Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

Carl is a fucking moron who doesn't understand a single thing about why identity politics is so popular among the rich. He doesn't understand its history, how post-modernism got perverted and how cultural marxisim doesn't actually exist and its a fucking conspiracy theory on par with da joos. He is really, really fucking stupid. Identity politics, since ever, has been used to divide the poorer classes so they never unite against the rich, capitalist elites. Communism is a corpse being puppeteered by the elite, dangling it in front of rich, middle-class kids to pit them against the poor who want nothing to do with it. 'Cultural Marxisim' is just 60 years of post-modernism clinging on to life because it makes colleges and universities too much money, they see their students as customers, not as an educational institution and seek to drain as much money out of the federal government by charging outrages prices for useless degrees. Post-Modernism itself is purely a capitalistic process underneath it all.

Same with intersectionality and LGBTBBQ+. Why are trans kids so popular? Degeneracy? No. Its that pediatric centers, psychatrists, psycologists, cosmetic surgeons and big pharma can rake in MASSIVE amounts of money. It has 0 to do with indoctrination. Of course, there are a ton of progtards who push this agenda simply for the dopamine rush of virtue signaling, all to the benefit of the wealthy. The problem is when they start to buy their own bullshit and 'get woke and go broke'. Those that realize identity politics for what it is, a tool of control, can make incredible amounts of money manipulating the progtards and popular culture that think this.

Make no mistake. Communism is fucking dead as dogshit and remains a 0 risk factor. The dogma being pushed now is purely capitalistic, an easy way of manipulating fucking idiots to keep the elites in power and drain more money from the populace. As well as to hang on to terrible dogma because dismantling it would cost many people their careers and tons of money.

Anyone who thinks internet communists are any sort of threat is a fucking joke. The second that spic democratic congresswoman gets to Washington, she'll either sell out or they'll run a fucking train on her so hard she'll be made irrelevant. Look at Bernie Sanders. He took the fucking check and stabbed his followers in the back. Because if he didn't, the DNC would completely fuck him. You think some dumb cunt commie is going to do anything to the massive amounts of free money floating around? Ha. She's an idiot, easy to manipulate. She will end up being the pawn of the DNC, using her as a poster-girl to drive up voter numbers of young, hispanic voters and shove her ideology in the toilet.

You couldn't be more off and you're making Sargon look smart. The idea that the wealthy conspire to subjugate the poor today is a conspiracy theory akin to thejoos, except unlike your example, almost exactly the same. People are far more motivated by respect and power over their peers. Money is just one means of that. The dirty secret is is that there is almost never one grand master plan. It's usually--not always, but usually-people who have the same agenda seeking each other out and working to those ends. The effect money has on issues like this is much smaller than you think. You think everyone else is motivated by greed except you?

You tip your hand, of course, by complaining this is all capitalism. You're obviously a dirty red, probably a teenager or undermployed given the demographic of socialist types.

Cultural Marxism is perhaps a stupid term but it simply means applying Marxist rhetoric and/or theory to group identity. You're basically describing the same thing, except in regards to the evil rich people--which we call Marxism. You're not too different from them. If anything doesn't exist, it's "post-modernism," and everyone gets a sort of sense of what is being talked about there anyway even if there's no real definition of it. The rich are working so the poor "don't unite," oh please, that's college student talk. Do you also talk about "eating the rich?" The rich conspire against you in exactly the same way you conspire against people in relative poverty: they don't. There's no secret Illuminati cabal planning things out.

And the left doesn't talk about class identity quite as much as they concentrate on identity groups and how they define relative power between them. Which is what people refer to as "cultural Marxism," same rhetoric, different package.

 

[verissimus]

Amazing reply Carl had to Carl of Dopamine.

Imagine being so obsessed with someone online that you create an account based on him and follow everything he does.

Yeah like Shitrat with his account of you who's working with your pet German attack dog Kraut or better yet you who if I'm not mistaken intentionally tried taking the account BoomerGroomer on stream.me which Jim was considering on taking? The projecting is really strong with him isn't it?

