Zoosadist Joshua Hoffman / Kero the Wolf / Radiance / Hakan Yote / BestYotie / KeroYamimora / Yami the Wolf

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Either that or they've caught the dogfuckingitis and desperately want to indulge their fetish instead of admitting its harmful.

Zoosadists are known to infect humans and convert them into soulless abominations like themselves. They're similar to werewolves in that retrospect.

 

[Vertebraille]

That's a very good point. I think you're never going to get 100% of furries on board with shunning the freaks but, if I'm being honest, they should shun the people who defend them too. Just based off what I've seen while looking into this shit, the majority of furries seem to be disgusted by what's happening and they should use that majority to create a 0 tolerance policy. Because, like you said, a lot of furries come to the fandom for acceptance. I think a lot of them are awkward and shy in real life and this is how they express themselves. Therefore, I think making it clear that the furry fandom is NOT a safe space for illegal activity and showing them that this acceptance is conditional will (hopefully) push out these degenerates and prevent more from coming in in the future.

Personally I've been going around to every artist/dealer I know and urging them to never sell to any of these disgusting people and to make sure to outright REFUSE SERVICE to people they recognize in the leaks.

To be fair I don't know a TON of them but I'm doing what I can think of to try to make them as uncomfortable as possible in the fandom and if they can't get their fucking dicky art then maybe it'll make a difference.

 

[XIIIth_A]

I think you're never going to get 100% of furries on board with shunning the freaks[...]

[...]push out these degenerates and prevent more from coming in in the future.

The furry fandom has failed to provide any sort of policing within its communities, the corruption has spread beneath the nose like a foul smell they have all gotten used to, and thusly deny its existence because they have gotten used to it.

Most communities police themselves, whether people want to believe the idea that they do or not. The people that don't join in are the most vulnerable because they are the vector for corruption, they are protected by the people that feel the responsibility to vet potential prospects into the community and push out any rogue element. But, when it comes to policing a community, the overriding principle of unadulterated acceptance come sunshine or rain inevitably leads to this outcome of absolute denial that its constituents could possibly do any wrong, these sick fucks use that to their advantage, only their insipid stupidity and moronic management of their private information has lead to these kinds of expose.

I pose you the question, what of the people that use this cover to their utmost advantage?

Anyone that might have had the faculties to vet prospects into the fandom and protect its principles is at a loss, because there are no principles to uphold in policing the fandom. The disgusted majority has turned its head away in denial for far too long that the fandom has become inherently degenerate.

 

[Cloudypotato]

The furry fandom has failed to provide any sort of policing within its communities, the corruption has spread beneath the nose like a foul smell they have all gotten used to, and thusly deny its existence because they have gotten used to it.

Most communities police themselves, whether people want to believe the idea that they do or not. The people that don't join in are the most vulnerable because they are the vector for corruption, they are protected by the people that feel the responsibility to vet potential prospects into the community and push out any rogue element. But, when it comes to policing a community, the overriding principle of unadulterated acceptance come sunshine or rain inevitably leads to this outcome of absolute denial that its constituents could possibly do any wrong, these sick fucks use that to their advantage, only their insipid stupidity and moronic management of their private information has lead to these kinds of expose.

I pose you the question, what of the people that use this cover to their utmost advantage?

Anyone that might have had the faculties to vet prospects into the fandom and protect its principles is at a loss, because there are no principles to uphold in policing the fandom. The disgusted majority has turned its head away in denial for far too long that the fandom has become inherently degenerate.

I can tell you for a fact the Las Vegas furry community needs to work more on its policing and keeping the community safe, instead of harboring and covering for pedos under the argument of *it's drama don't talk about it*

 

[TheWatchfulFurfag]

That's a very good point. I think you're never going to get 100% of furries on board with shunning the freaks but, if I'm being honest, they should shun the people who defend them too. Just based off what I've seen while looking into this shit, the majority of furries seem to be disgusted by what's happening and they should use that majority to create a 0 tolerance policy. Because, like you said, a lot of furries come to the fandom for acceptance. I think a lot of them are awkward and shy in real life and this is how they express themselves. Therefore, I think making it clear that the furry fandom is NOT a safe space for illegal activity and showing them that this acceptance is conditional will (hopefully) push out these degenerates and prevent more from coming in in the future.

