Disaster Brawl breaks out in courtroom as woman is jailed for killing baby - Is calling this chimping out racist?

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Brawl breaks out in courtroom as woman is jailed for killing baby
By Associated Press and Dailymail.com Reporter 23:59 EST 23 Nov 2018, updated 02:00 EST 24 Nov 2018

A brawl broke out in a packed Milwaukee courtroom Wednesday after a former daycare owner was sentenced in the death of a seven-week-old baby.

The fight erupted Wednesday shortly after 37-year-old Claudette Mitchell was led away in handcuffs after being sentenced to 3.5 years in prison.

Mitchell was charged in the death of Savaiyah Reid, who was fatally injured at her daycare in August 2017.

Originally charged with first-degree reckless homicide, Mitchell pleaded guilty in September to neglecting a child, resulting in death.

This is the moment a brawl breaks out inside a Milwaukee courtroom between about 50 people

The shocking incident happened Wednesday after a former daycare owner was sentenced in the death of a seven-week-old baby

Law enforcement officials are seen intervening during the brawl
In court, Mitchell said she did not cause the baby’s injuries but feels responsible.

She said in a court statement: 'I can't express how sad I am for this tragedy.'

After sentencing, an altercation broke out involving about 50 members of the defendant’s and victim’s families and friends.

Claudette Mitchell (pictured) was led away in handcuffs after being sentenced. Mitchell was charged in the death of Savaiyah Reid, who was fatally injured at her daycare in August 2017
The Milwaukee County Sheriff’s Department says additional deputies and DA investigators were called to restore order.

The department said: 'An emotional homicide case involving the death of a two-month-old child resulted in a post-sentencing altercation between about 50 members of the defendant’s and victim’s families and friends.

'Additional security was in place due to prior contentious hearings, but the defendant’s side did not comply with deputies’ orders to remain in the courtroom while the victim’s family was being escorted out.'

The altercation involved about 50 members of the defendant’s and victim’s families and friends

The Milwaukee County Sheriff’s Department said additional deputies and DA investigators were called to restore order

 

[PoisonedBun]

Would this be a bad time for the age old question of "Where's the dad?". Like employers would even hire these people for low wage jobs if they had to pay full maternity leave everytime they got knocked up. Gotta fix the mentality behind this, but eh, that's actual work.

Other countries do that. America is the only first world country in the world with no paid maternity leave.

And there are plenty of households where both parents have to work to make ends meet.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Something tells me they're going to charge and try the rioters for longer sentences than the killer, and that's just sick.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Unfortunately, poor people often end up having kids due to some circumstances or another. Working poor mothers to death and screwing up their child as a result won’t help anyone.

Yeah, you are right. Let's never hold anyone accountable. They are poor they can't keep it in their pants. Let's just subsidize it and move on. This totally won't result in a situation where we see an increase in unfit mothers who then need more support to keep them from not killing their kids.

I take a very very dim view of child neglect. That is actually the one thing that gets me from zero to white-hot pissed in an instant.

Parents owe it to their kids to give them the best they can. The kids didn't choose to be born, that was their parent's call. If the parents fall flat on their face right out of the gate, they are fucking it up big time and should be ashamed of themselves. If they can't hack it I would rather have family services take the kids. They will be better off there than being raised by someone so incompetent they cannot properly provide for another living being. We don't let dogs be neglected this way but somehow it's ok to do it to your own kids.

It makes me sick.

 

[Y2K Baby]

Something something gender sentencing disparity.

Best part is that she's black.

Something something gender sentencing disparity.

Were it a white woman she probably would have gotten 2 years suspended, claiming "sympathy post-partum depression" or some shit.

>Difference in sentences based on race are around 15%
>Differences in sentences based on sex are around 50%
>Black woman gets 3.5 years for murdering a child.
>Still whine about race.
Holy shit, liberals, lol.

 

[PoisonedBun]

Yeah, you are right. Let's never hold anyone accountable. They are poor they can't keep it in their pants. Let's just subsidize it and move on. This totally won't result in a situation where we see an increase in unfit mothers who then need more support to keep them from not killing their kids.

I take a very very dim view of child neglect. That is actually the one thing that gets me from zero to white-hot pissed in an instant.

