Careercow Mark Waid / William Mark Waid - Comics legend turned laughingstock, SJW lunatic, Dislikes Asians, Sued for Tortious Interference, King Baby, “The Strong Protect The Weak”

Meyer V Waid - WHO WILL WIN?

  • King Baby Waid

    Votes: 18 8.1%
  • Cough Commander Meyer

    Votes: 205 91.9%

  • Total voters
    223
  • Poll closed .
Hm, interesting. This does however bring up the prior issue as a new question. Either Waid is actually able to afford Zaid, which makes one wonder exactly how much more he was getting paid than most comic writers, or Zaid is actually, really exceptional enough to donate his time at no or reduced charge on behalf of an angry little troll likely to perjure himself and lose the case.
 
Hiring local council and an expensive lawyer from DC, ie blowing tons of money, seems right up Waid’s alley. He’s a massive piece of shit who will do anything to win and destroy/humiliate people he hates.

It’s incredibly stupid and irrational but so is Mark Waid. So blinded by hate he’ll piss away money to try and win one over DnC just to prove a point.
 
I don't really understand legal procedures, if Zack loses, will he have to cover Waid's legal fees? If not, Waid's choices seem to be:
- Just pay whatever Zack was asking
- Pay for the lawyer(/sneed)
With what Zaid is charging, wouldn't it work out cheaper to just concede?
 
New I don't really understand legal procedures, if Zack loses, will he have to cover Waid's legal fees?

Generally, no. The loser doesn't pay the winner's legal fees unless there's a statutory exception.

While it would definitely be in Waid's best interests to settle, there are a couple things in play:
-Lawsuits are often driven by emotion, not logic. Waid may be ignoring the advice of counsel and going with a win-at-all-costs approach.
-We don't know Zaid's strategy. Waid has more money than Zack. The longer this goes on, the worse it is for both of them, but moreso for Zack (because he has less money). If Zaid pushes settlement as far back as possible, it might force Zack to settle for less than he would right now while he's still flush with Indiegogo cash.
-Realistically, we are still very early in the process. Everybody's still in posture-mode trying to feel out the other side. Even if Mark is planning to settle, he still needs to hire a law and file a response because ignoring it would be an automatic loss.
 
Hm, interesting. This does however bring up the prior issue as a new question. Either Waid is actually able to afford Zaid, which makes one wonder exactly how much more he was getting paid than most comic writers, or Zaid is actually, really exceptional enough to donate his time at no or reduced charge on behalf of an angry little troll likely to perjure himself and lose the case.
Wonder if Zaid is working on contingency? If that is true it would not automatically be true for this new local lawyer that has joined the team. Either way the funding of this legal endeavor does not make much sense without more information. However, Zaid's outburst towards Rekieta makes one wonder about how personally and or emotionally invested Zaid is in this lawsuit. Being personally invested in something is a double edged sword. It can motivate one to work harder but also be blinding and make one more prone to errors in judgement.
 
While it would definitely be in Waid's best interests to settle, there are a couple things in play:
-Lawsuits are often driven by emotion, not logic. Waid may be ignoring the advice of counsel and going with a win-at-all-costs approach.
-We don't know Zaid's strategy. Waid has more money than Zack. The longer this goes on, the worse it is for both of them, but moreso for Zack (because he has less money). If Zaid pushes settlement as far back as possible, it might force Zack to settle for less than he would right now while he's still flush with Indiegogo cash.
-Realistically, we are still very early in the process. Everybody's still in posture-mode trying to feel out the other side. Even if Mark is planning to settle, he still needs to hire a law and file a response because ignoring it would be an automatic loss.

It's possible that Zack's lawyer is doing this on a contingent fee (he only gets paid when he wins) basis. Besides that, even if Zacks attorney's fees are out of pocket they would probably be about $30k top end, because he made a reasonable choice of attorneys and didn't hire some east coast hotshot who's likely to make as many problems as he solves. $30k isn't chump change, but Zack likely makes decent money at his regular job, lives super cheap (he's renting a room in his buddies house right now and drives a cheap ass Kia), and he just made a scad of money on his comic books. I suspect that Jawbreakers, ironically enough, paid for Waid to get sued.
 
Apparently Zaid is still representing Waid as lead counsel, but a local counsel was needed as Zaid is not licensed in Texas.

