Disaster Twitter bans misgendering and deadnaming in pro-trans move - The troon ride never ends

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/11/23/twitter-misgendering-deadnaming-trans/
Twitter has prohibited misgendering and deadnaming on its platform in an effort to curtail anti-trans abuse.

The social media company has changed its rules to ban the practices and has warned that any user who deliberately targets a trans person in these ways may face permanent suspension.

These offensive techniques—which involve using the wrong gender to refer to a trans person or a trans person’s old name—are often used on Twitter to insult and erase trans people’s identities and right to exist.

In Twitter’s updated terms of service, the company states: “We prohibit targeting individuals with repeated slurs, tropes or other content that intends to dehumanise, degrade or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category.

“This includes targeted misgendering or deadnaming of transgender individuals.”

The move, which was made in late October but only broadly noticed on the platform on Friday (November 23), also involved adding a section in which Twitter acknowledges that LGBT+ people suffer abuse online more than most.

“We recognise that if people experience abuse on Twitter, it can jeopardise their ability to express themselves,” the paragraph begins.

“Research has shown that some groups of people are disproportionately targeted with abuse online.

“This includes; women, people of colour, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex, asexual individuals, marginalised and historically underrepresented communities,” it continues.

“For those who identity [sic] with multiple underrepresented groups, abuse may be more common, more severe in nature and have a higher impact on those targeted.”

The social media giant has also created a new section of its terms of service, called “Consequences,” in which explains the actions it is pledging to take against offenders.

Twitter has promised to permanently suspend any account which either breaks the rules too many times or is “engaging primarily in abusive behaviour.”

Users who are “deemed to have shared a violent threat” will also be banned from the platform, the company has stated.

Many Twitter users have praised the change, which they hope will lead to more abusive accounts being suspended or banned completely.

One tweeted: “nb deadnaming and misgendering are now prohibited on Twitter. which is very good news!”

Another said: “Excellent news everyone: Twitter has finally updated their TOS such that misgendering/deadnaming a trans person is against the site’s rules. Happy hunting.”

“I was skeptical (because it’s twitter) but yeah, the TOS is pretty clear. Repeated misgendering and/or deadnaming is specifically listed. Excellent,” tweeted yet another fan of the policy shift.

However, there was also hesitancy from many who doubted that the changes in Twitter’s terms of service would be enforced when abusive users were reported.

One such user wrote: “Good start. We’ll have to see if reporting is meaningful or the policy enforced.”

Another tweeted: “like they’ll ever enforce it seriously.”

And a different user commented: “apparently twitter updated its rules to specify that targeted deadnaming and misgendering of trans people isnt allowed but im calling it now that they wont enforce this rule.”
Somebody ought to tell Jack that 1984 wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual
 
think about it. why do people deadname? it pisses off trannies and gives ammo for other people that are in slapfights with trannies. basically it just creates a bunch of grief, is probably a source of a few percentage points of reports they receive daily, and pisses off a pool of users and their allies. same thing with misgendering. Let's be honest here, that's why its done in most cases and even in cases where its a genuine effort to inform about "abusive men in dresses", the outcomes the same.

I see it most often to point out that someone is a sex offender, or to make a joke at Bruce Jenners expense.

Since pronouns change and are subjective, it's impossible to enforce and infinitely exploitable. So pronoun enforcement is a stupid, time wasting policy. Twitter mods will have to do a bunch of investigation about a users historical pronoun use. It should be up to users to block people they don't like.

Now, onto "dead names". Unless a legal name change is required, it's the same problem as pronoun enforcement. In Scotland they respect chosen names instead of legal ones. And some incarcerated dude in Scotland got guards to call him Obi Wan Kinobi & Mr. Almighty before Trooning out and becoming Tiffany something. How often can someone edit their bio? How many headlines is this going to generate when people take full advantage of this policy?

"Dead names" being outlawed also makes it impossible to report facts about history or the news. For example"this day __ years ago, Caitlyn Jenner won the Olympic medal for the decathlon" is a false statement, that never happened. The medal was awarded to Bruce Jenner, it's an objective verifiable fact. Aliases of sex offenders can't be shared, even when it's to warn people who are in the area. Journalists use twitter to report things, and certain public information is now not allowed on the format that many people use to get news from journalists. That's worrying from a historical perspective. Right now, China is implementing a social media system to track citizenship points over a lifetime, posting is mandatory. I don't think anything that direct would happen here, by it it shows that social media is a viable tool for controlling how people talk to each other, which in turn controls how they think (at least that was what Orwell argued).

I'm happy for you being unconcerned, but I am not optimistic about the direction things are going.
 
Twitter's policies are becoming unworkable as a global platform. Eventually it will crush itself under its own weight. Twitter protecting certain groups more than others will only lead to more complaints and more actions to quell any ability to do anything on the platform. Twitter cannot extend specific protections that one group asked for without doing it for other groups. A footsball club has @redskins, which violates policy. You could argue that Mormon porn sites and anti-Scientology groups also violate the policy. What does Twitter do in these situations? Does it say "go jump in a lake" to the Mormons and Scientologies while banning people for mocking trannies or insulting the prophet? Where does Twitter step in to stop legal speech that is not actually harmful to anyone?

