Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight

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instythot said:
I don't know. You can't realistically campaign on "fuck, do I hate Islam. Now what are we gonna do about it?"

which they're probably going to try doing, and Carl is gonna get painted with the bigot brush again
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I think that most people who are pro-UKIP would understand the problems currently presenting themselves in the U.K. because of the immigrants (because calling them migrants or refugees is disingenuous if they're never going to fucking leave) from the M.E. and North Africa and want to do something about it.

Farage and people like him, though, probably understand that you'd be putting the cart before the horse and sabotaging your chances of getting a clean break from the E.U. by talking about it/campaigning on it before a clean Brexit. Which further goes to prove the point that Carl's an absolute retard when it comes to politics as is the guy who's currently the head of UKIP.

instythot said:
I don't think Tommy is nearly as extreme as he's portrayed,
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He's not any more extreme about the topic of muslims than anyone who's ever seen an honest presentation on Islam, what it is, how it is, and why it is.
 
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instythot said:
Be that as it may, it's not a path to winning elections

I don't think Tommy is nearly as extreme as he's portrayed, but it's really easy to get him to drop a juicy soundbite and thumb his nose at the law. with public perception of him, the time to try rehabilitating his image is certainly not on the campaign trail while fighting for your political life
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Clamoring for respectability has its downsides too. Namely that what outrages the political class does not always outrage the voters. See Corbyn’s ability to survive ANTISEMITISM to see how far from normal politics Britain already is.

I am fine with the calculation being that Tommy is more of a liability than he’s worth. Just hoping that is the calculation and not “whaaa he doesnt pretend to like Muslims like I do.”
 
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instythot said:
How did Daddy Niggy displease Carl?

And how many of his Internet father figures have betrayed him now???
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Well as many people have said for a while, but Carl totally ignored, Farrage is a huge islamic migration and general islam/multiculti cuck. Farrage is using Batten's hiring of Robinson to beat him up and get more good goy points. Kinda ironic given his old ways of winking (or at least letting his party wink) at the BNP and using them as a stepping stone to power when he was in charge.

As much as Batten is right about the issues (but apparently bad at tactics), it's funny to see Carl sperg out about his hero (who people have leveled this valid criticism about for a long time).

Generally my understanding is that Batten is the head of a softer non-racist but otherwise BNPish wing of his tiny party and Farrage wants to multiculti it up. Of course Carl now threatened by someone who he should have been opposed to but wanted to ride to power threatens his attempt to make it big, so he turned on him.

Edit: if Carl really wanted to help Batten, he would go away and just encourage his followers to vote for UKIP, but Carl doesn't really care about Batten's politics. Carl just wants him to stay in charge so he doesn't get booted himself for being a raging dumbass
 
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Okay, Farage’s rationale is here

https://twitter.com/nigel_farage/status/1070029895311548417

He does seem to make much of respectability and doesn’t like calling out a specific group like Islam, which I don’t care for.

HOWEVER, overall his issue is with the diversion of purpose at the time when brexit matters. Which I think is totally defensible.

And he makes it clear the issue is Tommy’s spotty record, which I assume has something to do with donated money as I’ve heard that accusation floating around before. That Tommy brings an objectively disreputable element with him, ie street brawlers. And that the party is embracing what he thinks is the wrong strategy as part and parcel of this.
 
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Belloch said:
HOWEVER, overall his issue is with the diversion of purpose at the time when brexit matters. Which I think is totally defensible.
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I disagree because everyone who only cared about Brexit left UKIP and joined the conservatives or just went away like Farrage. The only people left were people who were drawn to the BNP but wanted something more respectable.

You don't get to be surprised or irate when you invite a bunch of smokers to your house, sell your house to them, and return to find them smoking in it
 
Spooky said:
I disagree because everyone who only cared about Brexit left UKIP and joined the conservatives or just went away like Farrage. The only people left were people who were drawn to the BNP but wanted something more respectable.

