🐷 Ethan Oliver Ralph / TheRalphRetort / Rad Roberts / Jcaesar187 / Rage Pig / "Killstream" / "Tequila Sunrise" - 5'1'' fat alcoholic, owner of a gunt, convicted felon and revenge pornographer, property of the ugly failed tranny pornstar Lucas Roberts. Has quadruple titties.

[DunrikNurd]

You suck at consensus cracking kraut or krautfriend. Why are you guys always so bad at that? Anyway, you don't have to follow someone else's morality to point them out on hypocrisy. The questioner would presumably want them to take money from all sources.

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Only saying if the cancer children are important why try to point out other sources of "tainted" money. There was nothing wrong with Ralphs donation until WSJ tainted them and there is nothing wrong with St Jude taking corporate money either. Of course they got scared and I'm shure WSJ painted a flattering picture of Ralph when they spoke

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Like you noted, performance is not at all the issue with video streaming. It's basically brainless i/o.

The hard part is bandwidth. @Null went over the numbers in this post.

Hmm. Not good. If I look here

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2853702?hl=en-GB

1080p @60fps

• When you schedule Events, make that you tick the 60fps box in the Ingestion Settings tab if you are not using a variable resolution stream key. Stream now will auto-detect the frame rate and resolution.
• Resolution: 1920x1080
• Video bitrate range: 4500–9000 Kbps

1080p

• Resolution: 1920x1080
• Video bitrate range: 3000–6000 Kbps

720p @60fps

• When you schedule Events, make that you tick the 60fps box in the Ingestion Settings tab if you are not using a variable resolution stream key. Stream now will auto-detect the frame rate and resolution.
• Resolution: 1280x720
• Video bitrate range: 2250–6000 Kbps

720p

• Resolution: 1280x720
• Video bitrate range: 1500–4000 Kbps

480p

• Resolution: 854x480
• Video bitrate range: 500–2000 Kbps

360p

• Resolution: 640x360
• Video bitrate range: 400–1000 Kbps

So even for 360p which is pretty ghetto you're looking at ~700kpbs for mid range bitrate. So 13,000*700 gives you 9GBps. Which is still a lot

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/jim-j...nternet-aristocrat.24191/page-88#post-3704933

Servers usually have 1Gbps ports, my servers either have 2, 3, or 4 1Gbps ports. In order to accommodate a 50Gbps line I'd need 50 fucking NICs and a router with the same number of ports. Most routers only have 12, 24, or 48. You're talking tens of thousands of dollars in hardware alone.

Ok, but Ralph was making ~10K a month. I think I'd go for some second hand/old servers. Of course you'd need a savage internet connection.

It's not clear what sort of Internet Ralph could get where he is. I'm sort of wondering if you could split the servers over a few locations and load balance.

The bandwidth/hardware calculation for hosting in the US is pretty depressing though ....

And you're right C is better than C++ for systems stuff.

 

[verissimus]

Hey, new to posting here, but I thought I'd mention that TDC has mentioned this story and point to a reference one comment made which could be nothing.

Here's the piece: https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/03/youtuber-blames-wsj-canceled-donations/

Who is Michael Edison Hayden one comment mentioned?

 

[Null]

See this is the great thing about this argument. People throw out ideas. Lets say that Ralph can afford this. What happens next? Who are you going to use to process your credit cards? Stripe? PayPal? Braintree? Authorize.net? Pick your fucking poison. You'll be kicked off immediately. When we ran our own in-house donation form we got removed when "someone" charged $11,000 in stolen credit cards on it to get them to do an inspection and close it down.

Try talking to Ralph's audience about bitcoin adoption. Try talking to this community about Bitcoin donations. Have fun!

 

[byuu]

You can always let the Chinese take over and use AliPay.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

Whoever asks that question better make sure that they never have shopped at kmart or H&M or own Apple products or a pair of Nikes...

The point is to hold them to their own standards. They're the ones making the moral stand, let them hang on that cross.

You can always let the Chinese take over and use AliPay.

