Careercow Wil Wheaton + Felicia Day - The "Man" who soy'd the World and the Fakest of Geek Girls, SJW sexual harassment fence-sitters

[Jaimas]

Wheaton's easily the bigger Lolcow of this pair. Like it isn't even close. But Felicia Day has more than her share of Lolcowdom under her belt, so in the interest of equal time, here's this crosspost from the Chuck Wendig thread on the matter and why she's sort of a trailblazing lolcow:

---COMMENCE CROSS-POSTING PROTOCOL---

Gonna need a quick rundown on Felicia Day, fam. I read some of her thread but a summary of her most egregious behavior would be pretty . Will love you long time.

I'll give you one. I'll even make it topical to this thread.

Felicia Day was, until dethroned by people who, surely by coincidence, all have productive and ongoing threads here, the poster-child for the Hipster invasion of stereotypical spaces, one of the fucking pioneers of the "if you criticize this person, you are a sexist" defense, and a great real-time example of people who have accomplished fuck all within a given hobby suddenly being treated as if they were that hobby's sovereign. And no, I'm not exaggerating, as you'll soon see.

Whenever you're talking about assholes like Anita Sarkeesian, Zoe Quinn, or Brianna Wu, you are essentially discussing someone who is walking the path paved by the likes of Felicia Day. This is especially true in the case of Coraline Ada, because her own wiki fucking lionizes Felicia Day. She's also basically always been a gigantic pusher of feminist identity politics, to boot, so suffice to say a lot of people hated her guts.

I swear to fucking god, this ad was real. This actually happened.

Day got her start as an actress who featured prominently in several of Joss Whedon's works, including Supernatural and The Guild, as well as Doctor Horrible's Sing-Along. As an actress she ranges from great to fucking awful (depends on what she's given, really), but at some point or another, she began being pushed hard on the internet as a self-proclaimed nerd icon. Unfortunately, her doing this came with her pulling the same fucking hipster douche shit that every actual fucking nerd hates. You people fucking all know the one, too: the fucking prepackaged "everyone look what a huge nerd I am lawl" nerd culture angle, which, without exception, comes from people that provably have provably never had anything to do with a given hobby or work of fiction prior to showing an interest in it.

These jackasses and their allies consider themselves trendsetters, even if the hobby or work of fiction they're currently losing their shit over and are clearly so ahead of their time and relevant for talking about existed for years if not decades before they were born and will continue to exist long after they've faded from relevance. All of which ties into their obsession with novelty and contrariness solely for contrariness' sake.

....All of which, in turn, should sound awfully familiar to anyone who's been following the thread of Chucky-boy here, since he's part of the same "no work should ever gatekeep and I don't need to learn anything about what I'm writing about" movement that propped Day up (ironically, since Day actually knows quite a bit about sci-fi, but that's fodder for another thread). Would it surprise fucking any of you to know that he's shilled her works on multiple occasions and that they're IRL acquaintances?

Anyway.

Because Day embraces the same identity politics shit thoroughly, and was being pushed up by the usual crowd, she immediately drew fire. Why she did should not surprise you if you know nerds: Nerd-dom is the sad byproduct of being obsessed with something you love to the point where you've let other aspects of your life flag. That's why it's such a personal affront to actual nerds to claim to be one under false pretense. It's a life born out obsessively caring way too deeply about fucking nerd shit that doesn't matter to anyone but you.

Needless to say, when saint Felicia of Day got blastback for this shit, the usual suspects went nuclear to white knight m'lady. The result was hilariously entitled sperg-rage, and how these fucking nerds hated her because vagina, ignoring that female nerds were taking issue with her just as hard. This was basically a dry run of the Anita Sarkeesian defense tactic. It wasn't as good back then, though, and much like Gabby Rivera unironically referring to comics nerds as Chads, however, their doing so gave away the real reason behind it: You can't really make the argument that a bunch of people who literally do not have a single fuck to give about anything but their spergy nerd hobbies are entitled monsters who believe they have the right to dictate who is and is not allowed without a fucking ridiculous amount of projection.

