.
now im out of that and in a monogamous relationship that is so much less stressful than a poly one. not saying poly relationships cant work, but goddamn, if youre still feeling those negative feelings after months of being in that relationship, then its fucking OKAY to not be in one and it doesnt mean youre a bad partner
i mean, i GUESS? but i dont think its an apples-to-oranges comparison. people PROJECT their feelings onto media when they consume it; thats why some scenes make some people bawl their eyes out while some people have no emotional reaction. if people relate to a character or situation, theyll feel something when they see those characters/situations. if the character is well-written, people who have never been in those situations may be able to project anyway and feel those events as if they were there.
thats... projection, though. and empathy. its not really "emotional manipulation" in the colloquial sense of the word. its a LOT of different things.
I understand how this could be a coping mechanism but I still think ik it's kinda shitty one tbh, the whole point of recovery is growing past trauma not living it again over and over, you're not growing past it by drawing cp, you're indulging on the same dangerous thoughts and harmful scenarios, some part of your mind is already seeking solace in what already hurt you in the first place, much like abussive relationships and harmful addictions.
Important disclaimer: I am not a psychologist, so I am saying this out of talks I've had with other people, some that have indeed studied psychology, and as such, my words are not to be taken as 100% true.
The thing about "reliving" the traumatic event, is that this time, they have control over what happens.
The rape survivor writes/illustrates the same traumatic event, but with a different outcome; Which could be this time, the dominant one is the kid, and has everything under control. Or he overpowers the rapist and manages to escape.
Or a more fucked up approach, the rapist ends up showing actual care and tenderness for the victim.
I think it was mentioned earlier that the best way to handle this would be going to therapy and talk about your issues with an expert, trained to help you overcome the past event.
i can confirm what dirtuga is saying. i think the key thing is that once the traumatic feelings are out, you dont revisit them so graphically. even a revised narrative is a form of retraumatization, which just 'refreshes' the neuro-pathways involved in the traumatic event. put simply, it makes you relive the event. the brain relives events as flashbacks/etc in PTSD (usually without warning/conscious want) because its trying to figure out why those things happened; it thinks that if it plays over the memory enough times, itll find the answers. so once someone has overcome that, indulging in vent art could actually be considered a form of self-harm because youre forcing your brain to relive something it has already processed - just like notsoacecat said. this is coming from a person with a psych background and who also used to indulge in retraumatization to cope themself.
retraumatization can also be harmful in that the person engaging in it might inherently condition themselves to believe that traumatic shit is "okay". maybe this is why glip so vehemently supports this kind of media
glip could be utilizing the "rape survivor having control over the trauma" with their self-inserts ""teaching"" kids sexuality too early; they are now the one in control, not the one being abused. its understandable... until they post MULTIPLE things with kids or repost things that ARENT used to cope with trauma but that still involve minors being sexually exploited. making this abuse canon because it's "cute" is a huge fucking red flag, and i cant see it as coping at all. glip's history with these things greatly surpasses the healthy amount of "coping" a victim should do.
a therapist, particularly one that utilizes cognitive behavioral therapy, would probably be the best route to go. however, narcissists typically dont seek out therapists because they dont believe theyre wrong. glip certainly doesnt believe they need to change, so they likely wont be seeing a therapist any time soon.
I'm really interested on where is Marl and what's he doing this days, could be that Marl's dad got his belt and personally overseeing his pedo dog fucking son? It's a cop after all.
interestingly, the caption is: "offered without context [...] still amazed no one has noticed" , which kind of rang some alarm bells in my head... like... noticed what? that you keep mentioning quill? are you implying that quill is relevant in your life? or am i INTENDED to read too much into it? what a headache
im digging around for who this "quill" might be connected to and found a few things:
1. theres a character from pmd-e, quillon the keldeo, but i dont think hes relevant, and i cant really find any info on him anyway, PLUS im p sure glip is the one who made him
2. the person who made Shroomsworth was called luvaci, (link has a description of a post proving that he did in fact create/own shroomsworth), who was speculated to have ALSO created the floraverse character quillion in this very thread on page 602:
i also remember seeing glip refer to this person as "quill" when i was in the pmd-e group, but ive got no proof, unfortunately.
