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phil NEEDS 16k or hes going to lose everything, all the hours, days, weeks. he spent crying woe about losing his 10 years of hard effort.

someone drops by and just started throwing large amounts of cash at phil

phil, cant even remember his name



if that still doesnt click as fucked up in your head, then youre fucked up. could probably see amy and dog helping phil find a way out of this one cause theyre such cucks
 
"Uhm, thank you Cookie, who is sitting next to me, for that tip. Actually, it wasn't really Cookie. It was someone IMPERSONATING Cookie!"
Really, no shit. Dave really thinks his audience is stupid, is he?
Btw, really appreciate your tons of transcriptions, flatsoda.

Funny as if it continue like this, the Dave will simply get more worse as a gamer and person. The begging, lazy behavior, and toxic attitude he has towards his cult and other people will increase even more since he knows he'll get vast amounts of money regardless of this and Twitch ,majoirty of time, will the look other way. The more money these idiots give to him the worse he'll get in the future.
We know how he behaves when in dire troubles and gets no support, then he just turns miserable, attacks third parties and detractors, goes full begging mode and revisits his 10 year legacy to underline how much worthy of your money he is. Meanwhile improving nothing and taking everything for granted.
Sounds like the usual Phil, with or without support. In fact I'm astounded by his STILL ongoing hard-to-watch bore-a-ton which shows no sign of energy or investment, despite the fact he gets a lot of fun(d) and transaction. He's worn out, can't even pretend to have fun.

And this gets me the most recently. He's more garbage than ever before. He is still toxic and now demonstrably scamming his audience behind the scenes. He takes no investments, has no own drive, no own ideas. And people still want to dress the corpse and make him dance.
 
I don't own muh own business dood, but surely it would be best for him to do a begging stream on boxing day (26th)? People would have received their Christmas money by then, doing it on the 24th is reducing the amount the Save The House™ fundraiser will bring in.

His schedule says there'll be 3 fundraisers next weekend.
 
I'm looking forward to the inevitable attempt by Emerald Seven to try and pull the rug out from under Phil only for it to totally not work.

I'm almost certain this is going to be a repeat of what happened with Tut. Emerald will probably gift a couple hundred more subs and then feel emboldened to start talking shit and trying to run shit in chat with Phil being at his financial mercy.

Eventually it will reach the inevitable tipping point of a mod who has an even bigger ego in chat (probably swagginz) to get super jealous that emerald is getting all of phil's attention instead of them and thus ends up banning emerald.

This leads to emerald trying to charge back everything and being unsuccessful in his attempt to do so, and further bolstering phil's paranoia and allowing him to use it as a sob story about how "detractors are trying to fuck me over, please donate now more than ever because once these subs run out nobody will give me money and i'll lose mah house!"
 
Today's the 15th. He probably got his Twitch money from October in. And tbh, I can believe he has bills coming in all over the place because he probably never thought to try and get the due date changed (or simply do all the payments at the same time). A number of my bills' due date are all over the place, but I just pay them all together at the beginning and middle of the month when I get paid, even if it's a bit early so I know it's done, and my finances reflect that.

I imagine Phil just waits until the last minute and hopes there's enough since he used to be able to do that in his so-called "gravy train" days of Youtube past.

Yeah, looking at when everything is due and then calling and setting a new due date for some of his bills is legit the absolute minimum effort action he could take to try and, not fix his situation, but maybe to try and avoid being overdrawn and wasting money on charges... and he hasn't even done that. I think he might have mentioned it a few days ago on stream, but I have zero faith in him following through.

But, hey, if some pig appears out of nowhere and gifts 500+ sub's, I guess there's no real impetus to think beyond that. That is, after all, Dark's favorite type of solution: short-term. It's almost like a child who hasn't developed object permanence yet. His account isn't overdrawn anymore, problem solved, and the concept that it could happen again doesn't exist!
 
So he needs to get an average of $9k on Twitch in every month from December to April to meet that goal. If Youtube or Patreon see big jumps, that would obviously change the math a bit. With emerald's sub gifting, he'll probably hit that for December. But the same thing would need to happen again 4 more times. So I guess Phil should hope that emerald has like $25,000 lying around?