Critics of Day faced pretty much constant attack on Social Media, far in excess of what many at the time saw, but which is pretty much bog-standard for the current age. Ryan Perez, of Destructoid, actually got fucking fired for asking Day, directly, what she's accomplished that made her so fucking important. Those who called Day out for being a pretender likewise faced fucking hilarious amounts of disproportionate backlash. All of this came to a head with one of the funnier such incidents, after the Autism Holy War began, when Day posted about how she had just survived a close encounter with EVIL GAMER BROS, perfectly encapsulating why she was so fucking hated:

At the end of October, I flew to Vancouver to work on the TV show Supernatural. It was more than two months after the initial blog post (a decade in real-life time), and the gaming world was STILL drowning in #GamerGate. I was walking down the street on one of my days off and saw two gamer guys walking toward me in classic, black crew-neck gaming T-shirts. One Call of Duty, the other Halo.

Now, in the past, whenever I saw another gamer in public, I would feel heartened, because we belonged no matter if we stopped to chat or not. I would go out of my way to exchange a knowing glance, a supportive smile signaling, Yeah, dude. It’s cool that you game. I do, too! We were automatically compatriots in our love for something we both knew was awesome.

But as those two gamers walked toward me, for the first time in my life I didn’t have the impulse to say hello. Or smile. For some reason as I approached the corner . . . I crossed the street instead.

I sat down a few blocks later, because I couldn’t understand what I’d just done. Then I realized that because of the recent situation with #GamerGate, subconsciously I no longer assumed that a random gamer and I would be on the same page, or would connect just because of our love of gaming. There was a wedge in my world where there had been none before.

And for the first time in months . . . I got angry. I WANTED TO WRITE SOME SHIT DOWN, SON!

I pounded five espresso shots, ran back to my hotel room, and wrote a Tumblr post about my experience titled, “Crossing the Street.” And I tried to make it different from the tone of other writing on the subject. I tried to frame my argument in an empathetic way. Not condemn, but make people understand what I was feeling. How I was upset and ashamed at my impulse to avoid those anonymous gamers. How sad I was that the actions of #GamerGate had created that feeling in me, to separate myself from people whom I would have assumed were comrades before. And how the whole situation was creating the outside impression of a culture driven by misogyny and hatred, which I KNEW wasn’t true.

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I'll give some more info on her as time permits. As a lolcow she's almost secondary to the orbiting ring of lolcows that surrounds her and actively white-knights on her behalf.

 

[LN 910]

Wheaton's easily the bigger Lolcow of this pair. Like it isn't even close. But Felicia Day has more than her share of Lolcowdom under her belt, so in the interest of equal time, here's this crosspost from the Chuck Wendig thread on the matter and why she's sort of a trailblazing lolcow:

---COMMENCE CROSS-POSTING PROTOCOL---



I'll give you one. I'll even make it topical to this thread.

Felicia Day was, until dethroned by people who, surely by coincidence, all have productive and ongoing threads here, the poster-child for the Hipster invasion of stereotypical spaces, one of the fucking pioneers of the "if you criticize this person, you are a sexist" defense, and a great real-time example of people who have accomplished fuck all within a given hobby suddenly being treated as if they were that hobby's sovereign. And no, I'm not exaggerating, as you'll soon see.

Whenever you're talking about assholes like Anita Sarkeesian, Zoe Quinn, or Brianna Wu, you are essentially discussing someone who is walking the path paved by the likes of Felicia Day. This is especially true in the case of Coraline Ada, because her own wiki fucking lionizes Felicia Day. She's also basically always been a gigantic pusher of feminist identity politics, to boot, so suffice to say a lot of people hated her guts.

I swear to fucking god, this ad was real. This actually happened.