if luvaci is the person who created both characters, then marl isnt the maker of the quillion; luvaci is. and if luvaci is indeed the creator of quillion, that means that glip and eevee still have contact with them. AND given the fact that shroomsworth and pk had romantic and sexual relationships in pmd-e, it wouldnt surprise me if the irl counterpart indulges in those things, too, which might explain the recent forflor drawings.
not really related, but shikka has drawn art of shroomsworth in the past, so they either knew/know this person, or they just liked the character and drew fanart for that reason. could be either/or. just thought it was interesting because shikka is a close link of glip/eevee's.
putting this under a spoiler because its mostly a personal account. tl;dr that comic made me feel like shit for that very reason lol
:powerlevel: i was in a poly relationship at the time this comic came out and i was in claude's shoes. i projected hard onto it, thanked glip for making it.... but i was miserable. constantly paranoid about not being loved as much as the other partner; trying so hard to accept them in the smiles-and-sunshine way glip portrayed in that comic. i felt so bad because of the fears that i had (that claude also had) but that i couldnt immediately quell them like claude did.
now im out of that and in a monogamous relationship that is so much less stressful than a poly one. not saying poly relationships cant work, but goddamn, if youre still feeling those negative feelings after months of being in that relationship, then its fucking OKAY to not be in one and it doesnt mean youre a bad partner
i mean, i GUESS? but i dont think its an apples-to-oranges comparison. people PROJECT their feelings onto media when they consume it; thats why some scenes make some people bawl their eyes out while some people have no emotional reaction. if people relate to a character or situation, theyll feel something when they see those characters/situations. if the character is well-written, people who have never been in those situations may be able to project anyway and feel those events as if they were there.
thats... projection, though. and empathy. its not really "emotional manipulation" in the colloquial sense of the word. its a LOT of different things.
i can confirm what dirtuga is saying. i think the key thing is that once the traumatic feelings are out, you dont revisit them so graphically. even a revised narrative is a form of retraumatization, which just 'refreshes' the neuro-pathways involved in the traumatic event. put simply, it makes you relive the event. the brain relives events as flashbacks/etc in PTSD (usually without warning/conscious want) because its trying to figure out why those things happened; it thinks that if it plays over the memory enough times, itll find the answers. so once someone has overcome that, indulging in vent art could actually be considered a form of self-harm because youre forcing your brain to relive something it has already processed - just like notsoacecat said. this is coming from a person with a psych background and who also used to indulge in retraumatization to cope themself.
retraumatization can also be harmful in that the person engaging in it might inherently condition themselves to believe that traumatic shit is "okay". maybe this is why glip so vehemently supports this kind of media
glip could be utilizing the "rape survivor having control over the trauma" with their self-inserts ""teaching"" kids sexuality too early; they are now the one in control, not the one being abused. its understandable... until they post MULTIPLE things with kids or repost things that ARENT used to cope with trauma but that still involve minors being sexually exploited. making this abuse canon because it's "cute" is a huge fucking red flag, and i cant see it as coping at all. glip's history with these things greatly surpasses the healthy amount of "coping" a victim should do.
a therapist, particularly one that utilizes cognitive behavioral therapy, would probably be the best route to go. however, narcissists typically dont seek out therapists because they dont believe theyre wrong. glip certainly doesnt believe they need to change, so they likely wont be seeing a therapist any time soon.
interestingly, the caption is: "offered without context [...] still amazed no one has noticed" , which kind of rang some alarm bells in my head... like... noticed what? that you keep mentioning quill? are you implying that quill is relevant in your life? or am i INTENDED to read too much into it? what a headache
im digging around for who this "quill" might be connected to and found a few things:
1. theres a character from pmd-e, quillon the keldeo, but i dont think hes relevant, and i cant really find any info on him anyway, PLUS im p sure glip is the one who made him
2. the person who made Shroomsworth was called luvaci, (link has a description of a post proving that he did in fact create/own shroomsworth), who was speculated to have ALSO created the floraverse character quillion in this very thread on page 602:
i also remember seeing glip refer to this person as "quill" when i was in the pmd-e group, but ive got no proof, unfortunately.
if luvaci is the person who created both characters, then marl isnt the maker of the quillion; luvaci is. and if luvaci is indeed the creator of quillion, that means that glip and eevee still have contact with them. AND given the fact that shroomsworth and pk had romantic and sexual relationships in pmd-e, it wouldnt surprise me if the irl counterpart indulges in those things, too, which might explain the recent forflor drawings.
not really related, but shikka has drawn art of shroomsworth in the past, so they either knew/know this person, or they just liked the character and drew fanart for that reason. could be either/or. just thought it was interesting because shikka is a close link of glip/eevee's.