Well, assuming Zaid is telling the truth, and I have no reason to believe he isn't, that will be the case, but until a PHV motion is granted, he isn't representing anyone in Texas in any case in the Western District of Texas.
 
Wonder if Zaid is working on contingency?

Contingency of what? There's no scenario that has Waid gaining money.

He either a) spends a lot of money settling with Zack up front or b) spends a lot of money on a lawyer who wins for him and that's the end of it or c) spends a lot of money on a lawyer, loses, and then spends some amount of money on the settlement, as well. Sucks to be Mark Waid in all possible outcomes. Right?
 
Contingency of what?

I thought this too, then I considered the possibility the contingency is that Waid is only billed if Zaid wins, as opposed to Zaid being entitled to part of a settlement.

Which could lead to some hilarity even in the event Wzaid wins, 'cause I could see Waid stiffing SuperLawyer on the bill.
 
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Mark Waid was interviewed recently:
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Might be something in there about the lawsuit or a spergout, busy atm can’t watch it:
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https://www.facebook.com/mark.waid/posts/10156922363720799 https://archive.fo/T7Uqc
 
I thought this too, then I considered the possibility the contingency is that Waid is only billed if Zaid wins, as opposed to Zaid being entitled to part of a settlement.

Which could lead to some hilarity even in the event Wzaid wins, 'cause I could see Waid stiffing SuperLawyer on the bill.
No lawyer would ever do that because there's like a 99% chance of getting stifed. The contingent fee thing works because they make the check out to both of you when you win and it goes in the lawyers account first.
 
I thought this too, then I considered the possibility the contingency is that Waid is only billed if Zaid wins, as opposed to Zaid being entitled to part of a settlement.

Defense lawyers don't do that. Why would they do that?

It's money up front or fuck off.
 
Someone sent me this, has some pretty interesting data concerning a big name writer like Waid compared to a lesser-known writer, Jim Zub:
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Since Zub has taken over, second prints of Champions have been more frequent. As in shops actually ordering more or it's more Marvel shenanigans like them being free promotion material. Depends on whether you're an optimist or pessimist.

Notice the steep drop from issue #1 to #2, an 84.85% drop and it kept dropping until issue #6. After that little bump on issue #6, it started to drop again and would get another small bump at issue #10 and #12. It got a big bump (85.43% increase) on issue #13 because of Marvel's ridiculous Lenticular requirements, then suffered another big drop (54.08% drop). The book has pretty much idled around the 16K~17K range, excluding the latest issue issue which had a bump and managed to return into the 20K range. Looking forward to see how long that bump lasts:
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Marvel made it a requirement that if you wanted to sell lenticular covers (LC for short) of series (X), you had to purchase 100% (or more) of series (Y) to be able to purchase LC (X). Basically if you wanted to buy a LC of Spider-Man, you first had to buy 100% of a lesser selling series like Squirrel Girl.
After Waid left the book, the damage was already done, but Zub might just be able to salvage the series somehow. IMHO the series is dead in the water, outside of a complete reboot and replacement of all characters involved I don't see this series continuing for long.
 
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I realized that I haven't combed through his website for content to post here, and boy did I find some:

A blog-post where he berates Rich Johnston (the guy he gave exclusive interviews on the lawsuit) as a slimmy little weasel looking to drive traffic to his site by using 'a slapfight Waid got into' for click bait:

TWITTERAZZO
Jun 15, 2009
One of the life lessons I will apparently never learn is that it never, ever pays to mix it up on the web.

Last Friday morning, I was awakened by an early phone call. A friend of mine–let’s call him/her “Pat,” just to keep her/him out of this mess–was calling to tell me that industry rumormonger Rich Johnston, in trying to drive traffic to his new rumor site, was contacting him and others for “comments and background” based on a Twitter comment I’d made, since deleted.

Yeah, I know. Twitter’s a public forum. That’s the point of Twitter. I get it. But (a) the only “story” seemed to be whether I knew this person and, if so, how and why–how is that anyone’s business and how does that merit an outside follow-up, and since when am I Kim Kardashian, who cares?–and (b) the sidewalk outside my house is a public forum, too, but that doesn’t mean I’m not allowed to get frustrated if paparazzi stake it out to take pictures of whoever might be dropping by.