 

[Blagher]

Vee is really fucking pathetic. When you see your friend trying to be super serial about shit, then go off on petty internet wars, you stop supporting them with tough love. But nope, as Sargon gets more and more embarrassing, Vee deep throats Sargoy even harder.

I heard it on the Killstream, but Vee is someone you want to like, but just can't. He's so fucking pathetic. Its just sad at this point, being a mouthpiece for Sargon and participating in his stupid OPs. Does he really like the Gimp role that much? I'm mean, he's a bitch. I wouldn't even bother with the man. He can't think or do anything for himself. He knows the Jim vs. Sargon thing is a losing battle because Sargon has far more to lose than Jim does, yet he still participates.

And then he tries to defend the Christy Winters debacle where they just blow him the fuck out. Its pathetic.

Vee has a PhD or something right? It really makes you wonder what is in it for vee to continually debase himself like this on a near weekly basis. Found this gem in my recommended:

Highlights include:
Accusing Kristi of being "autistic" because she cites a poll or study to back up every argument she posed
Saying that Sargon doesn't need to prove any of his broad statements because he's stating obvious truths (what?)
And even if what Sargon is claiming isn't true, it's unfair to ask him to give proof in the middle of a conversation

I wonder if how deep vee is and if he understands how retarded the last two claims are.

Anyone who thinks internet communists are any sort of threat is a fucking joke. The second that spic democratic congresswoman gets to Washington, she'll either sell out or they'll run a fucking train on her so hard she'll be made irrelevant. Look at Bernie Sanders. He took the fucking check and stabbed his followers in the back. Because if he didn't, the DNC would completely fuck him. You think some dumb cunt commie is going to do anything to the massive amounts of free money floating around? Ha. She's an idiot, easy to manipulate. She will end up being the pawn of the DNC, using her as a poster-girl to drive up voter numbers of

The US is bizarre in this aspect. Polls have indicated that most people are perfectly fine with socialist policies when you don't call it socialism (especially when it's related to health care). I partially blame that on the older generation still being triggered by the cold war.

I also think you underestimate how deeply people drink the Kool aid. You could have said the exact same thing about Obama and he turned out to be president.

Also, Bernie didn't fully sell out, which is why you have the Hillary camp so angry at him. One specific thing he never did was give away his mailing list to Hillary so she could shill to them. You can argue he needed up playing ball by a combination of being threatened by the dnc and believing trump to be a bigger threat, there were certainly a lot of Bernie supporters that ended up pushing for Hillary even though they hated her guys.

 

[Berrakh]

https://youtu.be/Ls9xU8o0-Lc

Kristi and Kevin doing a debrief on Sargons self destruction. Basically she says that they knew he was desperate and planned to use his tactics against him. Kinda makes it more hilarious that he and vee bitched about it being unfair to poor sargon

Watched it. I recommend it. They notice things about sargon’s behavior that to my knowledge nobody else has.

 

[Secret Asshole]

You couldn't be more off and you're making Sargon look smart. The idea that the wealthy conspire to subjugate the poor today is a conspiracy theory akin to thejoos, except unlike your example, almost exactly the same. People are far more motivated by respect and power over their peers. Money is just one means of that. The dirty secret is is that there is almost never one grand master plan. It's usually--not always, but usually-people who have the same agenda seeking each other out and working to those ends. The effect money has on issues like this is much smaller than you think. You think everyone else is motivated by greed except you?

You tip your hand, of course, by complaining this is all capitalism. You're obviously a dirty red, probably a teenager or undermployed given the demographic of socialist types.

Cultural Marxism is perhaps a stupid term but it simply means applying Marxist rhetoric and/or theory to group identity. You're basically describing the same thing, except in regards to the evil rich people--which we call Marxism. You're not too different from them. If anything doesn't exist, it's "post-modernism," and everyone gets a sort of sense of what is being talked about there anyway even if there's no real definition of it. The rich are working so the poor "don't unite," oh please, that's college student talk. Do you also talk about "eating the rich?" The rich conspire against you in exactly the same way you conspire against people in relative poverty: they don't. There's no secret Illuminati cabal planning things out.