Parents owe it to their kids to give them the best they can. The kids didn't choose to be born, that was their parent's call. If the parents fall flat on their face right out of the gate, they are fucking it up big time and should be ashamed of themselves. If they can't hack it I would rather have family services take the kids. They will be better off there than being raised by someone so incompetent they cannot properly provide for another living being. We don't let dogs be neglected this way but somehow it's ok to do it to your own kids.

It makes me sick.

That’s not what I said and you know it. I don’t even entirely disagree with your point, but in this world people make bad decisions and letting them get into an even worse situation won’t change anything. Like, as nice as it would be to take away kids from any unfit parents, it’s realistically not feasible. Child services take time, resources, and man power to run, and it’s hard enough just to get children out of legitimately abusive households, let alone ones that are just poor.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

That’s not what I said and you know it. I don’t even entirely disagree with your point, but in this world people make bad decisions and letting them get into an even worse situation won’t change anything. Like, as nice as it would be to take away kids from any unfit parents, it’s realistically not feasible. Child services take time, resources, and man power to run, and it’s hard enough just to get children out of legitimately abusive households, let alone ones that are just poor.

Neglect is legitmate abuse. Neglected kids do need to be taken away. But we don't because we are too busy pissing money away subsidizing unfit parents with feel-good shit like maternity leave.

 

[PoisonedBun]

Neglect is legitmate abuse. Neglected kids do need to be taken away. But we don't because we are too busy pissing money away subsidizing unfit parents with feel-good shit like maternity leave.

I don’t know how to tell you forcing mothers to go back to work days after something as physically taxing and life threatening as pushing a nine pound human out of their vagina is a little more than just ‘feel good shit’.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

The US has zero maternity leave? That's wrong. Different companies have different policies on it. Why does it only count if it's government mandated?

 

[break these cuffs]

Other countries do that. America is the only first world country in the world with no paid maternity leave.

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And there are plenty of households where both parents have to work to make ends meet.

And the US is the only world superpower.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

I don’t know how to tell you forcing mothers to go back to work days after something as physically taxing and life threatening as pushing a nine pound human out of their vagina is a little more than just ‘feel good shit’.

Nobody is forcing them to go back to work. They have these things called savings accounts where you can put money so if someone cannot work or something else happens you have funds to get you by. You need to have these if you have kids because they are great at making you need extra money for stuff.

Anyways, it's not like having a kid is a surprise. They know it's coming. They made the choice to go through with it. Why then is the financial burden somebody else's responsibility?

 

[kcbbq]

The US has zero maternity leave? That's wrong. Different companies have different policies on it. Why does it only count if it's government mandated?

Apparently it only counts if you are handing out free money for not working.

 

[SofondaCox]

Neglect is legitmate abuse. Neglected kids do need to be taken away. But we don't because we are too busy pissing money away subsidizing unfit parents with feel-good shit like maternity leave.

Just so you're aware, the statistical outcomes for those of us who are raised in the foster care system are abysmal.
It stops the cruelty and neglect in the moment, but the trauma of displacement is a stain that informs the rest of
your life. Free and easy access to birth control, abortion and sterilization is the answer. It is infinitely cheaper and
would reduce suffering immeasurably.

 

[CephalopodEnthusiast]

Nobody is forcing them to go back to work. They have these things called savings accounts where you can put money so if someone cannot work or something else happens you have funds to get you by. You need to have these if you have kids because they are great at making you need extra money for stuff.

Anyways, it's not like having a kid is a surprise. They know it's coming. They made the choice to go through with it. Why then is the financial burden somebody else's responsibility?

If a parent can't afford to raise their child, then they recieve help from different sources, thus leaving the finances to someone else. Then the level of responsibility would change.

Neglect is legitmate abuse. Neglected kids do need to be taken away. But we don't because we are too busy pissing money away subsidizing unfit parents with feel-good shit like maternity leave.

We need maternity leave. You wouldn't want your wife to be forced to go to work the day after she had a baby, would you?

