LGBT [Email] The Piercing and Bisexuality

[Cotton Pudding]

New user name - "TomBi"

PS: Thank you Null for sharing this.

 

[Azure]

The more sad part about all of this is, a lot of "trolls" have tried to help Chris, and the answers he's looking for are all in front of him. why his gal-pals disassociated with him, why he's weird and creepy, and some other criticisms he just doesn't get.

 

[Loke]

I would like to point out that Chris corrected himself on bisexuality. He understands that being a 'male tomgirl lesbian of the soul' or whatever isn't the definition.

 

[Lucrid]

So he had been contemplating the taint piercing for a few years already? Does that mean that perhaps he had wanted the taint piercing ever since the start of the Tomgirl Saga?

 

[Segue]

Well, after finding her Facebook page, I thought I might be able to better understand any stresses she may have that projected her anger and misdirect it to me. And frankly, I would like to clear the air on her impressions of me being "weird" and "creepy", a "stalker", and now the "psychotic bag lady look". I want to understand why she feels that way about me, and see if I am able to clear the air with her about that.

I like how even after hearing his supposed gal-pal has absolutely no interest in hearing about him at all for several reasons, he still does not understand why she's creeped out at all and pretends its some misdirected anger. Good lord.

 

[Chrus Chundlur]

I would like to point out that Chris corrected himself on bisexuality. He understands that being a 'male tomgirl lesbian of the soul' or whatever isn't the definition.

I dont think he corrected himself, I think that what he was trying (and failing) to say with:

She is really lucky now, because as a Bisexual, I can pleasure her both ways.

..was that he was refering to Catherine as bisexual, not him.

 

[Loke]

I dont think he corrected himself, I think that what he was trying (and failing) to say with:



..was that he was refering to Catherine as bisexual, not him.

I still give him points for not assuming it means he is of two genders. He understands it's a binary sexuality, which is more than a lot of people do.

 

[Flowers For Sonichu]

I don't think they were weens. Yes warped ideologies and all that, but they weren't doing it purely to make a name for themselves.

It looks like they were trying to teach him a "lesson" but in a disgusting, manipulative sort of way.

 

[timtommy]

It looks like they were trying to teach him a "lesson" but in a disgusting, manipulative sort of way.

That's a strong way of putting it, but it has merit.

FWIW, my personal attitude is this: I don't really judge Chris harshly for things he says to a troll who is pretending to be someone else. For one thing, noone got hurt by it because it wasn't a real person at the other end. For another thing, the troll personas usually try to give Chris every opportunity to make an ass of himself, so he is just moving in a direction he was steered in.

If someone tries to rile Chris up and play with his emotions, I am not going to judge him for being riled up and acting emotionally.

I know a common philosophy is to say that if Chris thought the person was real, he was acting legitimately and can be judged on it. I can't argue against that logically or say that people shouldn't feel that way, but it's just not the gut reaction I have. If this were the real Tiffany, I would be a lot more bothered by it than I am now.

 

[KaiserC]

I would like to clear the air on her impressions of me being "weird" and "creepy", a "stalker" (...) is she married to that shaved head dude or not? She has a cute child

That might be the creepiest thing I've read about Chris (today).

 

[snowflake3114]

I think the big kicker here to me is how Rebeckah assumed Chris was bi from his wording and said he's really grown up a lot. Which then Chris proceeds to fire back vehemently with childish denial as if his livelihood depended on it.

I admit, my jaw dropped when I read that too, but Chris' grammar was slightly fucked up as usual. Such a let down... but never change, Chris.

 

[Holdek]

Something about this little diversion rubbed me the wrong way and I think it's this. You know what it sounds like, give or take a bit of autism? Chris and his disingenuous "Womens' Rights" nonsense. Can't you just admit you were looking for a way to hit Chris where it hurts à la the Father Call?If you were truly concerned about protecting these people, there's better ways to go about it then creating a tissue of manipulative bullshit. As someone else pointed out above, on the off-chance that Chris puts everything together, you've now given him a pretext on which to double-down on his efforts to contact the gal-pals.

Yeah, people should just call trolling for what it is, and what it always has been: manipulating Chris for lulz.