This actually makes a lot of sense, specially since the character shroomsworth was one of PK's favorite "pets" to put in this kind of scenarios, could they have stepped up their game and get out of the rp thing to an actual part of the "happy polyamorous triangle"?
the duo is literally incapable of change or learning so it strikes me as very odd they haven't mentioned anything about this "quill" outside of that one comic, living with anybody else, or being involved with anybody else. but i really don't think it's this shroomsworth person, we would have noticed them interacting with the duo somewhere already if it was. its either opa or marl still.
I'm willing to bet Quill is someone who was fairly close to the group, but doesn't post much on the internet. What with Glip going full lockdown in april and as Opa claims, telling people to unfollow them and disassociate publicly to avoid harassment, it could be anyone. Luvaci sounds fairly reasonable to me, given the copious amount of pk/shroomsworth smut Glip drew.
Edit: Found Luvaci's twitter and Tumblr, if anyone wants to dig around. There's a pk commission on the Tumblr but since I'm on mobile I can't tell when that was done/reblogged.
Edit edit: luvaci is indeed the creator of Rhodes, and wrote the fic of rhodes and pk having sex, credit given. As referenced in a few Tumblr posts, he also went by riiko.
Since Mismatch was ungraciously retconned, I wonder if the owner of Quillion (the elephant) had his oc redesigned and renamed to the Quill we know now, so he could stay involved with Glip without having to reference a missing comic.
I don't think he's Marl, but damn, that would be hilarious.
I'm willing to bet Quill is someone who was fairly close to the group, but doesn't post much on the internet. What with Glip going full lockdown in april and as Opa claims, telling people to unfollow them and disassociate publicly to avoid harassment, it could be anyone. Luvaci sounds fairly reasonable to me, given the copious amount of pk/shroomsworth smut Glip drew.
Edit: Found Luvaci's twitter and Tumblr, if anyone wants to dig around. There's a pk commission on the Tumblr but since I'm on mobile I can't tell when that was done/reblogged.
Edit edit: luvaci is indeed the creator of Rhodes, and wrote the fic of rhodes and pk having sex, credit given. As referenced in a few Tumblr posts, he also went by riiko.
This. This is how you write an honest apology. I really hope Luvaci can live past this all and is no longer participating with anything within it, for his and everyone elses sake.
Kind of off-topic, but GrimArt posted a character in their new comic, and the character's ears have upside-down exclamation points like the masked sun. I kind of wish more people would have a picnic with flora's Creative Copyright....it's pretty amusing. The best part is that it's a suspect who knowingly contracts and spreads STD's
Kind of off-topic, but GrimArt posted a character in their new comic, and the character's ears have upside-down exclamation points like the masked sun. I kind of wish more people would have a picnic with flora's Creative Copyright....it's pretty amusing. The best part is that it's a suspect who knowingly contracts and spreads STD's
i have trouble believing that it's cope art too because gp/pk doesn't self-insert as the victim. i've never seen it where people cope by inserting as the rapist. also, she never uses the story to talk about how rape is a terrible thing and there's never any justice for victims of any kind. I expect rape vent art to be from the victim's perspective-ish and to focus more on overcoming the trauma in the story and finding catharsis or something. but gp/pk's art is just the trauma and nothing else, with her as the bad guy.
I'm proud of this person for growing up and doing better than what they were doing before. im so glad they have been able to move past gp/pk and that they can now set a good example for everyone else
I'm genuinely happy for Luvaci confronting the callout and handling it in a proper manner.
But some kind of pattern I have been noticing, is that all of the former PMD-E staff members (that now claim have had no contact with PK for a long while), never did anything to speak against Glip, especially now that they seem to be in a safer space to do that. What with Marl's logs dropping in and the like.
I guess PK is great at installing fear upon their staff members.
Some fucked up friendship that is.
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