Day got her start as an actress who featured prominently in several of Joss Whedon's works, including Supernatural and The Guild, as well as Doctor Horrible's Sing-Along. As an actress she ranges from great to fucking awful (depends on what she's given, really), but at some point or another, she began being pushed hard on the internet as a self-proclaimed nerd icon. Unfortunately, her doing this came with her pulling the same fucking hipster douche shit that every actual fucking nerd hates. You people fucking all know the one, too: the fucking prepackaged "everyone look what a huge nerd I am lawl" nerd culture angle, which, without exception, comes from people that provably have provably never had anything to do with a given hobby or work of fiction prior to showing an interest in it.

These jackasses and their allies consider themselves trendsetters, even if the hobby or work of fiction they're currently losing their shit over and are clearly so ahead of their time and relevant for talking about existed for years if not decades before they were born and will continue to exist long after they've faded from relevance. All of which ties into their obsession with novelty and contrariness solely for contrariness' sake.

....All of which, in turn, should sound awfully familiar to anyone who's been following the thread of Chucky-boy here, since he's part of the same "no work should ever gatekeep and I don't need to learn anything about what I'm writing about" movement that propped Day up (ironically, since Day actually knows quite a bit about sci-fi, but that's fodder for another thread). Would it surprise fucking any of you to know that he's shilled her works on multiple occasions and that they're IRL acquaintances?

Anyway.

Because Day embraces the same identity politics shit thoroughly, and was being pushed up by the usual crowd, she immediately drew fire. Why she did should not surprise you if you know nerds: Nerd-dom is the sad byproduct of being obsessed with something you love to the point where you've let other aspects of your life flag. That's why it's such a personal affront to actual nerds to claim to be one under false pretense. It's a life born out obsessively caring way too deeply about fucking nerd shit that doesn't matter to anyone but you.

Needless to say, when saint Felicia of Day got blastback for this shit, the usual suspects went nuclear to white knight m'lady. The result was hilariously entitled sperg-rage, and how these fucking nerds hated her because vagina, ignoring that female nerds were taking issue with her just as hard. This was basically a dry run of the Anita Sarkeesian defense tactic. It wasn't as good back then, though, and much like Gabby Rivera unironically referring to comics nerds as Chads, however, their doing so gave away the real reason behind it: You can't really make the argument that a bunch of people who literally do not have a single fuck to give about anything but their spergy nerd hobbies are entitled monsters who believe they have the right to dictate who is and is not allowed without a fucking ridiculous amount of projection.

Critics of Day faced pretty much constant attack on Social Media, far in excess of what many at the time saw, but which is pretty much bog-standard for the current age. Ryan Perez, of Destructoid, actually got fucking fired for asking Day, directly, what she's accomplished that made her so fucking important. Those who called Day out for being a pretender likewise faced fucking hilarious amounts of disproportionate backlash. All of this came to a head with one of the funnier such incidents, after the Autism Holy War began, when Day posted about how she had just survived a close encounter with EVIL GAMER BROS, perfectly encapsulating why she was so fucking hated:





---END CROSSPOST---

I'll give some more info on her as time permits. As a lolcow she's almost secondary to the orbiting ring of lolcows that surrounds her and actively white-knights on her behalf.

Can I link this in the OP?

 

[Jaimas]

Can I link this in the OP?

By all means.

 

[LN 910]

By all means.

Done and done.

 

[Jub-Jub]

Imagine being such a cuck that you let your wife steal all of your hard earned oppression points and play victim. Also Wendig cow crossover.

Thousands of accounts?? So surely you can provide one iota of proof to your claims? Oh, of course not.
https://archive.fo/8ypBz
https://archive.fo/8GTpc
https://archive.fo/Tbr2q

 

[Jaimas]

Imagine being such a cuck that you let your wife steal all of your hard earned oppression points and play victim. Also Wendig cow crossover.
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Thousands of accounts?? So surely you can provide one iota of proof to your claims? Oh, of course not.
https://archive.fo/8ypBz
https://archive.fo/8GTpc
https://archive.fo/Tbr2q

Anne Wheaton being the one who reported the Navy Seal Copypasta to the Internet Police.

 

[Ghostse]

Anne Wheaton being the one who reported the Navy Seal Copypasta to the Internet Police.