I think it'll be interesting to see how Phil's going to act once he hits the point where Twitch earnings won't be processed in time for when his April payment is due. If Twitch keeps the money for two months, that should be around/after the beginning of February.
At that point it doesn't matter how much Twitch makes him, and he'll be fully depending on tips, direct donations, Patreon and Youtube earnings. With Twitch being his biggest source of income, that should be interesting to watch.

I'm kind of disgusted by reading my own words, btw, seeing how many sources of income he actually has for creating ONE product:

- Twitch
- Youtube
- Patreon
- Paypal (tips, donations)

Basically a quadruple dip.

I'm looking forward to the inevitable attempt by Emerald Seven to try and pull the rug out from under Phil only for it to totally not work.
Emerald_seven? I dunno what you're talking about, dood, I've never heard of this emerald_seven guy. *WET SNORT* It's emerald_green or something who gifted all these uhhh... what are they called again... SAHBS! Yeah, sahbs. Emerald_green gifted me all those sahbs, or whatever his name is. *CLEARS THROAT* Okay, let's ignore the childish trolls, everyone *ACK-ACK-ACK* Oh, Poopypoopfingernail420 just did a 50 bitch here, and asks: Hey Phil, what's ur favorite color? Well, I don't really have a favorite color, so there you go.
 
100% agree. I thought this story line would be quite entertaining to watch the free fall...

Plus I've developed quite a disliking for D$P's toxic, arrogant, narcissistic man-child ways and hoped the universe would right the wrong.

I was incorrect. I didn't see another payee giving $1000s of dollars for no reason

It'll simply never end. Just buckle in tight because at this point all signs points to some overly-invested sped party out there running some kinda snortastic slush fund for him. There's a DSP revolving door at least when it comes to whales. I just don't see what the endgame is.. beyond watching him dangle and squirm ad nauseam. We already get that without the fucking money anyways just like you can get him riled up without giving him one red cent as well. Trolls like supporting him whether they admit it or not. The terrifying alternative would be they develop more of a life of their own I guess?
 
I'll be honest. The only thing that kinda actually ticks me off about Phil is how, when I stopped in a minute ago, he was going on about how he's so different now and he looooves "interacting" with chat. And you want to slap the stupid off of him and say "No, dipshit, you love money. If you didn't have simpletons giving you literally thousands upon thousands of dollars to hear you snort, you would be ranting and raving about Twitch just like you used to." I guess I dislike total and blatant insincerity. Anyway, it is passed.
He has said before that 'interacting' is when people give him money. No more. No less.
 
Some Needless Speculation and Theory:

Theory #1
I was always told to "Follow the Money" when ever I see corruption or something looks fishy. Money? Where do you get lots of money? The Lottery of course! A cursory web search reveals there was a scratch off ticket called "Emerald 7s" in Louisiana... Louisiana!?! Tevin lives there! Tevin is deep cover trying to keep DSP alive by donating a portion of the earnings he made by re-streaming him! Tevin and Dsp have now teamed up to take money from detractors and fans from both ends!

Theory #2
Emeralds... Emeralds? And the number seven... Hmmm. Don't most Sonic games have something called Chaos Emeralds? Oh... and look at that, most Sonic games have seven total emeralds! Isn't there another kiwi star who has ties with Sonic? Why that would be none other than Chris Chan and Sonichu! Is Chris Chan taking donations made to him and funneling them through DSP!?! Have they teamed up to generate a never ending autism storm that will threaten the farms for years to come? The horror... the absolute horror!

Theory #3
It's his dad and/or mom giving subs to prop up their sons business and not looking for the general attention other donators seek. It would be away for DSP to save some face by not taking money from his mommy and daddy and allows DSP enough room to still cry foul when he won't get the money right way, BUT he still will get it before taxes and in the new year so he doesn't have to pay taxes on it for 2018(this might also be the reason a person is doing this, if DSP isn't lying and that's a BIG IF, then the best way to donate money to him now is a delayed method so he can't say he has to pay more taxes for this year.
 
