Subscribestar.com: Legit alternative or scammy pipe dream? - Dats amazin how everyone found an alternative all at the same time!

[Ralph Barnhardt]

This is my first thread plz no bully or my son will laugh

So I'm sure by now that everyone's heard of the exodus happening from Patreon. Good. Hit them silly-con (see what I did there) meanies where it hurts says I. Though...I found it a little concerning when I started seeing the site, https://www.subscribestar.com, as the one seemingly EVERYONE was flocking to. Now I'm not too hip into these kids's hip payment processors, crowd funderinos and whatnot so I never heard of this site before. So I looked a little into it and the only person that I saw on the site homepage that I didn't recognize from the current fleeing youtube refugees is everybody's favorite big tiddi chinki techi, Naomi Wu

Once I broke free of her Chinese mystical spell I continued to look around. First thing I looked at was the bottom of the page and low and behold we can see who their masters are.

Well the next step, I thought, is to see what is and is not allowed with this service. So a click to here brings up the "rules". They look pretty generic and kind of "cool mom"ish if that makes sense that is until I get to the "dont's"...

Now I may be a paranoid ba-boomer who remembers both Kennedys and was able to vote for the whole Bush dynasty but that looks like some troubling wording. Exactly who are these "higher authorities and powers"? Maybe my senility and misanthropy are just acting up and there's really nothing to fear of """them""" ( I think I did that right my son's not here to ask pls leave comment telling me right and plx no bully). I mean, who actually likes bullies? Not me of that you can be sure!

... Still...that wording....

So my next step is to check out the Privacy page. I don't see anything out of place. It seem fairly similar to Patreon's Privacy page. Now I can't tell my C:/ drive from a floppy disk so maybe there's something I missed in the techno jargon.

Well that turned up nothing so I go check out the TOS and this is the first thing I see:

Starcling LLC? "Who be they" I wondered aloud as my son isn't around to laugh at me bumbling around on the information super highway. So one google search later finds me the Wyoming Secretary of State business filing site. Interesting, I thought, it looks like it was set up by someone at LegalZoom.com. I look into the history:

It appears that Russia isn't quite content with JUST stealing the election. They also want to take jobs from hard working American crowd funding sites!

It looks like the LLC moved from Krasnoyarsk to San Diego last year and finally landed in Cheyenne Wyoming this past May.

So who is this commie owner? Well according to the 2018 Original Annual Report it is one Mikhail Zadvornyy.

Who is he exactly? I'm not entirely sure (I really shouldn't have tried to watch Fox news whilst doing this). The best I can find is someone with his name that uses the handle RedWorker on number of sites.

Linkedin

Twitter

As well as others that I'm not really sure would add to the discussion. It seems he's a UI/UX designer with a penchant for graphic design


Anywho, now that I'd done a little looking into Starcling LLC it's probably best to get back to the TOS:

Here's the thing: I'm a ba-boomer who's a big dummy, hence why I use this site, and maybe it's also because I never read too deeply into a lot of other TOS's but the wording in the SECOND paragraph really strikes me as...odd to say the least.

According to them, just looking at the site means you're subject to their terms and conditions so no bullying and no casual looking I guess. Again, I'm a big dummy who's never looked into it before but this seems really odd to me. After looking at a few of the bigger sites I cannot find any similar wording. Maybe they realllllllly want to make sure they covered all their bases. I don't know. Let's continue before my son gets home and he kicks me off of his computing box.

Honestly I don't see a problem with this as a faithful no step on snek lolbitarian. In actual sincerity I don't know why more site just don't put this up front like this. It would've saved Patreon a lot of headache.

I can't wait till they start cracking down on the obscenely immoral practices of their users like every other site.

The rest seems fairly bog standard to a layman as myself.


So I don't know. Other than some weird/troubling wording, to me, it seems(?) like a good alternative at the the moment. That's when I peruse social media and I see someone link this video.

Now I don't know anything about this guy or what he's talking about. I went to the site and ran the report for myself and got the same results.

I'd reference my lack of technical skills/knowledge again but that joke is getting old. Maybe this means something or maybe it doesn't.


What am I looking to get out of this? As I stated at the beginning I was amazed that so many people found this site and decided to move at the same time. Granted I know that this was spurned on by what happened to Sargon but I remember the last time a bunch of people jumped on a service without looking too into it.

I want to discus is this the savior the west is looking for, another Patreon in the making, another body to lay in front of the alter of "why don't you make your own?" or is this a new twist on the Better Help con?

In conclusion: If this is actually nothing and I'm a paranoid freak then lock the thread and also pls no bully

 

[Pozzingmyfilthyneghole]

No matter what happens, I’ll win.
If Patreon loses a lot of money and subscribestar become an alternative to count on, I’ll laugh.
If a lot of ex-Patreon muppets move to subscribestar.com and get scammed, I’ll laugh.

Either way, it’s all entertaining.

 

[AF 802]

Something like this won't blow up like BetterHelp you sweaty autist.

BetterHelp was scamming mentally ill people who may or may not be on the verge of suicide. This is just scamming welfare leeches.

 

[Pepito The Cat]

This looks a awful lot like a "personal army" scenario type. Also, I googled "Ba-Boomer" and I'm still confused.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

This looks a awful lot like a "personal army" scenario type. Also, I googled "Ba-Boomer" and I'm still confused.