If you want to force change, this is how you do it:

1. Venues and charities have to step in

This one can be simple enough, If a venue says "No zoo art" or no paedophiles, then a con has little choice, especially if alot of goodwill has been built up over the years. Charities too, especially as cons go for animal welfare charities. Charities are good PR for the fandom, and the prospect of a charity pulling out over tacit approval of paedophiles or animal abusers/animal abuse materials will force their hand.

A way to get this can be to alert them to it, but there's an altogether more effective albeit, louder method which furries and venues will dread and WILL respond to, which is:

2. Get media involved

Right now the fandom has families attending cons with children buying and purchasing furry art and participating in the fandom. This can be wrecked by a single story from a half reputable source of a fandom with rampant sexual predators. And the beautiful part is this is a very easy story to sell bloggers and the media.

It's not a question of if, a story WILL force action. A scandal will force cons to adopt new rules and bar persons and materials lest they find themselves dropped by sponsors, charities and venues. And parents will be more reluctant to let their kids go to cons because of untrammelled sexual predators. What I think the fandom needs is another PR disaster, to force the con's hands, which is in many ways, the center of the fandom culture.

 

[Kamov Ka-52]

The furry fandom has failed to provide any sort of policing within its communities, the corruption has spread beneath the nose like a foul smell they have all gotten used to, and thusly deny its existence because they have gotten used to it.

Most communities police themselves, whether people want to believe the idea that they do or not. The people that don't join in are the most vulnerable because they are the vector for corruption, they are protected by the people that feel the responsibility to vet potential prospects into the community and push out any rogue element. But, when it comes to policing a community, the overriding principle of unadulterated acceptance come sunshine or rain inevitably leads to this outcome of absolute denial that its constituents could possibly do any wrong, these sick fucks use that to their advantage, only their insipid stupidity and moronic management of their private information has lead to these kinds of expose.

I pose you the question, what of the people that use this cover to their utmost advantage?

Anyone that might have had the faculties to vet prospects into the fandom and protect its principles is at a loss, because there are no principles to uphold in policing the fandom. The disgusted majority has turned its head away in denial for far too long that the fandom has become inherently degenerate.

This is a fundamentally flawed assessment. The furry fandom was originally built to be counter-cultural, sexual, and "inclusive" in nature. It was inherently degenerate from the get go, the current state of affairs is just that degeneracy taken to its terminus.

 

[Vertebraille]

The furry fandom has failed to provide any sort of policing within its communities, the corruption has spread beneath the nose like a foul smell they have all gotten used to, and thusly deny its existence because they have gotten used to it.

Most communities police themselves, whether people want to believe the idea that they do or not. The people that don't join in are the most vulnerable because they are the vector for corruption, they are protected by the people that feel the responsibility to vet potential prospects into the community and push out any rogue element. But, when it comes to policing a community, the overriding principle of unadulterated acceptance come sunshine or rain inevitably leads to this outcome of absolute denial that its constituents could possibly do any wrong, these sick fucks use that to their advantage, only their insipid stupidity and moronic management of their private information has lead to these kinds of expose.

I pose you the question, what of the people that use this cover to their utmost advantage?

Anyone that might have had the faculties to vet prospects into the fandom and protect its principles is at a loss, because there are no principles to uphold in policing the fandom. The disgusted majority has turned its head away in denial for far too long that the fandom has become inherently degenerate.

The problem with this is the furry community is so splintered and nebulous that it's too hard to corral by any small group. Again, they're not brought together by an IP or any one person (like Bronies, Weebs, etc) so there's nothing unifying enough to make sure they all are exposed to particular information, good or bad. Remember the burned furs?

Edit: For example, if one furry talks about a popular furry artist to a decent size group of furries, odds are at least a couple of them won't know who you're talking about because they run in their own circles within the fandom.