 

[BeanBidan]

The daycare itself has probably the most ghetto trash name

Your dad just went to the grocery store daycare center

 

[Ineedahero]

Nobody is forcing them to go back to work. They have these things called savings accounts where you can put money so if someone cannot work or something else happens you have funds to get you by. You need to have these if you have kids because they are great at making you need extra money for stuff.

Anyways, it's not like having a kid is a surprise. They know it's coming. They made the choice to go through with it. Why then is the financial burden somebody else's responsibility?

Jesus christ. Savings accounts? Are you that sheltered?

For people on the bottom rung of society - and this is regardless of race, it affects white people just as bad, a savings account is moon speak. It is not a phrase that has any bearing on their lives, because you don't open a savings account when you can only put aside $10 a week - and even that requires going without. Poverty self perpetuates, so you aren't helping them pick up themselves by their bootstraps, you are simply punishing them for being poor.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Just so you're aware, the statistical outcomes for those of us who are raised in the foster care system are abysmal.
It stops the cruelty and neglect in the moment, but the trauma of displacement is a stain that informs the rest of
your life. Free and easy access to birth control, abortion and sterilization is the answer. It is infinitely cheaper and
would reduce suffering immeasurably.

I'm not arguing that foster care is perfect, I am arguing that it is better that what they would get if they stayed. The kids placed in foster care get pulled for very serious issues and a kid in the system at least stands a chance of someone helping them work through their issues.

Go troll through the Susan Schofield thread then come back and tell me those kids wouldn't be better off in foster care. That kind of abuse and neglect is not uncommon in our society but the authorities are too afraid of the blowback to step in and do something. We all know it's wrong but some jerkbag made the decision that splitting up the family would be "too traumatic" so they throw cash and benefits at them in the vain hope that someday the parents have a change of heart and stop being gigantic pieces of shit. That kind of thing really bothers me.

And, yeah, family planning needs to be a bigger thing than it is. Too many people think they are entitled to a family and that everyone else owes them and their kids after they do it. That isn't how it should work.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Welcome to the United States, where pretty much no low-wage/hourly workers get a single day of paid maternity leave. You can technically legally take off up to 12 weeks and they shouldn't give your job to someone else, but if they do, you won't really have any recourse (at best, a lawyer will get the money and you'll never see more than a few thousand dollars, while now being blackballed from jobs in your area). Women in the United States die from postpartum complications at a rate that's not normally seen in the developed world, because hotel chambermaids and fast-food workers living paycheck-to-paycheck are stumbling into work 3 days postpartum, while still passing clots the size of a fist and at huge risk for infection and exhaustion.

No one on minimum wage should have children.

 

[BeanBidan]

Nobody is forcing them to go back to work. They have these things called savings accounts where you can put money so if someone cannot work or something else happens you have funds to get you by. You need to have these if you have kids because they are great at making you need extra money for stuff.

Anyways, it's not like having a kid is a surprise. They know it's coming. They made the choice to go through with it. Why then is the financial burden somebody else's responsibility?

Savings account? What that?

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Jesus christ. Savings accounts? Are you that sheltered?

For people on the bottom rung of society - and this is regardless of race, it affects white people just as bad, a savings account is moon speak. It is not a phrase that has any bearing on their lives, because you don't open a savings account when you can only put aside $10 a week - and even that requires going without. Poverty self perpetuates, so you aren't helping them pick up themselves by their bootstraps, you are simply punishing them for being poor.

I have done nothing. They punished themselves. Those are the consequences of their actions. You don't get a pass on them just because you are poor and there is no good way to insulate people from them.

The solution here is simple. If you can't afford them DON'T HAVE KIDS!

Do you think their situation improves when they have kids? Do you think they will make better parenting decisions if we give things to them for free?

No?

Well welcome to the club.

Fyi, people often have these strong feelings not because they are sheltered but because they once were one of those kids with parents who were not ready for it and lived through those struggles.

 

[Caesare]

I don’t know how to tell you forcing mothers to go back to work days after something as physically taxing and life threatening as pushing a nine pound human out of their vagina is a little more than just ‘feel good shit’.

And there are plenty of households where both parents have to work to make ends meet.

The women who go back to work days after a pregnancy is basically always a single mother. If there is an actual working man in the picture the family can scrimp by on one income long enough to keep the new mother from returning to work that soon.