[X-Post] Closure of the CWCki Forum's Private Discussion Board

[Anchuent Christory]

I've always been of the opinion that the only really worthwhile Chris content is stuff that he generates himself, even to the point that I view the more positive Chris interactions as somewhat of a double edged sword, it's probably the most significant reason why I refrained from donating after the fire and buying any of his merchandise. It's not that I think these things were dumb things to do, quite the opposite in fact, anybody who donated should feel proud.
I feel that the recent ebay order cancellation fiasco and subsequent forum bans illustrate my point fairly well, it's just too easy to give in to temptation and fuck with him, even if you have some justification for it.

I'll wait and see what the community consensus is, and I'm more than sure we'll still get some content from the old lolcow yet. I say maybe relegate him to a sub forum alongside the other lolcows, there's absolutely no way we can stamp out Chris discussion unless it's a bann has happened again offence (which would be silly) so give it a home that reflects it's new status as non central to the forums.

I also fully support renaming the site Kiwi Farms!

 

[The Mackers]

I'm most likely wrong or not seeing the entire picture here but what's the point of not just outright deleting the super secret club board right now and not releasing it's content in January? If we are all sharing the idea that Chris is burnt out and shouldn't be fucked with anymore (which I agree with), why publicize "btw here's all the epac ween stuff we did"?

Dude, shut up or we don't get our content!

 

[Gensdupays]

I suppose in more ways than one, we became the monsters that we fought.

 

[Super Collie]

As someone who's followed Chris (and been in this very community in some sense) since early 2008, I can share the sentiment that Chris' life has gotten significantly more dark as of late. There's charm and there's hilarity in him proudly showing off the Lego MHS in a McDonalds, but there was something distinctly unsettling and "too real" about seeing the burnt up husk of that very same school posted to these forums after the house fire.

That was fucking scary. I remember when Something Awful had its first thread about Chris; I was there for it and it was all well and good. Comparing how I felt about Chris' discovery and how I felt post-fire I realize that there was this really subtle and progressive change in what I found "funny" about Chris. No, his house burning down wasn't funny, but the "greedy fireman" accusations were; that kind of blurred the fact that the only reason there was a "greedy fireman" was because he burnt his house down in the first place. There weren't any weird or dark stipulations to his humor back in 2008; back then he was just a spergy guy with a bad Sonic OC and an even worse comic. Years ago, Chris was that awkward gaming/anime/TCG-obsessed guy we all went to high school with that nobody kept in touch with yet casually wonders what they became; sans-trans, that's Chris.

Given the route his life has taken, especially considering that Katherine was not a real person -- and the high school gal pals were all a farce as well -- I can stand behind the decision to cut things down. Posing as a fake hot chick on the Internet is one thing, but pretending to be people form Chris' past is a little too fucked up for me to get behind. That's some 1984-levels of bizarre. If there is unreleased content (art, pictures, etc) from the "golden era" then it would be nice to see them, but I personally don't think we need to hear Chris lamenting his father's passing or see pictures of his taint piercing (assuming he was conned into sending them to "Katherine", etc) or see another video of him like he was in "I Love You Katherine" or "To Mr Smith".

Having a Chris sub-forum alongside Golden Knight and ParkourDude is fine, and I do think that the archives of Chris' more amusing years should remain online in some form. I associate a lot of positive memories with Chris, at least some of the less spiteful things like his awkward childhood pictures and the firsthand experiences of people who had to deal with him IRL (PureEval666, etc). I trust the people in charge here will make the right choices in the end, however.

 

[4Macie]

I'm most likely wrong or not seeing the entire picture here but what's the point of not just outright deleting the super secret club board right now and not releasing it's content in January? If we are all sharing the idea that Chris is burnt out and shouldn't be fucked with anymore (which I agree with), why publicize "btw here's all the epac ween stuff we did"? Chris will most likely come across it, and if you think his paranoia is bad now wait until he views all the years of being fucked with from the other side. Why not amputate it like the dead weight it is and have us all move onto greener pastures?