Jim's nuclear option. I wonder if Jim will finally just make the move to xtube or whatever that kid unfriendly site he talked about is.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

When we ran our own in-house donation form we got removed when "someone" charged $11,000 in stolen credit cards on it to get them to do an inspection and close it down.

And "someone" made a bunch of attacks on voat

https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Voat#Raped_by_reddit_over_and_over

DDOS, CP posted, host phoned about the CP posted, hosting pulled, complaints to PayPal, PayPal pulled.

They survived all the dirty tricks though. But you're right, any site set up to allow people escape censorship is going to have a lot of "someones" trying to destroy it.

 

[AnOminous]

When we ran our own in-house donation form we got removed when "someone" charged $11,000 in stolen credit cards on it to get them to do an inspection and close it down.

No doubt someone with a barely concealed slavering lust for nubile boy ass.

 

[Secret Asshole]

I hope I'm proven wrong.

Sure the hardcore followers will stick around a few weeks, the rest of us will just watch the clipshows on youtube, but it wont be the same. Some of the fascination for me is the guys streaming from the enemy camp, if they end up in some safe harbour, some of the edge is taken off imo.

I still think you have to much faith in the fans, but time will show.

Btw. I can accept you calling me stupid, but calling me Bronx Blogger... that hurt. Apologize!

Alright, I'm sorry. No one should be branded with being associated with that fat faggot. But eventually alternative media platforms are going to need to be established. YouTube is a ticking time bomb, and eventually everyone is going to be booted off, including PewdiePie. The bigger ones will be the last to go, but again, its only a matter of time. They don't want creators, are doing everything in their power to make it unfriendly to creators. You think the Adpocalypse was forced? Fuck no, that was a great thing that landed in their lap, from YouTube's perspective. They lost advertisers for their creators, making it a lot harder for them to make money, forcing them off the platform. Now people are making money with streaming, YouTube is starting to fuck with that now. Its only a matter of time before Superchats become untenable.

YouTube is massively purging itself. Ralph isn't an outlier, he's the canary in the coalmine. JF thinks he's going to survive. He's not. Ralph was the biggest and most visible, hence the easiest. They knew the shitstorm for him. JF will be far easier to remove. He thinks he fcan abide by the ToS. Well, Zidan did. They not only eliminated his streaming account, but the email associated with it. They removed ANY ability for Ralph to come back, ToS or not. JF thinking the ToS will save him when he has people like Roosh on and is an admitted white nationalist is fucking hysterical. He's now on their radar thanks to that article. Realistically, they can boot anyone, for any reason, at any time. ToS or no ToS.

They're just doing it very piecemeal, to keep YouTube's budget as little in the red as possible. They're making it harder and harder for people to come on the platform and be established. This isn't going to change.

This has always been the case. None of this situation is "new" except that news cycle is much quicker. Sensationalist journalism is older than the US constitution.

Fair enough

 

[Anonymousshitposter09]

I don't know guys, I'm not feeling this gamergate 3.0 campaign.

I still remember when Poodiepie tried to take the WSJ down using his army of 12 year olds and what a surprise! it didn't work either because it mostly appeals to Boomers and Xers.

Memes aside, gamergate was not responsible for Trump and Brexit, but demographic changes and economic anxiety. And its only gonna get worse when climate change makes entire regions of earth (mostly the third world) uninhabitable. The rapefugee crisis will look like child's play compared to what's coming next.

Totalitarian governments and war for resources are our future.

 

[AnOminous]

They're just doing it very piecemeal, to keep YouTube's budget as little in the red as possible. They're making it harder and harder for people to come on the platform and be established. This isn't going to change.

Anyone with any sense should be proactively leaving. If for no other reason than Google rapes you for 30% of all that superchat shit. Use streamlabs instead at the very least and plan on moving somewhere else.

For now, they're on the top of the world, but in the long term, if people quit creating content there, they're dead. Nobody fucking wants GoogleTV.

 

[verissimus]

@Secret Asshole

Yeah, Zidane really got screwed over. I'm honestly surprised he and Ralph still have Twitter (...for now).

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

At least it is a good episode.

Murdoch Murdoch is quality entertainment even if his politics are bit bonkers. It's a travesty he'll being silenced by Bay Area wankers with even more bonkers politics.