It's annoying when both:

A. people try to to justify trolling as some sort of moral duty, as if it's the proper role of people on the Internet to punish Chris for whatever

and

B. people get morally outraged here about this recent revelation from the secret board. 90% of the sagas that we enjoy were trolls manipulating Chris for lulz. I find arguments like, "Well it was okay to fuck with him when he was jumping around in clown shirts, but not now because he's a mopey tranny," especially simplistic.


Really the only discussion to be had is: is the trolling funny or not? Because otherwise you open the door to getting rid of most of the CWCki, and I don't see many people calling for that on the forums.

 

[snowflake3114]

That might be the creepiest thing I've read about Chris (today).

I want to say its the creepiest thing I've read about Chris ever, but it hits almost as-far-but-not-quite as his "friendship" with Megan or his "relationship" with Kacey. And ho-ly shit, does it hit far.

 

[Drawets Rednaxela]

Chris REALLY dosn't understand bisexuality, does he?

 

[Holdek]

@Krookodile brought this up over PM, but no. I didn't omit the last names 90% of the time on purpose, but I have gone through and removed them now. This is not for censorship, I just don't want them to get google-bombed. Our website has a very high search engine optimization level, and I don't want Tiffany to get Mary-Lee-Walsh'd.

She has her own article on the CWCki.

 

[timtommy]

Yeah, people should just call trolling for what it is, and what it always has been: manipulating Chris for lulz.


It's annoying when both:

A. people try to to justify trolling as some sort of moral duty, as if it's the proper role of people on the Internet to punish Chris for whatever

and

B. people get morally outraged here about this recent revelation from the secret board. 90% of the sagas that we enjoy were trolls manipulating Chris for lulz. I find arguments like, "Well it was okay to fuck with him when he was jumping around in clown shirts, but not now because he's a mopey tranny," especially simplistic.


Really the only discussion to be had is: is the trolling funny or not? Because otherwise you open the door to getting rid of most of the CWCki, and I don't see many people calling for that on the forums.

I think one of the differences for a lot of people is that the trolling glory days were 5 years ago. It makes it a lot easier to look at them in a detached way without passing moral judgments, and say "Well 5 years ago, all this funny stuff happened, and then everyone moved on. Since it is over, I can watch it and laugh."

If it is happening now, some people feel they have confront it a little more directly.

Not how I feel at all. But I think it might be what be what is behind some of the morality fervour.

Also, a lot of morality is justified backwards. You see something, have a gut reaction to it. Either "Chris bad" or "Trolls bad", and then you come up with a full justification for your reaction ex-post.

 

[Holdek]

Oh, he is smart enough to do it... but he doesn't want to do it, either because he's emotionally immature to do so or just because doing it means getting rid of potential China (even if we all know that the probability of one of this "gals" being TRUE and HONEST is between zero and none).
So yeah, I guess he'll keep falling for the very same scheme over and over again (although, at least he learned not to do every stupid things they ask him to do), because he wants China no matter the cost and he won't ever change his ideology of "there MUST be a girl that comes to me, praise me, defend every dumb action I make and let me play with her breasts" instead of actually changing his defects and be a more suitable boyfriend material.

The guy is significantly autistic and has low intelligence, for fuck's sake.

 

[Xarpho]

Yeah, people should just call trolling for what it is, and what it always has been: manipulating Chris for lulz.


It's annoying when both:

A. people try to to justify trolling as some sort of moral duty, as if it's the proper role of people on the Internet to punish Chris for whatever

and

B. people get morally outraged here about this recent revelation from the secret board. 90% of the sagas that we enjoy were trolls manipulating Chris for lulz. I find arguments like, "Well it was okay to fuck with him when he was jumping around in clown shirts, but not now because he's a mopey tranny," especially simplistic.


Really the only discussion to be had is: is the trolling funny or not? Because otherwise you open the door to getting rid of most of the CWCki, and I don't see many people calling for that on the forums.

Well, part of the issue I think was the enforcement of "no trolling" while in reality that was what was going on behind the scenes. In a way, the rest of us were trolled ourselves with this new saga, when we thought it was all Chris' doing and it really wasn't.

 

[Drawets Rednaxela]

I find arguments like, "Well it was okay to fuck with him when he was jumping around in clown shirts, but not now because he's a mopey tranny," especially simplistic.

Amen

 

[Dr.Research]

Assuming he's telling the truth, it took a taint piercing to get Chris to shower regularly. You'd think body grime or social courtesy or Barb would of taken care of that one.