Although I second the notion that bringing in the con staff and the media to start showing and speaking out against the super degenerate shit will make it easier to keep the worst shit in check and also make it more likely for people to blow the whistle when people see/hear it going on.

 

[Umaru Doma]

Dog kidneys are kind of in an awkward position inside the body. Unlike our own (close to the back, under the ribs), a dogs kidneys are more towards the middle of the body, if that makes sense. The likelihood of Kero damaging the kidneys physically is slim, unless he was just cranking down and really beating the shit out of him.

The more likely scenario is that the dog received a UTI through oral, manual, or anal contact with Kero that went untreated and had progressed into a kidney infection.

Having anal sex with the dog may also be a contributing factor if there was damage to the intestines or prostate. An enlarged prostate (possibly damaged by the sexual abuse) can block the flow of urine, which will lead to kidney issues and eventually failure.

Basically, any form of obstruction or introduction of bacteria to a urinary tract can lead to kidney issues, and kidney issues when left untreated in dogs tend to kill quickly and painfully.

This is a lot more information than I ever really wanted or expected to get on kiwifarms about dog kidneys but it's by far the best answer. so thank you m8

 

[H.P. Lovecraft]

I heard he's under investigation, was I mislead?

 

[mildly_miffed_69]

@KaiTheFoxy do these updates qualify as a new "trial of friendship"? lol

 

[The Darkness Within]

I saw that a survey was linked, here is the group that apparently shows up at Anthrocon very year according to their page

https://furscience.com/research-findings/appendix-1-previous-research/anthrocon-2017-summary/( Archive https://archive.fo/ZGX4J )

And their home page

https://furscience.com/

 

[mildly_miffed_69]

I saw that a survey was linked, here is the group that apparently shows up at Anthrocon very year according to their page

https://furscience.com/research-findings/appendix-1-previous-research/anthrocon-2017-summary/( Archive https://archive.fo/ZGX4J )

And their home page

https://furscience.com/

quick :powerlevel:: i spoke to a person close to the individuals that conduct this survey, and i'd take these results with a grain of salt. supposedly, it's a blind study with the goal of seeing if there's a causal link that can be identified through the correlation between "Time Spent Within Furry Fandom" and "Current Sexual Identity".

basically, they really want to see if bisexuality increases over time as you're exposed to more sexual minorities. the rest of the data is junk, which should explain why the handling and display of the rest of their data is so terrible.

 

[billydero]

@KaiTheFoxy do these updates qualify as a new "trial of friendship"? lol

He either bailed out on us or, he’s hangin’ with his furfag friends and laughing this all off and telling them “KF just doesn’t get furry!”

.... yeah, my expectations for the little twink are kinda low.

And so far as the Furscience survey goes - it’s staffed by furries that, so I am told, get comped rooms and meals at Anthrocon. I think their objectivity is a bit suspect.

 

[HolyBeast]

Bit of a :powerlevel: but I've dabbled in the community since I was young ( like 11 or so, though all I gave a fuck about was the cool SFW art because I liked dogs ) and I lurk on Twitter and follow furry accounts, though I hate associating with the ""community"". I've had my toes dipped in this cesspool for awhile.

Like someone said before me, furries are super broad. They're all over the world with just one thing in common: anthro animals. It's super hard to rein everyone in and get the degenerates in the fandom to shower and stop jerking it to dog rape. Believe me, some people are trying pretty hard and are met with accusations of witch hunting and bullying, or are just straight up harassed.

The rule of thumb in the community tends to be that if you own a cute fursuit, make NSFW murr videos/photos, or draw that hot spicy yiff, you're untouchable. Basically, if you can get people's rocks off or entertain them, you could essentially do as you want and you'll be defended and hailed.

I'd also point out that among uh, people that fuck in their fursuits and are more involved in the sex side of the fandom are more accepting of shit like this in my experience. Not all of them, but enough that's an issue. Feral NSFW art, zoo, shota/loli, etc. Example:

Fun fact about these folks: CennyAD has sex with and is friends with a furry named Stormy who raped his mom's dog a few years back. Brood Mama had the Zeta symbol in her Twitter bio for awhile and thinks fucking animals is okay ("as long as you're not hurting them", essentially), and the Saberthot chick was harassing her fursuit paw maker for a refund/return despite giving handjobs in them (and making them unresellable basically) and tried to guilt them by reposting their NSFW pics off their AD. Not the best group to be defending zoophiles.

