EU Le Gilets Jaune protests thread - Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men?

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One protester has died and dozens were injured as almost a quarter of a million people took to the streets of France, angry at rising fuel prices.

The female protester who died was struck after a driver surrounded by demonstrators panicked and accelerated.

The "yellow vests", so-called after the high-visibility jackets they are required to carry in their cars, blocked motorways and roundabouts.

They accuse President Emmanuel Macron of abandoning "the little people".

Mr Macron has not so far commented on the protests, some of which have seen demonstrators call for him to resign.

But he admitted earlier in the week that he had not "really managed to reconcile the French people with their leaders".

Nonetheless, he accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.

What has happened so far?
Some 244,000 people took part in protests across France, the interior ministry said in its latest update.

It said 106 people were injured during the day, five seriously, with 52 people arrested.

Most of the protests have been taking place without incident although several of the injuries came when drivers tried to force their way through protesters.

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Image captionA driver forces a car through a group of protesters in Donges, western France
Chantal Mazet, 63, was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them.

The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock.

In Paris protesters approaching the Élysée Palace, the president's official residence, were repelled with tear gas.

Why are drivers on the warpath?
The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s, AFP news agency reports.

World oil prices did rise before falling back again but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

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Image captionTear gas was used to disperse protesters in Paris
The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.

Speaking on Wednesday, the president blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.

How big is the movement?
It has broad support. Nearly three-quarters of respondents to a poll by the Elabe institute backed the Yellow Vests and 70% wanted the government to reverse the fuel tax hikes.

More than half of French people who voted for Mr Macron support the protests, Elabe's Vincent Thibault told AFP.

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"The expectations and discontent over spending power are fairly broad, it's not just something that concerns rural France or the lower classes," he said.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris says the movement has grown via social media into a broad and public criticism of Mr Macron's economic policies.

Are opposition politicians involved?
They have certainly tried to tap into it. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who was defeated by Mr Macron in the second round of the presidential election, has been encouraging it on Twitter.

She said: "The government shouldn't be afraid of French people who come to express their revolt and do it in a peaceful fashion."

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Laurent Wauquiez, leader of the centre-right Republicans, called on the Macron government to scrap the next planned increase in carbon tax on fossil fuels in January to offset rising vehicle fuel prices.

Mr Castaner has described Saturday's action as a "political protest with the Republicans behind it".

Olivier Faure, leader of the left-wing Socialist Party said the movement - which has no single leader and is not linked to any trade union - had been "born outside political parties".

"People want politicians to listen to them and respond. Their demand is to have purchasing power and financial justice," he said.

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Is there any room for compromise?
On Wednesday, the government announced action to help poor families pay their energy and transport bills.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced that 5.6 million households would receive energy subsidies. Currently 3.6 million receive them.

A state scrappage bonus on polluting vehicles would also be doubled for France's poorest families, he said, and fuel tax credits would be brought in for people who depend on their cars for work.

Protesters have mocked the president relentlessly as "Micron" or "Macaron" (Macaroon) or simply Manu, the short form of Emmanuel, which he famously scolded a student for using.

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To be honest, I don't blame the driver at all.
 
Did you guys know that Spain had a regional election? Did you know that a 'far-right' (read: Right Wing) party did well in the election? Did you know that there were a few thousand students who were upset by this and protested against the fascism of a Democratic Election where their side did poorly?

Well I know that. And I know that because that apparently is worthy of lots of articles in MSM! Massive protest of great importance, lots of pictures, interviews with the protesters and explanation of their motivation! ("against fascism!")
What a newsworthy event. Anything similar happen recently?

(in case I was too subtle, I am contrasting the coverage of France's massive protests to this tiny one in Spain)
 
Did you guys know that Spain had a regional election? Did you know that a 'far-right' (read: Right Wing) party did well in the election? Did you know that there were a few thousand students who were upset by this and protested against the fascism of a Democratic Election where their side did poorly?

Well I know that. And I know that because that apparently is worthy of lots of articles in MSM! Massive protest of great importance, lots of pictures, interviews with the protesters and explanation of their motivation! ("against fascism!")
What a newsworthy event. Anything similar happen recently?

(in case I was too subtle, I am contrasting the coverage of France's massive protests to this tiny one in Spain)

They don't want the working man to know that having each others backs in a show of anger like this is an option.
 
Did you guys know that Spain had a regional election? Did you know that a 'far-right' (read: Right Wing) party did well in the election? Did you know that there were a few thousand students who were upset by this and protested against the fascism of a Democratic Election where their side did poorly?

Well I know that. And I know that because that apparently is worthy of lots of articles in MSM! Massive protest of great importance, lots of pictures, interviews with the protesters and explanation of their motivation! ("against fascism!")
What a newsworthy event. Anything similar happen recently?