In this particular instance, the collateral damage was fairly negligible (which, in my experience, is unusual for a visit from Rich). Pat seemed harassed and annoyed that he’s being bugged out-of-the-blue, I got an early wake-up call, I had to take time out of a busy morning to commiserate with Pat…that’s no big deal, I suppose. But you can bet that the first thing I did after that was block Rich Johnston from following me on Twitter. I mean, as he does with all comics pros, yes, he’s gonna cyberstalk me and the rest of us everywhere we go anyway in hopes that he can find things to pull out of context and twist into a morass of Dramatic Supposition that can give his site more hits. There’s no stopping that. That’s how he chooses to feed his family, by doing things like exploiting Twitter streams to his monetary advantage. But anything I can do to make that less easy for him, I will. And if you think that’s foul play, you try spending a chunk of your workday dealing with the backlash that happens when the context of your words is ignored and they are instead judiciously lifted, edited, and then spot-welded to paraphrase and conjecture simply to create someone else’s traffic-for-profit. Doesn’t matter how careful you try to be about what you say; hell, give me ten Kurt Busiek posts, a text editor and a need to drive traffic to my site, and I could make Kurt sound like a nut…and Kurt’s the yardstick by which pretty much all of comicdom measures Good Internet Behavior.

So, anyway, I block Rich from eavesdropping, treat him the same way I do that weird Britney Porn video twitterer that finds us all sooner or later. (What, just me?) No big deal, so far, so good. But then I let my annoyance get the best of me. I then offered to spot ten bucks to the HERO Initiative charity for anyone else who followed suit and permanently blocked this Twitterazzo from eavesdropping on his or her account.

I suppose you see where this is going. Meaning that you are wiser than am I.

In retrospect, bad form, words chosen poorly, a kneejerk reaction on an already bad morning. (But, to be fair, kinda funny.) I honestly assumed the only replies I’d get would be from fellow pros (because who else would even care or know what I’m talking about?) equally as frustrated with him as I’ve been–and, believe me, plenty such replies rolled in. In addition, however, I also got an unforeseen slew of fans following suit, eager to make a contribution to charity even though they didn’t have a dog in this fight. And I will freely admit being overwhelmed by that, maybe even a little bit intoxicated by the momentary power. (Because that’s what passes for “power” in my tiny world. My tiny, tiny world.) But it was a fleeting moment. And I honestly didn’t see–don’t see–the harm.

However–that wasn’t the intent. The intent was to raise awareness among fellow pros to be careful and to remind them that even their personal, non-comics chatter is under the microscope of a guy trying to attract attention to himself and his own work by leveraging the reputations of others. So the charity donations start to stack up, which is swell, and pros are being reminded, “Hey, yeah, I oughta do that” and acting on it…but then someone else points out that if Rich is blocked often enough in a short-enough timespan, his account might be banned.

Well, that’s no good. That’s also not the intent. Twitter’s not my private property; I don’t have the right or the desire to decide who can and can’t play there, nor would I
ever assume otherwise. So a couple hours into it, I decide I’ve made my point–a bunch of pros have messaged me “Oh, yeah, thanks for the reminder–blocked!”, the charity is richer…and God knows Rich’ll be able to find some way to monetize the event on his site, as he always does, so shed no tears for him. I dial it down, and at the $540 threshold, I call “game over” and everyone goes on his or her way and I think it’s over because IF self=relaxed THEN GOTO opening paragraph.

You would think I would be capable of learning. I have thumbs. And yet.

In the last 48 hours, the private messages and e-mails and “you’re such a bully, Mark Waid!” crime-of-the-century comments have been rolling in from those who’ve read Rich’s account of this whole affair over on his Avatar Publishing-funded, “Nothing I’ve done with [my website] has been an attempt to stir up controversy” website and think they now know “the real story.” Well, no, but I can certainly see how they’d think so after reading Rich’s write-up. So now I’ve said my piece. I don’t know or care if it makes me look better or worse–I suspect nothing I’ve written here has swayed public opinion on my level of childishness pro or con, and I admit to a moment of dubious judgment–but since this seems to be eating up so much of the comics blogosphere’s time and energy, I was asked to give my side.