Just as an update, here's emerald's current betabitch status:

emerald_seven gave 697 $4.99 subs. ($1742.50)
emerald_seven gave 100 $24.99 subs.($1750.00)

So Phil now about 1/5th of his (alleged) tax bill covered, as

What's hilarious about this is, if he REALLY DOES (and take that with many grains of salt) need this 16k for taxes, there's almost nil chance that he's got some kind of dedicated account set up where he can put all this money, and he's going to end up blowing it on other shit. He has absolutely zero self-control or ability to delay gratification, which is why I don't get this push for it being given via tip so he can receive it right away. I mean, his account isn't overdrawn anymore, so why the rush to get it NOW NOW NOW? He's explicitly stated this money is for taxes. If he raises it now, like he's been doing with all these subs, but doesn't get it for a few months, so what? He KNOWS he IS eventually getting it, and he'd actually be WAY better served getting it in a couple months, or as close to April as possible.

Tldr: if he's telling the truth that he actually needs 16k for taxes, we could be in for a pretty entertaining arc down the road when people have seen him raise all, or a good chunk of the funds, but he still can't pay them because he spent it all on oats for Khet and burgers for himself. Eh, just blame it on Tevin, I guess...



and revisits his 10 year legacy to underline how much worthy of your money he is

Which always sets up one of the more ironic things he does: 'I've been offering FREE KHANTENT for 10 years!!'



'Now pay up.'
 
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Some Needless Speculation and Theory:

Theory #1
I was always told to "Follow the Money" when ever I see corruption or something looks fishy. Money? Where do you get lots of money? The Lottery of course! A cursory web search reveals there was a scratch off ticket called "Emerald 7s" in Louisiana... Louisiana!‽ Tevin lives there! Tevin is deep cover trying to keep DSP alive by donating a portion of the earnings he made by re-streaming him! Tevin and Dsp have now teamed up to take money from detractors and fans from both ends!

Theory #2
Emeralds... Emeralds? And the number seven... Hmmm. Don't most Sonic games have something called Chaos Emeralds? Oh... and look at that, most Sonic games have seven total emeralds! Isn't there another kiwi star who has ties with Sonic? Why that would be none other than Chris Chan and Sonichu! Is Chris Chan taking donations made to him and funneling them through DSP!‽ Have they teamed up to generate a never ending autism storm that will threaten the farms for years to come? The horror... the absolute horror!

Theory #3
It's his dad and/or mom giving subs to prop up their sons business and not looking for the general attention other donators seek. It would be away for DSP to save some face by not taking money from his mommy and daddy and allows DSP enough room to still cry foul when he won't get the money right way, BUT he still will get it before taxes and in the new year so he doesn't have to pay taxes on it for 2018(this might also be the reason a person is doing this, if DSP isn't lying and that's a BIG IF, then the best way to donate money to him now is a delayed method so he can't say he has to pay more taxes for this year.

:lit::lit::lit:

You've seen that "Gumment Did 9-11" episode of South Park too many times, my bro.

That's easily the funniest shit I've seen on here all week. What a waste of coffee & my Led Zep jammies..

Eh, just blame it on Tevin, I guess...

#THANKSAUNT
 
What's hilarious about this is, if he REALLY DOES (and take that with many grains of salt) need this 16k for taxes, there's almost nil chance that he's got some kind of dedicated account set up where he can put all this money, and he's going to end up blowing it on other shit. He has absolutely zero self-control or ability to delay gratification, which is why I don't get this push for it being given via tip so he can receive it right away. I mean, his account isn't overdrawn anymore, so why the rush to get it NOW NOW NOW? He's explicitly stated this money is for taxes. If he raises it now, like he's been doing with all these subs, but doesn't get it for a few months, so what? He KNOWS he IS eventually getting it, and he'd actually be WAY better served getting it in a couple months, or as close to April as possible.

Tldr: if he's telling the truth that he actually needs 16k for taxes, we could be in for a pretty entertaining arc down the road when people have seen him raise all, or a good chunk of the funds, but he still can't pay them because he spent it all on oats for Khet and burgers for himself. Eh, just blame it on Tevin, I guess...