I'm not sure what I'm missing here. We all know fucking retards will form their own groups to harass Chris. This shouldn't be us anymore and this needs to be put out back by the shed and given a face full of shotgun. I don't see the point in letting everyone see it either. It's the last thing Chris needs right now.

I think they'll keep a lot of it hidden, we likely won't get EVERYTHING that's there. It'll be little emails and tidbits, not anything super grand I'd imagine, so it's not like releasing it is going to do any harm. But as for the 'why' aspect, I'm assuming it has something to do with the fact that the trolling was done with the sole purpose of getting Chris content, not releasing it is like "why'd we even do this then?".

 

[Marvin]

I'm most likely wrong or not seeing the entire picture here but what's the point of not just outright deleting the super secret club board right now and not releasing it's content in January? If we are all sharing the idea that Chris is burnt out and shouldn't be fucked with anymore (which I agree with), why publicize "btw here's all the epac ween stuff we did"? Chris will most likely come across it, and if you think his paranoia is bad now wait until he views all the years of being fucked with from the other side. Why not amputate it like the dead weight it is and have us all move onto greener pastures?

I'm not sure what I'm missing here. We all know fucking retards will form their own groups to harass Chris. This shouldn't be us anymore and this needs to be put out back by the shed and given a face full of shotgun. I don't see the point in letting everyone see it either. It's the last thing Chris needs right now.

Null's post is just about cwckiforums stuff, which is about a year old now, give or take.

... or see pictures of his taint piercing (assuming he was conned into sending them to "Katherine", etc) ...

You give Chris a lot of credit here.

 

[waffle]

You give Chris a lot of credit here.

So he just sent it over unprompted then? Ewww...

 

[TrippinKahlua]

Wait a second, I missed something probably…

So the posts from Sarah Bevel (which Chris called "Steel-Plated Heart") and Tiffany Gowen and etc. from awhile back were the work of trolls?

I'm kinda but this hit me like a ton of bricks if this is true, because fuck man...

 

[axcel]

Wait a second, I missed something probably…

So the posts from Sarah Bevel (which Chris called "Steel-Plated Heart") and Tiffany Gowen and etc. from awhile back were the work of trolls?

I'm kinda but this hit me like a ton of bricks if this is true, because fuck man...

I'd also like further clarification on exactly what was fake. Where the highschool galpals on FB real? Where ANY of the galpal emails real?

 

[Himawari]

I'm not reading eleven pages of this shit, but I wanna say my part. If it's been said before, just ignore me.

I can tell who basically all those black bars are. So that whole bombshell at this time last year, when we found out that Chris' high school gal-pals never really cared for him and we're just pretending to be his friends out of pity/because Bob/the school made them? That was all fake? Dude, not cool. It's one thing to convince Chris something's true for a short while just to see his tardrage over it (though even that's pretty low), but to not clue in the Christorians that it was all a ruse, having them think for a whole year that it was actually a thing that happened? A year that we've been going around with that info thinking it was a true event, and not letting us know until it was too deep-rooted in Christory to ever completely go back on? The hell were you thinking?? Chris' entire life is documented on the CWCki, and it's bad enough for him with all the true stuff on there, but ruining him even more by fabricating stories behind past friendships and presenting it as truth?? Haven't there been instances of Chris consulting the CWCki himself to jog his memory on his own life? Now he's going to be convinced forever that these girls never cared about him, and if, by some off-chance, they ever tried to reconnect with him he'll never let that happen.

I joined these forums because I wanted to discuss Chris and play armchair psychologist, not to troll him. This seemed like the place to go if you didn't want to mess with him, just wanted to watch him mess with himself. I'm pretty disappointed, but if that's changing now, then whatever, I'm over it.

Will the January infodump include the black tapes?

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

Meh, I feel Fatty needs to be trolled, it's his only human contact. Without the trolls he'd just sit around all day doing nothing. It's the trolls who get him to experience life, to try new things and think about new ideas.

Face facts, Fatty will be trolled. Either by folks like us or people In his real life, he's just that type of person. Slow, arrogant and dumb as a sack of hammers.

Without trolls he's nothing but a sad, lonely man-child playing vidya all day as the world goes on around him. Of which this world already has plenty. With trolls he's the (in)famous CWC.