While Rich is certainly capable of doing some genuine reporting from the greater good, and he has, he also causes a great deal of unrepentant harm. Gossip, by its nature, is salacious and unreliable and does more damage than good, and that’s something we all learn almost as soon as we learn how to talk. I’m as guilty as anyone else of dishing it after a drink or two, but I would no more think to make a living off of it than I would sign up to be a Big Tobacco lawyer. Nor would I try to hide behind bogus disclaimers or semantic technicalities if I was busted. I doubt there’s much question at this point in my career that if I have something to say, I tend to come right out and say it.

Actions have consequences. Say what you like on the internet–God knows, I write something stupid there pretty much every time I hop on–but don’t be disingenuous about it. If you said something that causes harm, if you knowingly implied it…then own it, be honest about your motivations and methods, stand by it if it’s true and apologize if you were wrong and hurt someone, and then move on. Here, I’ll start. If Rich had to take time away from his day to deal with any unintended Twitter fallout, I apologize. See? Was that so hard?

A blog-post where he explains why you shouldn't use the dreaded R-word, ironically enough written by an R-word:

THE "R" WORD
Apr 30, 2012
In the spirit of trying to learn and be receptive rather than hidebound and ranty, I have a question for all creative types: where do you draw the line on using certain words/images/phrases that could be inflammatory?

I ask because a couple of times over the past few weeks, I’ve been brought to task by bloggers over the casual use of the word “retard” in the LUTHER short story. I admit to being annoyed that both times, those who were offended either ignored or didn’t understand that the entire point of the story was that (spoiler) in the end, the narrator comes to realize that maybe he ought to be a little more careful about how he uses that word…

…but to some people, the lesson learned is outweighed by the use of the word in the first place. Now, I could go off here and windmill my arms and bombast about how words like that get their power precisely because we whisper them, or about how language should never be off-limits in stories meant for adults, or how the whole impact of the story is lost without that word, but the truth is…



…that last one’s not exactly true. I could easily have used another, less colloquial word than “retard” and still have had the same story, right? It wouldn’t have been a clean substitution, but I’m skillful enough to dance adroitly. I count three edits:

“Luther’s a little retard fella” could become “Luther’s a little special fella” ;

“‘course, so did the REST of us, so we threw Bill OUT for pickin’ on the RETARD” could become “…pickin’ on the SLOW kid”

and “…I might oughta re-evaluate my definition of the word ‘retard.’ ” could become…

…what? What, exactly? “Slow”? “Mentally challenged?” It has to be a word that’s a direct call-back to one used earlier in the story, nothing else has resonance–that’s just Writing 101, the call-back. Could be “special,” but…eh, that’s not the point of that reveal, exactly. The point (obviously) is, “I thought this kid was too stupid to understand that money is useless, but I presumed too much about what he was doing, so I’m the stupid one.” So “special,” while a sweet thought, is sentimental and not the clean landing you want as a writer.

I guess I kinda knew that all along, but this isn’t a straw-man post intended to defend my choice; it’s a genuine question as to whether or not that exact ending was worth the use of the word. I think so, but YMMV. So I’m moved to ask four questions:

1) Were you offended?

2) Were you not offended but can see how others might be?

3) Is it a complete non-issue in a creative environment?

4) Finally…ask yourself those same questions but forget that the provocative word in this story was the “r” word. Suppose, for reasons that made perfect sense in context, it had been one that started with an “n”…?

There's other posts where he says the blog will be updated daily and yet has periods of abandonment (hence why I haven't checked it until now).
 
I realized that I haven't combed through his website for content to post here, and boy did I find some:

A blog-post where he berates Rich Johnston (the guy he gave exclusive interviews on the lawsuit) as a slimmy little weasel looking to drive traffic to his site by using 'a slapfight Waid got into' for click bait:

TWITTERAZZO
Jun 15, 2009


A blog-post where he explains why you shouldn't use the dreaded R-word, ironically enough written by an R-word:

THE "R" WORD
Apr 30, 2012


There's other posts where he says the blog will be updated daily and yet has periods of abandonment (hence why I haven't checked it until now).

Great find, but the auto text mangled it in the most hilarious way possible.
 