And the left doesn't talk about class identity quite as much as they concentrate on identity groups and how they define relative power between them. Which is what people refer to as "cultural Marxism," same rhetoric, different package.

Where did I say all capitalism was evil of the worlds tard? I also said communism was a failure and a non-issue so what, you think that I think the world should run on a barter system? Capatalisim is the best system we have, that doesn't mean its not exploitable.

Where did I mention a conspiracy theory?

And you DO know the rich think the United States is a plutocracy thanks to a leaked city bank memo during the 2008 crisis and they feared a French Revolution situation? That they actually went to regulators at the height of the crisis to ask for more regs but then backed off as they realized it wasn't world ending?

Yeah the rich don't fear the poor uniting against them because they've abused them so long lol. That's the biggest crock of shit I have heard. They're terrified of it. Read about the rich fortifying their houses during the 2008 crisis or when they hired the pinkertons in the 1920s to incite violence during people trying to make unions. Or how the rich played early immigrants off of each other to keep them united. Or how they balkanized prisons after Attica so they couldn't unite and the US prison system effectively created the chronic prison gang problem it now has itself. Identity politics has long been a tool.

There's no grand conspiracy fucker, the rich act in their own self interest which just happens to fuck over the poor. They just don't care.

And greed is the largest motivator. Absolutely. We've seen company after company burn itself for short term profits over long term gains.

The left doesn't talk about class identity because the DNC killed democratic populism a long time ago. It is not on their agenda.

You have absolutely no idea as to who I am or what I believe.

 

[No creativity]

it's unfair to ask him to give proof in the middle of a conversation

He's kinda right about that one since it wasn't an actual debate, in which case constantly asking for evidence is kinda autistic. Of course the reason she was doing that was to troll Sargon, who asks for proof all the time when he's arguing with someone. But I'm sure it's fine when he does it.

 

[Buggins]

He's kinda right about that one since it wasn't an actual debate, in which case constantly asking for evidence is kinda autistic.

Well, they asked for proof regarding points Sargon brought up himself, I'd say that's far game.
Failing to provide sources doesn't prove Sargon wrong, but it demonstrates that he didn't come to his conclusions based on facts.
He made up his mind in absence (or ignorance) of the facts, as usual.

 

[MediocreMilt]

Highlights include:
Accusing Kristi of being "autistic" because she cites a poll or study to back up every argument she posed
Saying that Sargon doesn't need to prove any of his broad statements because he's stating obvious truths (what?)
And even if what Sargon is claiming isn't true, it's unfair to ask him to give proof in the middle of a conversation

I wonder if how deep vee is and if he understands how exceptional the last two claims are.

And not the first one? How is having sources to back yourself up "autistic"? Especially since, despite her other faults, Winters has a Doctorate?

 

[Harbinger of Kali Yuga]

Where did I say all capitalism was evil of the worlds tard? I also said communism was a failure and a non-issue so what, you think that I think the world should run on a barter system? Capatalisim is the best system we have, that doesn't mean its not exploitable.

Fair enough, but your rhetoric is distinctly Marxist, and the point is that "cultural maxism" is taking the sort of rhetoric you keep using about "the rich" (as if they're a group with at all a unified agenda) and just applying it to race/identity.

Where did I mention a conspiracy theory?

Let's look a paragraph below.

And you DO know the rich think the United States is a plutocracy thanks to a leaked city bank memo during the 2008 crisis and they feared a French Revolution situation? That they actually went to regulators at the height of the crisis to ask for more regs but then backed off as they realized it wasn't world ending?

I have no idea what you're talking about, but I don't think whatever memo you're talking about is "the rich" so much as "banking executives," and I highly doubt they feared a "french revolution" situation. Maybe I'm way off here, but this sounds like something Cenk Uyger would say offhand.

In any case, this is basically a conspiracy theory.