 

[Least Concern]

A brief introduction to Dlive from someone who knew about and used it (as a viewer) before TRR joined up.

Dlive is a video hosting and streaming service. Technology-wise, it's not all that different from Twitch or YouTube in that regard. The videos it hosts and broadcasts are not on a blockchain.

That being said, Dlive used to be integrated with the Steem blockchain. Aside from handing user-to-user token transactions like Bitcoin and Litecoin and such, the Steem blockchain allows users to attach long text messages to transactions, or replies, upvotes and downvotes/flags on existing messages. The Steem blockchain generates tokens regularly to users based on the upvotes they have received. Front ends for the blockchain can use these features to present various interfaces for these features. The most widely used interface is Steemit, which presents the blockchain like a blog/forum site somewhere between Reddit and Livejournal, where users can upvote good posts and comments or flag bad ones, but there are other interfaces which display the content of the blockchain more like a standard forum, or like an image hosting site (though the images themselves cannot be hosted on the blockchain; just links to them), or like a microblogging site, or so on. (Some people conflate Steem and Steemit as the same thing, but technically they are not; Steem is the underlying blockchain, and Steemit is the most popular, but one of many, interfaces with which to view the content of, and add content to, the blockchain.)

So Dlive used the Steem blockchain as the back end of a video hosting site; you could use your blockchain keys to log in to your Steem "account," post comments to videos, upvote or downvote videos or streams, or tip streams with Steem's tokens. (Confusingly, the Steem blockchain actually has three "official" tokens on it.) But again, the blockchain only stores links to these videos or streams; it cannot store the videos or streams themselves.

A couple months ago, however, Dlive, for whatever reason, switched from using the Steem blockchain to this in-house Lino one - and promptly lost a lot of users. The Steem blockchain is widely supported enough that there are a fair number of places where you can exchange its tokens for other ones such as Bitcoin, which can then be easily sold for real fiat currency, and the order books (that is, the databases of offers people have placed to exchange X units of token A for Y units of token B) are wide open. Lino's tokens are, as far as I can tell, only exchangeable for Bitcoin or USD on Lino's site itself, and there is no order book, so who knows if the rate they're selling them for is accurate to how the market really wants to valuate them. Perhaps that will change in the future, but for now, the value of the "ice creams" that Ralph is getting is more or less whatever Lino says they're worth. And as far as I can tell, Lino's blockchain, if it really is one, doesn't support video hosting or streaming either - they're still using standard architecture for that stuff.

tl;dr: Dlive/Lino is sketchy. Videos/streams are not on blockchain and not at all uncensorable. If you want to gib shekels, use Streamlabs rather than Lino.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

See this is the great thing about this argument. People throw out ideas. Lets say that Ralph can afford this. What happens next? Who are you going to use to process your credit cards? Stripe? PayPal? Braintree? Authorize.net? Pick your fucking poison. You'll be kicked off immediately. When we ran our own in-house donation form we got removed when "someone" charged $11,000 in stolen credit cards on it to get them to do an inspection and close it down.

Try talking to Ralph's audience about bitcoin adoption. Try talking to this community about Bitcoin donations. Have fun!

no its fine, because they're private businesses, we just have to build our own banking system

 

[Sonork]

This spicy take by Drallasta, Kraut, Bronx Blogger et al is so good.

edit: fixed shitty render

https://streamable.com/nbhqc

 

[Berrakh]

This spicy take by Drallasta, Kraut, Bronx Blogger et al is so good.

edit: fixed shitty render

https://streamable.com/nbhqc

So two kids suffering is worth their shitty internet beef? Interesting

 

[Kamatsubu]

Even though I don't like Ralph, I can at least agree that it's fucked up to refund all that money. Those kids with cancer need it the most, and that's what really matters in the end. If anything we should do what we can to help those kids.

 

[verissimus]

Apologies for the previous comment. Next time I'll just say so and so is doing a stream.

Edit: I definitely apologize for the previous comment. It's not worth listening to Kraut, Bronx, etc. Dear god the cringe, the projection, the stupidity...

 

[The Sorcerer]

Not the younglings, Yoree.