You don't get to be surprised or irate when you invite a bunch of smokers to your house, sell your house to them, and return to find them smoking in it
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Well then Farage is right to leave.
 
There is realistically no good political strategy for dealing with the effects of Islamic multiculturalism in the UK at the moment. Can’t just kick them out because it’s simply untenable legally and ethically, and you can’t just totally embrace it because you can get cultural enclaves to subvert the existing society. Calling out the issues with it while the two major parties see it as a point of attack on their enemies is just dumb. It’s tactically an ineffective approach because of the topic’s ability to be divisive rather than something to draw people on. If tensions get really bad and political correctness fades because of it then it’d not only be viable but recommended that a party twists the knife in that wound. But the UK is absolutely not in that position right now, not even close.
I don’t think Farage is wrong at all, call it optics cucking but Batten and Carl are playing the game in a really stupid way.
 
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Lysol said:
He's not any more extreme about the topic of muslims than anyone who's ever seen an honest presentation on Islam, what it is, how it is, and why it is.
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Sargon tier non-argument
Well fuck, why do I not hate Islam even after reading all of the koran and memorizing big parts of it? Weird how everything isn't true just because it's your opinion mhmm

But I agree, going all out on the islamic question would be stupid. Farrage was the only smart politician in UKIP, he understood that politics aren't the same as triggering the libs on ther internet
 
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Spooky said:
Well Carl only looks into things by reading headlines and opinion pieces, so I could see how he got that notion.
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Oh no, he starts off talking about the actual reason for the riots, but then veers violently into talking about what he wants to talk about because everything has to have something to do with the radical left for him to talk about it, and if there's no connection, he makes one up.
 
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SoyBoyCaliphate said:
Sargon tier non-argument
Well fuck, why do I not hate Islam even after reading all of the koran and memorizing big parts of it? Weird how everything isn't true just because it's your opinion mhmm

But I agree, going all out on the islamic question would be stupid. Farrage was the only smart politician in UKIP, he understood that politics aren't the same as triggering the libs on ther internet
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I noticed you mentioned only the Quran and not the Hadiths.
 
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Belloch said:
I didn't mean he succeeded. It wasn't AS bad but that was only because he put less effort into the conversation.
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I know vee made an analysis (cock guzzling) video about that. I didn't watch it because knowing him, he wouldnt address they just did what he does in "debates" and he really just came off as awkward and cringy. It's more likely Kevin and Kristi lost because reasons mayte.
 
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Pozzingmyfilthyneghole said:
I noticed you mentioned only the Quran and not the Hadiths.
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Because I didn't read all of them. And everybody would agree that the Koran is the true essence of islam. The hadiths are more practical than theological. But even then, most of the valid (sahih) hadiths are pretty tame. Nothing out of the ordinary for an Abrahamic religion imo
 
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instythot said:
Sargon has the right idea mayte, he just didn't present it well so it didn't come across to the listener mayte. I totally know how to debate this and I will challenge Kristi and Kevin to a debate livestream on this topic mayte
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It’s not like that is impossible but Sargon is the alpha skeptic (except for shoe) and he’s had several shots at this, and nobody else is stepping up.
 
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oddish said:
Oh no, he starts off talking about the actual reason for the riots, but then veers violently into talking about what he wants to talk about because everything has to have something to do with the radical left for him to talk about it, and if there's no connection, he makes one up.
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It's especially funny since the people rioting would probably be closer to UKIP/trump voters than any commies. They are mostly disenfranchised, lower middle class, middle aged white people.
 
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SoyBoyCaliphate said:
Because I didn't read all of them. And everybody would agree that the Koran is the true essence of islam. The hadiths are more practical than theological. But even then, most of the valid (sahih) hadiths are pretty tame. Nothing out of the ordinary for an Abrahamic religion imo
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OK, keep on trolling in the free world, son.
 
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