Yeah the rich don't fear the poor uniting against them because they've abused them so long lol. That's the biggest crock of shit I have heard. They're terrified of it. Read about the rich fortifying their houses during the 2008 crisis or when they hired the pinkertons in the 1920s to incite violence during people trying to make unions. Or how the rich played early immigrants off of each other to keep them united. Or how they balkanized prisons after Attica so they couldn't unite and the US prison system effectively created the chronic prison gang problem it now has itself. Identity politics has long been a tool.

There's no grand conspiracy fucker, the rich act in their own self interest which just happens to fuck over the poor. They just don't care.

Haha, you just talked about the rich working together to hold the man down. That sounds like a grand conspiracy to me. And let's remember that you said "cultural marxism" is a conspiracy theory. How is "cultural marxism" more of a conspiracy theory than what you literally just said?

Look dude, I get it, Feel the Bern and all that jazz. I'm not going to argue history with you, you're not wrong about every fact but your read on what this all means or lacks nuance, for example, I'm pretty sure the rich fortified their houses because recessions bring higher crime, simple as that. In any case, the correct class is "business owners," not necessarily "the rich." Those two groups are not the same.

And greed is the largest motivator. Absolutely. We've seen company after company burn itself for short term profits over long term gains.

We're talking about issues related to social justice, not the running of corporations. Reducing issues about race or trannies to "the corporations arrghh" is kind of dumb, dude. And I'm talking about individual action, not corporation bureaucracy. Furthermore, while many companies have been brought down by short term profits (usually due to shareholders wanting a more immediate return), many, many companies you know of have lost money for many years before turning a profit, including reddit, youtube, twitter, etc. That's probably true of most companies.

The left doesn't talk about class identity because the DNC killed democratic populism a long time ago. It is not on their agenda.

"The left" and the DNC are not equal groups and the social justice groups are still in the process of changing the democratic party, it's not the other way around. Just because Sargon is a retard doesn't mean he's completely wrong about the genesis of some of this shit.

Feel da Bern 2018 tho rite

You have absolutely no idea as to who I am or what I believe.

Get over yourself.

 

[Colonel J]

Is Sargoon's debate with that feminist lady worth watching? How truly BTFO were they?

 

[MediocreMilt]

Fair enough, but your rhetoric is distinctly Marxist, and the point is that "cultural maxism" is taking the sort of rhetoric you keep using about "the rich" (as if they're a group with at all a unified agenda) and just applying it to race/identity.




Let's look a paragraph below.



I have no idea what you're talking about, but I don't think whatever memo you're talking about is "the rich" so much as "banking executives," and I highly doubt they feared a "french revolution" situation. Maybe I'm way off here, but this sounds like something Cenk Uyger would say offhand.

In any case, this is basically a conspiracy theory.



Haha, you just talked about the rich working together to hold the man down. That sounds like a grand conspiracy to me. And let's remember that you said "cultural marxism" is a conspiracy theory. How is "cultural marxism" more of a conspiracy theory than what you literally just said?

Look dude, I get it, Feel the Bern and all that jazz. I'm not going to argue history with you, you're not wrong about every fact but your read on what this all means or lacks nuance, for example, I'm pretty sure the rich fortified their houses because recessions bring higher crime, simple as that. In any case, the correct class is "business owners," not necessarily "the rich." Those two groups are not the same.



We're talking about issues related to social justice, not the running of corporations. Reducing issues about race or trannies to "the corporations arrghh" is kind of dumb, dude. And I'm talking about individual action, not corporation bureaucracy. Furthermore, while many companies have been brought down by short term profits (usually due to shareholders wanting a more immediate return), many, many companies you know of have lost money for many years before turning a profit, including reddit, youtube, twitter, etc. That's probably true of most companies.



"The left" and the DNC are not equal groups and the social justice groups are still in the process of changing the democratic party, it's not the other way around. Just because Sargon is an exceptional individual doesn't mean he's completely wrong about the genesis of some of this shit.

Feel da Bern 2018 tho rite



Get over yourself.

You could have saved a whole world's worth of time by just asking for sources.

@Secret Asshole

 

[lowkey]

Watched it. I recommend it. They notice things about sargon’s behavior that to my knowledge nobody else has.