Hello FBI Trafficking Hotline? Yes my name is Anne Wheaton, and I have it on good authority there are teens in my neighborhood who are looking for sex with older men! IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD! Hello? Hello?

 

[Jaimas]

On Felicia Day and Terrible Writing:
So a little more context about Felicia Day, and her skills as an actress.

One of the fascinating parts of Day is that if it weren't for people trying to frame her as the second coming of spaghetti Jesus, and if she didn't have a long and glorious history of sperging out hard on the tubernets, she honestly wouldn't even warrant a thread here. Honestly, I'm glad she shares this one with Wil, because while she absolutely qualifies as a lolcow, she's a comparatively minor one.

But good god, can she generate spontaneous shitstorms. So let's cover that shit now.
Do you all remember how I said how her actual lolcowdom is almost secondary to the orbiting rings of Lolcowdom that swirls around her?

One of the biggest quirks with Felicia Day, amazingly, is not even her fucking fault. I'm dead serious. I'm not sure what you would even call this Lolcow phenomenon, but it's not ultimately that dissimilar from what happened with the Entersphere subforum, where Mr. Enter's own Lolcow status was comparatively mid-tier, but he was constantly surrounded by bigger Lolcows who would happily go off and self-destruct in order to defend him.

In Felicia Day's case, this takes the form of the subculture surrounding her.

Looking her up in the search engine of your choice will yield fucking countless articles about how she is the greatest contribution to nerd culture in the history of human endeavor, ranging from sites that for all intents and purposes shouldn't have any reason to even cover her to social justice blogs. She is fucking deified by the left's premiere culture warriors, and while she herself only laconically participates in this, the same cannot be said of pretty much every single development studio she works with. Hell, looking up criticism of her can take a fucking page or two before you even find a result, due to how frontloaded her search results are. Because of this deification, when Felicia Day is added to a project, the people adding her almost never use her correctly.

Like any actor or actress, Felicia day works well when backed with good writing and in a role she works well with.

Day is by no means a bad actress - just hilariously over-promoted. She can be absolutely fantastic when she has a role she works with and has enough wiggle room to play with it and has the writing chops to back her up. To see her at her best, fire up Mystery Science Theatre 3000's new season, where she is, for all intents and purposes, in her element, and you can tell that as a fan of the earlier seasons, she's trying her fucking hardest to be the successor to Pearl. However, if not backed by decent writing and if placed in the wrong role, she becomes absolutely fucking insufferable, and that's a big reason she's so loathed online (on top of the culture warrior bullshit, obviously).

Fact is, a lot of people want Day on their projects just because she's a status symbol to them. I'm willing to bet anything that this keeps happening because a lot of Social Justice-types grew up watching stuff she was pretty good in, like Buffy. Unfortunately, now that they're writing for her, and because many of the writers doing so are zero-talent hacks, you are increasingly seeing roles given to her that look and read like shitty fan-fiction, in which, no matter the universe the work takes place in, if Felicia Day is in it, odds are increasingly high that the other characters will suddenly become incompetent morons so she can be better than all of them, and show how amazing and clever and wonderful she is, eclipsing the competence of all other characters in the work.

You can tell the difference between a role she was chosen for due to her ability to properly do that role and a role she was chosen for as a status symbol or literal living virtue signal fucking immediately. In the case of a role she's actually been picked for her talents on, she's engaged, she comes across as quirky, fun, and yes - flawed. In the case of characters she was chosen to portray for a virtue signal or because OMG, FELICIA DAY, her role is, at best, fucking insufferable, if not an outright Mary Sue.

In the former, she plays a character.
In the latter, she's there so the writers and devs can intellectually masturbate over her.
This is another reason her work on MST3K is such a goddamn outlier.

