🪦 Deceased John S. Bulla / @Paul45thomas / @BullaStephen / @StephenBulla - "God's only friend"

[W00K #17]

Hope you get better John. You were never someone I had the stomach to really follow closely, but I always thought you looked like a (sexually) horrifying alternate reality version of Trey Anastasio.

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[muh_moobs]

What would be the point? He didn't actually harm anyone. Just scared a few people. His behavior is pretty clearly tied to his mental illness. About the only reasonable court action he might face is from his landlord regarding damages to the property. But his mother seems to be making good there. And really dragging Bulla into court would ultimately be a huge waste of everyone's time.

Putting Bull in a psych institute might be viewed as a minor cruelty to the poor staff that has to deal with him. But at least they are getting paid for dealing with Bulla (sexually). Putting him in jail however would be a major and violent cruelty.

Capable of standing trial doesn't change whether he had capacity at the time he committed his offense. He should still face COURT for his behavior as that is simply due process.

And, where he to be found to have lacked capacity at the time of offense due to refusing to continue medication, as he has already done in the past, that would make a case for why he must either be given stricter supervision in the community to ensure he remains compliant, or committed for life because living independently he obviously can't maintain his treatment schedule, and while this time and the last time he was released from a MH hospital, he might next time.

It would be best for him to be under watch and care for the rest of his life. Otherwise, left to his own devices, he'll probably just spiral again, and probably die alone and unremembered.

Pepperidge Farm Kiwi Farms will remember.

 

[Feline Darkmage]

They'll take care of him now, like they always should have been in the first place.
Though it'd be a lie if I said I didn't enjoy the time he spent out in the world of the internet with us.

-Feline (Sexually) Darkmage

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

I think you guys have a more favorable view of Baker Act commitments than I do- not everyone gets 'the help they need' when tossed into nuthouses. But at least the community is safer.

Capable of standing trial doesn't change whether he had capacity at the time he committed his offense.

I can think of times when that is true. For example, if someone robs a bank but gets shot in the head by police, they might be so brain damaged that they are incapable of standing trial but were responsible at the time of the crime.

That's not what happened here. He's batshit insane now and he was batshit insane when he was ranting in public and waving a knife around. Hell, this thread could be exhibit B, right after what they found in his house.

He should still face COURT for his behavior as that is simply due process.

Due process is about the rights of defendants against government deprivation of life, liberty and property; it does not require the government to prosecute cases- especially ones without injury that the government thinks it can't win because the defendant was nuts. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Bulla apologist, but he's a good candidate for a diminished capacity defense for this case.

And, where he to be found to have lacked capacity at the time of offense due to refusing to continue medication, as he has already done in the past, that would make a case for why he must either be given stricter supervision in the community to ensure he remains compliant, or committed for life because living independently he obviously can't maintain his treatment schedule, and while this time and the last time he was released from a MH hospital, he might next time.

I believe Florida's Baker act allows for conditional release, where someone can be given more freedom while still under conditions... like taking anti-psychotics, etc. This is sorta like what they did with Hinkley Jr (the guy that shot Reagan). They started releasing him for weekends and longer but he got tossed back in for awhile when they searched his stuff and found more Jodie Foster fap material.

 

[Kamov Ka-52]

I think you guys have a more favorable view of Baker Act commitments than I do- not everyone gets 'the help they need' when tossed into nuthouses. But at least the community is safer.
I believe Florida's Baker act allows for conditional release, where someone can be given more freedom while still under conditions... like taking anti-psychotics, etc.

Both of these are statements are accurate. Baker Acting someone almost always results in a short term hold, usually not much past the mandatory 48 hours required by law, barring some outliers.

 

[AnOminous]

Both of these are statements are accurate. Baker Acting someone almost always results in a short term hold, usually not much past the mandatory 48 hours required by law, barring some outliers.

This isn't just a hold. The fact they dropped the case probably means it's long-term. I'm not sure whether there will be further civil proceedings but those might not be public record as they'd involve private medical information. I have no idea whether he might have voluntarily agreed to it but his ability to consent to anything is possibly compromised too.

In any event, they chose not to prosecute a guy who was waving around a knife ranting and threatening children, so I doubt they'd do that if they thought he was just going right back on the street.

 

[Goofy Logic]

What the difference between this and the time he got Loonie Binned for exorcising his shit? It seemed to me he was gone for a couple of years for that.

 

[Rabbit Bones]

This is probably for the best. But I'm going to (sexually) miss the old pervert.

 

[cypocryphy]

Maybe he'll escape like Michael Myers.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

I would add “only ever post Cat pictures to Facebook. Of Somebody Else’s Cat!”

Quoted for truth.

Of note, in the most recent document at the time of posting - "hearing worksheet filed" from 12/11/18 - it says that Bulla meets the criteria for involuntary hospitalization and is "incompetent to proceed." Looks like we've lost a cow, friends.

So @brainbleachneeded was saved because for once mental health care in the USA actually worked. She's almost as lucky as a lottery winner.

 

[Florence]

Truly this is the end of an era.

 

[Luigi]

Good End.

 

[ContinentalButterchip]

The notion is nice but you guys deserve the biggest if you think any mental institution in the United States, let alone Florida, manages to actually move anybody toward recovery.

 

[TS 298]

Good night, John Boy.

 

[Blarmination]

The notion is nice but you guys deserve the biggest if you think any mental institution in the United States, let alone Florida, manages to actually move anybody toward recovery.

I think he’s too far gone to recover (sexually). The best we can hope for is to keep him off the streets.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

The notion is nice but you guys deserve the biggest if you think any mental institution in the United States, let alone Florida, manages to actually move anybody toward recovery.

They'll keep him off the street though, won't they?

I'm not all that convinced that people like Bulla are curable with current medical technology to the point where they should be released.

 

[89elbees]

They'll keep him off the street though, won't they?

This is America. Maybe for a few months.

 

[bearycool]

This will always be how I will remember Bulla.

F, you insane, lonely man.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

I wonder if Bulla's Mum ExParte petitioned him?

https://www.wikihow.com/Baker-Act-Someone

 

[Xenomorph]

Best thing for him honestly. Most cows either end up dead or in jail (sexually)