They mostly stole the jokes and insults from murdoch murdoch video, killstream and jim. There wasn't much original material they flamed with, just one or two original ones.

Still fun though.

 

[Mannlicher]

Can always watch this 20 min Jim recap of Kristi and Kev dunking on Sargoy. It covers the highlights (like m ilk fed gimp).

 

[Blagher]

He's kinda right about that one since it wasn't an actual debate, in which case constantly asking for evidence is kinda autistic. Of course the reason she was doing that was to troll Sargon, who asks for proof all the time when he's arguing with someone. But I'm sure it's fine when he does it.

Yep that's the irony of Vee pointing it out. Sargons best defense is demanding proof for shit that people know has happened because it's an easy stall tactic to slow down a convo and give him a way out of a tight spot. Hilarious that apparently doing it to him is unreasonable, especially for points he's bringing up.

And not the first one? How is having sources to back yourself up "autistic"? Especially since, despite her other faults, Winters has a Doctorate?

My point is that the last two are core parts of sargons debate tactics along with pedantry and buzzwords. It's amazing to me that vee, a humanoid that supposedly gained a college degree, has the blinkers on and thinks it's only OK for sargon to do those things.

The first point made me rage quit the video at first because that's how you're supposed to frame an argument. It's almost like Kristi is/was an actual academic and understands the need for proper citation and uses evidence and not emotion to make her claim.

They mostly stole the jokes and insults from murdoch murdoch video, killstream and jim. There wasn't much original material they flamed with, just one or two original ones.

Still fun though.

They milk it a lot towards the end but what gets me is that at no point in time did they think the vees request was on the level. It's hilarious that big brain sargon may have actually thought he was going to blindside them because he had vee ask.

 

[Berrakh]

They mostly stole the jokes and insults from murdoch murdoch video, killstream and jim. There wasn't much original material they flamed with, just one or two original ones.

Still fun though.

I disagree. They’re long time a-logs and they described his tactics perfectly.

 

[MediocreMilt]

Can always watch this 20 min Jim recap of Kristi and Kev dunking on Sargoy. It covers the highlights (like m ilk fed gimp).

"because I haven't been following it that closely, I'd had other things to do..."
I would have paid money for one of these two to interject with a "Like what?"

 

[instythot]

They mostly stole the jokes and insults from murdoch murdoch video, killstream and jim. There wasn't much original material they flamed with, just one or two original ones.

Still fun though.

The commentary track afterwards is better. Kevin comes out and says "I don't know what any of this stuff means, but 'Sargon needs more dopamine' just pisses him off for some reason. Same with calling him a brainlet"

 

[Goku 1000000 O]

He's kinda right about that one since it wasn't an actual debate, in which case constantly asking for evidence is kinda autistic. Of course the reason she was doing that was to troll Sargon, who asks for proof all the time when he's arguing with someone. But I'm sure it's fine when he does it.

He made a claim that a bunch of Justice Dems won seats in the midterms, and they were there to discuss the midterms. There wasn't a set prompt for the conversation and it was meant to be a pretty general discussion, them asking for proof of the claim is entirely reasonable as discussion could branch off from there regardless of accuracy. His instinct that they were trolling him was correct, but if you're going to get that defensive over something as basic as showing proof for a claim that would take a couple minutes at most to back up then it makes you look far worse than them, trolling or not.

I also find it funny that Sargon refused to play their game, even though it would've been really easy to win, like just play along and think quick on your feet. You've been doing this for almost four years now, how have you not built up the skill set to do that already?

 

[BeanBidan]

I think I'll like Vee when he gets his teeth kicked in and learns to be his own man after said experience.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Get over yourself.

You called me an unemployed, ignorant, red college student who hates capitalism. I'm none of those things.

You could have saved a whole world's worth of time by just asking for sources.

@Secret Asshole

Truth. This is a thread about Sargon though, and we've already shit it up with this talk so I'm going to refrain from the back and forth that will inevitably occur. Its not the thread for it. This is for shitting on a mentally challenged man in an ill fitting suit and a faggot Romanian whore too scared to leave Sargoy's shadow because that's where he gets his money from.