While some furries do try hard to cut down predatory behavior down, there's always that group of popular degenerates that defends it and rallies their followers into supporting it and makes it harder for everyone.

TL;DR some good furries are putting in the work and self-interest fucks keep tearing it down again.

 

[mildly_miffed_69]

Like someone said before me, furries are super broad. They're all over the world with just one thing in common: anthro animals. It's super hard to rein everyone in and get the degenerates in the fandom to shower and stop jerking it to dog rape. Believe me, some people are trying pretty hard and are met with accusations of witch hunting and bullying, or are just straight up harassed.

The rule of thumb in the community tends to be that if you own a cute fursuit, make NSFW murr videos/photos, or draw that hot spicy yiff, you're untouchable. Basically, if you can get people's rocks off or entertain them, you could essentially do as you want and you'll be defended and hailed.

i feel like these bits are common knowledge by now. not very new information

 

[HolyBeast]

i feel like these bits are common knowledge by now. not very new information

Probably, sorry about that. Just kinda adding in what I can offer.

I guess I’m just more so trying to hammer in people really are trying to shovel the shit out, but people just kind of keep pushing it back in, which genuinely sucks.

Will edit if it gets distracting.

 

[Vertebraille]

quick :powerlevel:: i spoke to a person close to the individuals that conduct this survey, and i'd take these results with a grain of salt. supposedly, it's a blind study with the goal of seeing if there's a causal link that can be identified through the correlation between "Time Spent Within Furry Fandom" and "Current Sexual Identity".

basically, they really want to see if bisexuality increases over time as you're exposed to more sexual minorities. the rest of the data is junk, which should explain why the handling and display of the rest of their data is so terrible.

Makes sense, I also wonder about their sample size since the entire attendance of AC isn't even that good of a sample size (~8000) and I've gone the last 3 years and never heard of these people.

Edit: I guess technically powerlevel but good luck finding me at a con of 8k attendance, fools

 

[mildly_miffed_69]

Makes sense, I also wonder about their sample size since the entire attendance of AC isn't even that good of a sample size (~8000) and I've gone the last 3 years and never heard of these people.

the sample size isn't too much of a problem, but their interpretation of the data is. they are extrapolating the contents of convention surveys to apply to the whole of the furry fandom. as much as i wish it were that easy, the furthest you could stretch the data is having it describe "Anthrocon Visitors", or whatever convention in which they're conducting the survey. most furries don't attend conventions.

most people, furries and actual people alike, don't understand how to interpret data like this. you can't blame them... it's tricky.
so "furry scientists" (read: rejects in their field) can put out garbage data and have it eaten up just fine.

another sad attempt to become "furry popular", i guess. add it to the pile.


so, just to keep it relevant for this topic, wherever you see citations for "the percentage of zoophiles in the furry fandom" and see their study as the source? it's pretty much worthless.

 

[Vertebraille]

the sample size isn't too much of a problem, but their interpretation of the data is. they are extrapolating the contents of an convention surveys to apply to the whole of the furry fandom. as much as i wish it were that easy, the furthest you could stretch the data is having it describe "Anthrocon Visitors", or whatever convention in which they're conducting the survey. most furries don't attend conventions.

most people, furries and actual people alike, don't understand how to interpret data like this. you can't blame them... it's tricky.
so "furry scientists" (read: rejects in their field) can put out garbage data and have it eaten up just fine.

another sad attempt to become "furry popular", i guess. add it to the pile.


so, just to keep it relevant for this topic, wherever you see citations for "the percentage of zoophiles in the furry fandom" and see their study as the source? it's pretty much worthless.

That's a fair point, yeah most furries don't attend cons and I would imagine the worst furries DEFINITELY don't if only because they're just so broken as a person.

 

[Danger Mouse]