I think you already know the answer. Same reason he wanted people to rush order something from his Teespring.
Hint: It's almost Christmas
 
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Maybe this is a little too :powerlevel: but I spend a lot of time on Twitch and around streamers and I've never ever seen someone act so ungrateful for gifted subs. Especially that many T3 subs, that sort of gifting spree would be a huge deal in even the biggest streams, someone of Phils size should be offering to suck this guys dick live on cam. This definitely smells suspicious to me but I can't quite put my finger on what it could be.

Also regarding the whole "A new paypig always seems to show up right after the old one leaves" thing, that's not really unique to Phil, it seems to be a quite common in the streaming world. Someone will donate big for 3-6 months because typically they want something from the streamer. Often just to be friends or to get some clout in the chat. They either get that and stop donating or they realise it's not going to happen and move on. In Phils case I suspect that people realise that they can never give enough, it does not matter how much you give him. He's going to want more every time. Swaggins was a little weirder in that regard in that he seemed to care more about being top dog in chat rather than Phil himself, his ego is tied to his bit badge and now his mod badge. Of the newer ones, Grazy seemed to want to befriend and help Phil, and he's seemingly realised that he was nothing more than a walking wallet to Phil, so he's left.

If I had to give a theory on what's going on with Emerald_Seven I'd guess it's another autist trying to troll him by either doing chargebacks (which won't work) or it's a KWO style ruse cruise hoping to get Phil investigated for fraud. If it is that and they're doing what I think they're doing, they could actually make Twitch do something if it goes on for long enough.

But who knows, maybe he just found another retarded rich person with a pig fetish.
 
Maybe this is a little too :powerlevel: but I spend a lot of time on Twitch and around streamers and I've never ever seen someone act so ungrateful for gifted subs. Especially that many T3 subs, that sort of gifting spree would be a huge deal in even the biggest streams, someone of Phils size should be offering to suck this guys dick live on cam. This definitely smells suspicious to me but I can't quite put my finger on what it could be.

Also regarding the whole "A new paypig always seems to show up right after the old one leaves" thing, that's not really unique to Phil, it seems to be a quite common in the streaming world. Someone will donate big for 3-6 months because typically they want something from the streamer. Often just to be friends or to get some clout in the chat. They either get that and stop donating or they realise it's not going to happen and move on. In Phils case I suspect that people realise that they can never give enough, it does not matter how much you give him. He's going to want more every time. Swaggins was a little weirder in that regard in that he seemed to care more about being top dog in chat rather than Phil himself, his ego is tied to his bit badge and now his mod badge. Of the newer ones, Grazy seemed to want to befriend and help Phil, and he's seemingly realised that he was nothing more than a walking wallet to Phil, so he's left.

If I had to give a theory on what's going on with Emerald_Seven I'd guess it's another autist trying to troll him by either doing chargebacks (which won't work) or it's a KWO style ruse cruise hoping to get Phil investigated for fraud. If it is that and they're doing what I think they're doing, they could actually make Twitch do something if it goes on for long enough.

But who knows, maybe he just found another exceptional rich person with a pig fetish.
I absolutely agree. With Phil's size of a channel you would think he would be on his damn knees.
I've seen some channels in the 5k who are extremely grateful for even 50 dollars, and will do a little jig for them. This guy gets over 3k and can't even act like he's grateful or remember the guys name.

Second bold is exactly it really. Phil is just way too damn greedy for his own sake.

Third bold I would say it might be a possibility he's taking the route DSP wants and it's almost like behind the scenes so no one can suspect who it is so they won't get harassed. Tinfoil hat theory is it might be a way to make payment for something else behind the curtains(be it statues or the like).
 
You can chalk it up to Phil learning his lesson. He knows that if he gives this person more attention than his other regulars he'll get less money from them. Furthermore if this is indeed a troll he'd look like a tool once again and he doesn't want that. Finally of course this guy will keep donating, this is what Phil expects to happen anyway no matter what and so far the guy delivered.

Overall it makes complete sense for him to be doing what he is doing.
 
Has emerald_seven actually said anything in chat?
Also i really wanna hear Phil shoutout mistermetokur if he gets gifted another’s sub
 
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