Richard Meyer v. Mark Waid (2018)

Waid Livestream - What will happen?

  • Talks about the lawsuit.

    Votes: 3 8.1%

  • Further incriminates himself.

    Votes: 18 48.6%

  • Defames YaBoi again.

    Votes: 5 13.5%

  • Doesn't talk about the lawsuit nor CG.

    Votes: 2 5.4%

  • Host disagrees with Waid on something, chimpout insues.

    Votes: 7 18.9%

  • Normal interview. (no drama)

    Votes: 2 5.4%
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damian said:
But Superman and Captain America would definitely approve of sending butthole pics to Lex Luthor and Red Skull, right?
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Fake comics geeks like you obviously never read the DC/Marvel crossover where Batman and Daredevil took down a Joker/Kingpin teamup by emailing them photos of their "Batpole" and "billy club".
 
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damian said:
:story: If I have to hire some guy on Fiverr to record this, so be it. Zaid is looking less confident about his "SUPER LAWYER" title each time he talks about this case.
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He appears to be boasting about his client's animus against Meyer, which is the improper malicious motivation that moves his actions outside the realm of protected speech and into unprotected tortious interference. This isn't terribly bright.

Still, I'd wait to see if he tries twitter-tier dumbness in court. Just because he's spouting off in public doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be equally unprofessional in front of a judge.
 
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I guess Zaid's tweets are hearsay and therefore inadmissible against Waid.

Waid's tweets, on the other hand...
 
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Ah. The old "but Your Honor, the plaintiff is a Nazi" defense. Works every time.
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Oh please go to trial, i need more laughs.

Looking into the author of the inverse hit-piece looks like they *might* be a little biased. Written for the Mary Sue, Wants to vote out all the GOP piece of shits, retweeted Maggs bitching about Trumps space force, tweets and writes about gay/trans issues. Certainly looks like a lesbian, but in this day and age though is probably FtM or some other 'genderfluid' nonsense.
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DragoonSierra said:
Heres a question. Has Meyer ever described himself as the leader of comicsgate?
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No. In fact, a while back he even told everyone he was over ComicsGate. Edwin Boyette (that guy with the fantastic hair that always does video replies to people) basically told him “too bad. You’re in it. You can’t just leave.” So he didn’t push that hard.
 
Comicsgate leader is suing a Marvel/DC writer for defamation
Gavia Baker-Whitelaw — Oct 1 at 5:59AM
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Comicsgate figurehead Richard C. Meyer is taking DC/Marvel writer Mark Waid to court, suing him for “tortious interference with contract and defamation.” Meyer accuses Waid of ruining his career in comics; a bold move considering the reputation Meyer already created for himself.

Gaining notoriety as a conservative reactionary YouTuber, Meyer is best known for provoking harassment campaigns against women, people of color, and trans people in the comics industry. He’s the comics publishing equivalent of Milo Yiannopoulos, and his behavior is widely documented on social media and in mainstream outlets like the Guardian and Washington Post. As for defamation, Meyer is well-versed in the topic himself, having accused several well-known comics creators of pedophilia (without evidence), and he described a female Marvel editor as a “cum dumpster.”

The lawsuit relates to Jawbreakers, a comic written by Meyer and drawn by Jon Malin and Brett R. Smith. Jawbreakers is an action comic about a team of former superheroes, marketed as an “apolitical” response to a perceived progressive bias at Marvel and DC. It was initially meant to be published by Antarctic Press (a small indie publisher), but they dropped it following backlash from the comics community. Several retailers promised to boycott the comic if it came out, while prominent writers and artists criticized Antarctic Press for giving Comicsgate a platform.

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By this point, in May 2018, Meyer and Comicsgate were already infamous for stirring up trouble. Waid was one of the most high-profile people to speak out against Jawbreakers, posting on Facebook to say he’d personally informed Antarctic Press of Meyer’s behavior:

“I have a call in to Antarctic Press. Until I hear back, I’m (hesitantly) willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that they don’t really understand who or what they’re getting into business with, which – though it would seem a stretch – is a possibility. If I do hear back, I’ll report in. Curious as to how they feel about publishing creators whose marketing strategy is to allegedly (*koff*) encourage their fans to threaten the employees of stores, and/or harass and one-star-review-bob stores, that don’t order their product.”​

Soon after, Antarctic dropped Jawbreakers. Meyer decided to self-publish on Indiegogo instead, successfully marketing the comic as a battlefield in the culture wars. Basically, he used this controversy to gin up further support—and characterize himself as an underdog rebel while Waid represented the comics establishment. He even accused Waid of threatening Antarctic Press and shared a post alleging that Waid got Marvel Editor-in-Chief C.B. Cebulski to put further pressure on the publisher. There’s no evidence that either of these things happened, and Antarctic denied both in a now-deleted tweet:

“FACTS: Mark Waid put a call in to our office. Staff took a message and told Mr. Waid our publisher would be informed. Nobody at AP contacted @CBCebulski or @Marvel nor felt threatened in any way by Mr. Waid’s call. We have not been bullied into a decision by any comics pro.”​

Meyer’s lawsuit frames Waid as his nemesis, saying that he personally defamed Meyer’s character and irreperably damaged his career. It describes Antarctic Press as “frightened for its very survival by Waid’s threats,” with Waid as the sole reason Jawbreakers got cancelled – ignoring the widespread public outcry from numerous other creators and comic stores. Meyer also says that Waid falsely accused him of sharing a list of comic store owners (i.e. doxing them), and defamed Meyer by characterizing him as “racist, serial harasser of minorities, and as affiliated with white supremacists.” He demands a jury trial and $75,000 in damages.

In response, Mark Waid enlisted so-called “Superlawyer” Mark Zaid, best known for his work with political whistleblowers and for suing Libya for $2.7 billion over the Pan Am 103 bombing. In a statement to the comics blog Bleeding Cool, Zaid wrote:

“Mark will aggressively fight this frivolous lawsuit with every legal means available but at the end of the day what will have the greatest favorable impact for him are the actual facts. Mr Meyer’s’ lawsuit will further reveal to the world his true nature. Ironically his own litigation will likely increase the professional isolation he alleges Mark has caused.”​

Waid’s choice of legal representation is a reminder of how mismatched this alleged rivalry actually is. Meyer’s influence looms large in the comics community, but that’s because he intentionally courts controversy to promote his work. Picking fights with Mark Waid gives the impression that they’re somehow on equal footing, but legal action is a different ballgame from Twitter flamewars. Waid has the means to hire a good lawyer and, most likely, crush Meyer’s lawsuit like a bug.

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They’re really going full-court-press to win this in the court of public opinion. Unfortunately for Waid, a court of law is where this will be decided. Not on the Daily Dot or whatever trash-tier sycophantic blog/media source they elect to publish their next hit piece.

I need to see a livestream of this case!
 
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