 

[Iamthatis]

I'm honestly not surprised at all about the existence of the secret board. I am how ever floored that Null has made the decision to come forward with this and be so honest about the part he has played in it. I am honestly impressed at your integrity. As far as the content of the secret board I think the a year is a fair amount of time to allow for the situation to diffuse. If OPL's only friends in life are trolls they can't just all abandon him to Snorlax I think (if his current condition is like how he was in the Kathrine video) it could have very disastrous effects. Even if K isn't real I still think she needs to do a slow pull out so as not to damage Chris. I think it's best to let those people handle this themselves. They where creative enough to integrate themselves so they can handle it. That is just what I think.

Also I think Kiwi Forums would be an awesome name idea!

 

[TrippinKahlua]

Face facts, Fatty will be trolled.

Something will always be a Troll to him (as the Troll of the day was Emmanuel God back last September) and there will always be people to Troll him (Trolling of Chris has been around since the 80s, when his friend Sarah tricked him into looking for Casper under her house.)

 

[blackie toy]

Not particularly surprising. From a community integrity perspective this website needs to distance itself from ongoing trolling. Yes, it'll move elsewhere; so let it. Those who want to continue watching will do so. And when shit hits the fan, these forums will stand a better chance of surviving.

 

[TheJukku]

So uh, unless I'm missing something, most of the stuff that chris seems to have been coaxed into doing is the same kind of stuff these forums would shit on the average ween for doing. Seems like there's been a bit of a lack of self awareness going on and kudos to Null for pointing it out.

PS: If anyone actually talked Chris into getting his taint piercing and it wasn't his own idea, they should probably be genuinely ashamed of themself.

 

[axcel]

Face facts, Fatty will be trolled. Either by folks like us or people In his real life, he's just that type of person. Slow, arrogant and dumb as a sack of hammers.

If you want to fuck with a mentally retarded shut-in, just do it. Don't perform all these disingenuous mental gymnastics to justify it.

 

[The Nameless One]

Like many people, for a while I've been conflicted between a desire to believe that all new content (including the "leaked emails," new sweetheart, etc.) was genuine and a sneaking suspicion that we were all, ourselves being led on a . The caginess of certain VIPs and "I can neither confirm nor deny" attitude was always suspicious.

All I can say is, wow, , you really pulled the wool over my eyes there, and I'm looking forward to seeing the infodump later. Even though I came in late to Christory and always wanted to see another deluge of content like the good ol' days, after everything we've seen this year, I've personally come to accept that even organized trolling isn't going to result in the output that we all want to see, so it's best to just let Chris do what Chris does, appreciate whatever buffoonery he puts out for the public, and move on to other lolcows.

For anyone desperate to witness things like the glory days of Chris content, if you haven't checked him out already, I strongly recommend reading up on Parkourdude. I was reluctant to bother, since I didn't think anyone's antics could be as funny or bizarre as Chris's, but I was totally wrong.

 

[4Macie]

So that whole bombshell at this time last year, when we found out that Chris' high school gal-pals never really cared for him and we're just pretending to be his friends out of pity/because Bob/the school made them? That was all fake? Dude, not cool.

While the emails claiming this to be true may or may not be fake, I'm sure Chris's "friends" in highschool weren't exactly as close as he insisted they were anyway. Not that this excuses anyone for faking documents, especially this long, but it's the truth. Looking at what we know, from Chris himself, he spent two/three classes a week with some of these girls and ate lunch with them, that's it. He invited them to his birthdays, they came, they ate, they left and he was 'invited' to one of their bdays only because he was like "hey, we should have a party for _____, I'll get cake" (or something like this).

They were likely not PAID or anything, and anyone who thought that was pretty mistaken, it probably wasn't even asked of them... it was likely they just felt bad for the weird kid that followed them around during class and then followed them afterclass to lunch.

The whole galpal weren't really his galpal isn't the information I'm worried to find is tainted material.

 

[XYZpdq]

So wait, am I real?

 

[lunac]

So, does Chris know any of this wasn't real? Like, is the "Catherine" troll still operating?