Ba-boomer, like those walking ball things that pop in my sons Mario games

edit: It's not my intention for some sort of personal army. I did a search and saw that no one was talking about this and I thought I'd make a discussion about it while supplying all the info I could find.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

We'll still bully, laughing son or not.

 

[LocalFireDept]

Something like this won't blow up like BetterHelp you sweaty autist.

BetterHelp was scamming mentally ill people who may or may not be on the verge of suicide. This is just scamming welfare leeches.

They may become the former when they find out they're getting scammed.

This looks a awful lot like a "personal army" scenario type. Also, I googled "Ba-Boomer" and I'm still confused.

I think he's trying to make an informative OP styled more like the OP of a cow thread, but it's odd in A&H where we just get a copy of an article. Also, you went too far with the Boomer memes, grandpa. Lay off the Monster and go to bed.

 

[Pepito The Cat]

Ba-boomer, like those walking ball things that pop in my sons Mario games

Ohhh, you mean Bob-oms? They're called "Bob"-ombs, btw.

https://www.mariowiki.com/Bob-omb

Lay off the Monster and go to bed.

But Matlock starts in an hour! Also, I was right, OP was being a sped.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

Something like this won't blow up like BetterHelp you sweaty autist.

BetterHelp was scamming mentally ill people who may or may not be on the verge of suicide. This is just scamming welfare leeches.

Oh I'm not suggesting that it will. I just used the Better Help reference as it was the most current one to have happened. I think in all actuality either it fails due to outside presure or people who use the site will suspiciously have their financial info stolen, all because they followed Carl of Swindon.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

Lay off the Monster and go to bed.

*sip*

 

[oldTireWater]

Here's the thing: I'm a ba-boomer who's a big dummy, hence why I use this site, and maybe it's also because I never read too deeply into a lot of other TOS's but the wording in the SECOND paragraph really strikes me as...odd to say the least.

According to them, just looking at the site means you're subject to their terms and conditions so no bullying and no casual looking I guess.

They'll have to get in line. The US government embeds much gnarlier clicking-this-link-is-consent clauses in a lot of their sites. Ford did it too if I recall.

Spoiler

Yea, "Notwithstanding...".

 

[inception_state]

So I don't know. Other than some weird/troubling wording, to me, it seems(?) like a good alternative at the the moment. That's when I peruse social media and I see someone link this video.

Now I don't know anything about this guy or what he's talking about. I went to the site and ran the report for myself and got the same results.

I'd reference my lack of technical skills/knowledge again but that joke is getting old. Maybe this means something or maybe it doesn't.

None of those issues listed seem particularly serious. Any of the ones with *.aspmx.l.google.com are flags this site is raising with the configuration of Google's mail server, so they're likely bogus. Also, anything to do with dmarc / spf has to do with email authentication. Basically, it allows someone receiving an email to ensure that it was actually sent by the owner of that domain, by verifying the cryptographic signature of the email against the public key in a DNS record. It would be good for Subscribestar to set this up, but it's pretty common to not have it.

The guy in the video makes some other pretty strange claims as well. Yes, Subscribestar appears to be using G Suite for email, like many other small businesses. This isn't really a big deal. Worst case, if Google kicks them off, it'd be trivial to get set up with a new email provider.

The language thing is also pretty funny. We've already established that the guy who runs it appears to be Russian, that doesn't make him automatically a cybercriminal. Also, TIL that Brazilian is a language...

TL;DR - Video appears to be mostly scaremongering. It's possible the site has issues, but he did not make a convincing case for it.

 

[Kobobzane]

Whoa, check out this girl.

"MINIBEAST Training and Apparel"

She has 1 subscriber so far, but that number can only go up. (Or down.)

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

TL;DR - Video appears to be mostly scaremongering. It's possible the site has issues, but he did not make a convincing case for it.

Thank you. I wasn't sure about this guy. He's barely a blip and I wasn't sure if he was a voice crying out in the wilderness or some kook. I suppose we'll just have to see if SumscribeStar has the moxie to to outlive all the others.

Spoiler

I doubt it

 

[CIA Nigger]

We'll know what happens in a month or two either way if there's either a ban wave or they get their payment processor cut off Hatreon style. It's a shame the corporate internet has gotten so predictable tbh.

 

[inception_state]

Thank you. I wasn't sure about this guy. He's barely a blip and I wasn't sure if he was a voice crying out in the wilderness or some kook. I suppose we'll just have to see if SumscribeStar has the moxie to to outlive all the others.

Spoiler

I doubt it

Yeah, they're going to be walking a very narrow line between getting Hatreoned and alienating their influx of new business. I'm also pessimistic, but still wish them the best of luck.

 

[heathercho]

This popped up in my subs, I hadn't heard of it until today.

 

[Sam Losco]

Whoa, check out this girl.

"MINIBEAST Training and Apparel"

She has 1 subscriber so far, but that number can only go up. (Or down.)

I don't know why an apparel company is trying to get subscribers. I think this is the same chick and appears to be the owner as the Instagram link on their site links to her Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/misscarriejune/. Scroll down and you'll see her 'roided out man who is the co-owner.

Spoiler: Thighs

 

[GreenJacket]

Lol

 

[Rand /pol/]

. Also, you went too far with the Boomer memes, grandpa. Lay off the Monster and go to bed.

*sip*

Epyc mayme