(in case I was too subtle, I am contrasting the coverage of France's massive protests to this tiny one in Spain)
I noticed this also. In other more international focused sites, it was a huge event, with people comparing it to Maidan. But I didn't notice practically any US websites covering it, in fact it took a while for it to be even posted here.
 
We mercilessly pick on the French, largely for how quickly Germany’s state of the art rapid mobility armored divisions were able to just motor right past Frances prepared lines of engagement, and slaughter the French on open unfavorable terrain, that was an easy drive to the capital. It’s a sad geographic truism of European war. France and Poland are the battlefields. And their gentle rolling terrain means they get steamrolled by whoever can move the fastest with the most firepower coming in from either side. France and Poland are where armies clash. The terrain doesn’t allow for much defense of those same bits of land.

But for all the jokes France has a first class military. One that is funded, trained, and has actual combat experience. France cannot defend France very well, it naturally being the field where other armies meet. But ZFrance is second only to the US in its ability to project power away from their borders. Israel may be tougher, but only in their local sandbox. France canextend out worldwide when needed. Their navy is in far better shape than any other Western European Nation. They have an actual functional air force, with real, modern, home grown planes, spare parts and enough budget for maintenance. Unlike say Germany, which as of this summer could only field one working combat plane and a handful of helicopters.

Americans always love to mock the French militarily which makes zero sense to me. The entire reason that US gets freedom from England is because the French government bankrupted itself to piss them off. The French paid for everything from food, to the uniforms, along with providing the second most powerful navy in the world at the time. The French Revolution was the direct cause of bankrupting the country providing the military to the US.

Have a drink with an FFL member. You will hear good stories and learn how much the French get involved in African and Asian politics.
 
So apparently the French Police Union is going to strike on Saturday?
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Their profile doesn't speak well for the Regime neither: View attachment 608034

Their statement (second half.)

EDIT: So apparently french yahoo news just picked up the story
VIGI isn't THE French police union, it's A (small) police union leaning left, and the call doesn't concern officers but administrative/technical personnel, cooks etc.

Police officers don't actually have the right to go on strikes, when they want to protest they usually call in sick and some of them have been doing that
 
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Americans always love to mock the French militarily which makes zero sense to me. The entire reason that US gets freedom from England is because the French government bankrupted itself to piss them off. The French paid for everything from food, to the uniforms, along with providing the second most powerful navy in the world at the time. The French Revolution was the direct cause of bankrupting the country providing the military to the US.
That was two centuries ago. The French aren't responsible for the US expanding into the world last remaining superpower and with America chasing off the Nazi vermin (while the communist-funded French resistance was busy blowing up railroads) I'd say they're more than even.
 
ericans always love to mock the French militarily which makes zero sense to me. The entire reason that US gets freedom from England is because the French government bankrupted itself to piss them off. The French paid for everything from food, to the uniforms, along with providing the second most powerful navy in the world at the time. The French Revolution was the direct cause of bankrupting the country providing the military to the US.

I think arming an entire armored division of Frenchies (the 2nd French Armored Division) to help retake France with the rest of the allies and then letting Charles de Gaulle do the victory speech in Paris effectively cleared all debt we had for that. They helped us declare independence. We helped free their homeland. Tit for tat. What have they done since then? The most I can say is that they didn't drag us into Algeria before they dragged us into Vietnam. Then comes France and UK putting on their big boy pants to fuck up Libya and they run out of fucking bombs prompting the US to help come to topple one of the most stable states in the middle east (and also destroy thoroughly their aqueduct infrastructure. that's just how the USAF does)

Some things beget reasons for such a mix of mirth and contempt. Some things like getting into a war on France's behalf that had no upside and a lot of malaria and bodybags.

If Domino theory was actually correct and not post-hoc justification for propping up failing french neo-colonial theory, we should have fought the battle against communism in Thailand.
 
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Did you guys know that Spain had a regional election? Did you know that a 'far-right' (read: Right Wing) party did well in the election? Did you know that there were a few thousand students who were upset by this and protested against the fascism of a Democratic Election where their side did poorly?

Well I know that. And I know that because that apparently is worthy of lots of articles in MSM! Massive protest of great importance, lots of pictures, interviews with the protesters and explanation of their motivation! ("against fascism!")
What a newsworthy event. Anything similar happen recently?

(in case I was too subtle, I am contrasting the coverage of France's massive protests to this tiny one in Spain)

The news here talked a bit about the french protest but is obviously why your news don't want to bring this: Is a "apolitical" protest so they can't manipulate the news.
 

Tiananmen Square was such a great look for China they made it illegal for their citizens to talk about it! What a great move that totally won't rile up everyone who wasn't already in the streets!

Seriously though, if they bring in A.P.C.s and tanks, actually using any of them is going to just give the protesters even more of a reason to drag Macron's ass out into the streets and beat their taxes' worth out of him.
 
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