Re-posting from RCM v Waid thread:

Mark Waid starts a Legal Defense Fund
https://www.gofundme.com/mark-waids-legal-defense-fund (Archive)
Balding Childless Weirdo's GFM said:
The Mark Waid Legal Defense Fund

My name is Mark Waid . I’m a New York Times-bestselling comics writer. In September of this year, I was sued by one of the perceived leaders of a relentless online harassment movement called “ComicsGate” which I and many comics professionals strongly feel has unfairly and offensively targeted women, people of color, and LGBTQ+ creators working in our industry in an effort to make them feel unwelcome. (You can read more about some perspectives on ComicsGate and its harassment techniques in the Washington Post and on Inverse .) I firmly believe this lawsuit is an effort to silence those of us who stand up publicly against bigotry and racism and who continue to defend diverse creators from harassment.

You can learn more about the lawsuit here , here , and here , and I encourage you to visit my website markwaid.com for further details.

Even though I am confident that the claims made against me are entirely without merit, lawsuits are time-consuming and very expensive. Still, I have never backed down from bullies, especially those who denigrate my friends, colleagues and the values our community stands for, and while I am not a rich man, you have my solemn promise that I will fight this fight no matter the personal cost.

But I’m going to need your help.

If you believe, as I do, that women and people of color deserve to be able to do their jobs—or any job—without being bullied, donate. Stand with me. If you believe that someone's gender or sexual preference should have no bearing on the career they pursue, donate. Send that message.

This isn’t just about me; it's about standing together in the face of bullying. Every day that we don't push back against online harassment, it only becomes nastier and more powerful.

This is an important fight. Thank you for having my back.
He made an update to his blog:

GOFUNDME
Oct 25, 2018 By Mark Waid
My name is Mark Waid. I’m a comics writer. In September, I was sued by a man named Richard Meyer, one of the perceived leaders of an online movement called “ComicsGate” that I and many comics professionals strongly feel has unfairly and offensively targeted women, people of color, and LGBTQ+ creators working in our industry. (You can read more about some perspectives on ComicsGate in the Washington Post and on Inverse.) Mr. Meyer alleges that I deliberately and singlehandedly blocked the publication of one of his comic books. I did no such thing, and I believe this lawsuit is his effort to try and intimidate and silence those of us who stand up publicly against bigotry and racism and who continue to defend diverse creators from harassment..

Mr. Meyer is also suing me for defamation, claiming that in taking a stand against ComicsGate, I have defamed him by allegedly referring to him as a “racist,” “serial harasser of minorities,” and as “affiliated with white supremacists.” Here is just a small sampling of Mr. Meyer’s social media posts that can be judged by their content:

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You can learn more about the lawsuit--and Mr. Meyer’s online presence--here, here, and here.

Even though I am confident that Mr. Meyer’s claims are entirely meritless, lawsuits are expensive and time-consuming. If I were wealthy, a lawsuit wouldn’t be much of an issue, but I work, y’know, IN COMICS. My expenses already tally more than $25,000, with much larger bills to come. Still, for nearly 40 years, I’ve been lucky enough to write stories featuring heroes we all know--characters like Superman and Captain America--who taught me at an early age to stand up for kindness, equality, and tolerance. I have never backed down from bullies, especially those who denigrate my friends, colleagues and the values our community stands for, and while I am not a rich man, you have my solemn promise that I will fight this fight no matter the personal cost.

But I’m going to need your help.

If you believe, as I do, that a person of color should be allowed to write and draw comics without being called a “race hustler” or a “minstrel show” performer, donate to my GoFundMe legal fund [link]. Send that message. If you believe, as I do, that a woman should have the right to work in this or any industry without being called a “c**dumpster,” donate [link]. Make yourself heard. If you believe that your gender or sexual preference should have no bearing on what and how you choose to create, donate [link]. Stand with me.

It isn’t just about me; if we don’t fight online harassment, it only becomes nastier and more powerful. This is an important fight. Again, you can donate here:

DONATE HERE

Thank you for having my back.
The fund goal (hilariously enough) is the exact amount YaBoi is asking for in his lawsuit and the thought of industry speds donating into this and the GFM money being used to pay YaBoi gives me a :shit-eating: .
 
Notice how Waid is suddenly being very careful to say "perceived" and "strongly feel". Gee, almost as if his legal counsel has advised him that he brought this lawsuit on himself with his earlier definitive statements. Now he's forced to >imply that Meyer is calling black creators "minstrels" and women "cum dumpsters" instead of just claiming it outright.
 
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