It wants to be a global platform but it's trying to impose US sensibilities on its users. Eventually the Western woke crowd will be the only users left.
 
From a business standpoint the only relevant question is whether they will gain or lose users as a result of this policy.
I don't think it will result in a huge spike either way, might result in a bunch of sock accounts being flushed, but for a social media firm, it is also important to be mindful of the messages of your users because their commentary can become linked to you and if people see twitter as a place where LGBT in general are open season, then it isnt hard for someone who is LGBT to frame twitter as facilitating harassment.

Twitter's policies are becoming unworkable as a global platform. Eventually it will crush itself under its own weight. Twitter protecting certain groups more than others will only lead to more complaints and more actions to quell any ability to do anything on the platform. Twitter cannot extend specific protections that one group asked for without doing it for other groups.
Twitter will likely die off in the next 10 years because of several other issues, and whether it has policies in place which protect or do not protect trannies from deadnaming won't be the straw that breaks the camel's back or saves it from dehydration. Twitter has stagnant growth and just tossing problem users, which is what people who misgender and deadname typically are, doesn't represent a significant accommodation to those groups. Its just taking out the trash.

A footsball club has @redskins, which violates policy. You could argue that Mormon porn sites and anti-Scientology groups also violate the policy. What does Twitter do in these situations? Does it say "go jump in a lake" to the Mormons and Scientologies while banning people for mocking trannies or insulting the prophet? Where does Twitter step in to stop legal speech that is not actually harmful to anyone?
They step in wherever they want to, they're a private company that did what private companies do, they caved to pressure on something where there really isn't a good reason, other than to support free and open dialog by protecting people who give their staff minor headaches.

Now, onto "dead names". Unless a legal name change is required, it's the same problem as pronoun enforcement. In Scotland they respect chosen names instead of legal ones. And some incarcerated dude in Scotland got guards to call him Obi Wan Kinobi & Mr. Almighty before Trooning out and becoming Tiffany something. How often can someone edit their bio? How many headlines is this going to generate when people take full advantage of this policy?

"Dead names" being outlawed also makes it impossible to report facts about history or the news. For example"this day __ years ago, Caitlyn Jenner won the Olympic medal for the decathlon" is a false statement, that never happened. The medal was awarded to Bruce Jenner, it's an objective verifiable fact. Aliases of sex offenders can't be shared, even when it's to warn people who are in the area. Journalists use twitter to report things, and certain public information is now not allowed on the format that many people use to get news from journalists. That's worrying from a historical perspective. Right now, China is implementing a social media system to track citizenship points over a lifetime, posting is mandatory. I don't think anything that direct would happen here, by it it shows that social media is a viable tool for controlling how people talk to each other, which in turn controls how they think (at least that was what Orwell argued).
Every time I've seen a deadname posted on twitter its been to piss a tranny off. Hell, I've done it numerous times.
 
Right now, China is implementing a social media system to track citizenship points over a lifetime, posting is mandatory. I don't think anything that direct would happen here, by it it shows that social media is a viable tool for controlling how people talk to each other, which in turn controls how they think (at least that was what Orwell argued).

This has received little media attention. For those who don't know what's going on in China, here's a pretty concise article on their social credit system and how things like posting "fake news" online can affect whether you're allowed to book an airline or train ticket.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...king-blacklisted-beijing-points-a8646316.html
 
Every time I've seen a deadname posted on twitter its been to piss a tranny off. Hell, I've done it numerous times.

I suppose it's slightly more high effort to just dox them entirely and directly mail their porno nudes to their friends, family and next door neighbors, but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

Funny thing is that for this to be enforced they have to deadname themselves to twitter defeating the purpose, now Jack is going to have the biggest database of troon dox

This will be fun when twitter goes belly up and is bought for next to nothing by some Russian mafia operation that makes its money with blackmail and porno.
 
This is the kind of bullshit already happening since the announcement.

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The tweet in question.

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The "obviously hateful" account they want Twitter to delete was created in September 2017 and has made a whole 16 tweets in 14 months. It's not influential by any standard.

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This has received little media attention. For those who don't know what's going on in China, here's a pretty concise article on their social credit system and how things like posting "fake news" online can affect whether you're allowed to book an airline or train ticket.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...king-blacklisted-beijing-points-a8646316.html

I can't imagine that creating an underclass of tens of millions of angry, enraged people with nothing to lose and no recreational activities to distract them could possibly have any unforeseen consequences.
 
These offensive techniques—which involve using the wrong gender to refer to a trans person or a trans person’s old name—are often used on Twitter to insult and erase trans people’s identities and right to exist.

Broke: I think, therefore, I am
Woke: I exist only when given recognition by others

Trannies are literally working on a different basic concept of reality.
 
These offensive techniques—which involve using the wrong gender to refer to a trans person or a trans person’s old name—are often used on Twitter to insult and erase trans people’s identities and right to exist.

Can we ever once just not use hyperbolic terminology for everything, internet?
 
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