Easily the most egregious (and hilarious) example of this in the field is her role as Charlie in Supernatural. While Day does a perfectly serviceable (if unspectacular) job with the role, the character is simply terribly fucking written. Because of this, the show routinely goes to fucking ridiculous degrees to portray her character as hyper-competent and amazing at everything, and to reference other stuff Day's been involved in. In one episode of Supernatural, taking place at a Renaissance Faire, you can actually see a bunch of people in the background playing the Dragon Age 2 Mark of the Assassin DLC, where Day's character, Tallis, is a centerpiece.

For the uninitiated, general consensus amongst Dragon Age fans is that is that this character is one of the worst-written things in the entire series, and that's saying a lot.

Of course, when you have someone like this, who keeps being given these dipshit roles that are written like absolute trash, but is also ridiculously over-promoted, they're going to eventually face some blastback from the greater internet, and Day's no exception to this - but as shown in my earlier post, anyone who criticizes her will face intense blastback.

 

[Archie_Kimkicker]

And how many poor twitter troons were "denied audience and income" and killed themselves because Anne Wheaton used the block list, and did she res them when she unblocked them?

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

Imagine being such a cuck that you let your wife steal all of your hard earned oppression points and play victim.

Actually it sounds like she's trying to make excuses for Wee Willy's blocklist that he got in trouble with the Trans Crusader Brigade over.

Are we sure Anne Wheaton actually exists and isn't just Wee Willy's fake online girlfriend?

 

[Ghostse]

fire up Mystery Science Theatre 3000's new season, where she is, for all intents and purposes, in her element

Millenial Science Theater 3K is complete shit, so, agreed - she's very much in her element there.

 

[Jaimas]

Millenial Science Theater 3K is complete shit, so, agreed - she's very much in her element there.

I'll take a thousand of that over her other appearances, thanks.

 

[NQ 952]

Millenial Science Theater 3K is complete shit, so, agreed - she's very much in her element there.

Still better than anything Wil Wheaton has done

 

[CWCissey]

Still better than anything Wil Wheaton has done

Even Stand By Me?

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

I started watching Supernatural a bit ago. Got to the episode that introduces Felicia Day's character and it's just... painful. Not only is she immediately shilled as perfect and special and wonderful by all of the characters both good and evil, virtually all of her dialog is pure "Teehee I'm such a nerd!" cringe-pandering. The whole season is kind of crap but it's like her appearance is the black hole dragging it all down into the gravity well of her lack of talent and pathetic 'Queen of the Geeks' schtick.

 

[Goodbye Horses]

I started watching Supernatural a bit ago. Got to the episode that introduces Felicia Day's character and it's just... painful. Not only is she immediately shilled as perfect and special and wonderful by all of the characters both good and evil, virtually all of her dialog is pure "Teehee I'm such a nerd!" cringe-pandering. The whole season is kind of crap but it's like her appearance is the black hole dragging it all down into the gravity well of her lack of talent and pathetic 'Queen of the Geeks' schtick.

She eventually gets beaten to death, which is kind of cathartic.

 

[Leibowitz]

Oh, they could bring back the character. They just need to replace the actor. Imagine Wesley Crusher, now played by the biggest Chad in Hollywood. A 7 foot tall muscle man with a hairy chest who looks like 1980s Arnold Schwarzenegger with a 5 o'clock shadow and has a voice like Barry white. Every time he appears on screen he always a cigar in his mouth and a hot alien babe on each arm.

I'm about a month late to this convo, but you may recall Riker does briefly replace Wesley with Chad Crusher when he gets the power of the Q. If only it had lasted longer than 30 seconds.

 

[QU 734]

She eventually gets beaten to death, which is kind of cathartic.

She shows up again from an alternate reality. Same character, only slightly more obnoxious due to existential whining about how she's not the girl they knew.

I'm hoping for an even more horrible death this time around.

 

[Jaimas]

She shows up again from an alternate reality. Same character, only slightly more obnoxious due to existential whining about how she's not the girl they knew.

I'm hoping for an even more horrible death this time around.

They brought her back because Tumblr slit their wrists over the loss of "best character." Don't bet on her eating it.

 

[polonium]

If only it had lasted longer than 30 seconds

Bet that's not the first time someone's said that about Wil Wheaton