DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[actually]

Let's see....1580 subs (400 of which are Tier 3)...annnnnnd 200 or less viewers on stream an hour after it starts. Yeah, seems legit.

 

[Salubrious]

Someone posted earlier that DSP was fourth in all of Twitch in Tier 3 subs and 1st place had 320.

Now that DSP got 200 more, DSP has more Tier 3 subs than literally anyone else on all of Twitch. Think about that.

 

[gin_nose]

Someone posted earlier that DSP was fourth in all of Twitch in Tier 3 subs and 1st place had 320.

Now that DSP got 200 more, DSP has more Tier 3 subs than literally anyone else on all of Twitch. Think about that.

the only thing worse than having to wait months for this arc to play out like the tut arc would be if we just never find out. if this guy just gifts mroe, then disappears and dark never mentions him again. i dont think i will be able to take that lol

 

[Mr.PiggyOinkOinkOink]

Let's see....1580 subs (400 of which are Tier 3)...annnnnnd 200 or less viewers on stream an hour after it starts. Yeah, seems legit.

It’s his own fault. Why is he still playing this fucking game? He’s obsessed with being this variety streamer but all it does is stretch out every playthrough for months and people lose interest, just focus on the fucking games and his viewers would be a little higher.

Then he tries to hold this shit out like its something to be proud of. He bragged during the dragon quest 11 playthrough that nobody else would stick with the game this long...but that’s because you’re taking forever to fucking finish the damn game. Everyone that played it already beat it and moved on, you just stretched it over so many weeks that it took you forever.

He’s so afraid of his viewers getting bored of the same shit that he drags out every playthrough until they get bored and stop showing up.

 

[Pargon]

Had a thought that broke me out in a cold sweat: Lord God, what if a piglet is on the way? Is this mythical $16k the first donation drive for Philip Burnell II, Esq., Long May He Reign?

 

[gin_nose]

emerald green hasnt shown up yet tonight, tonight i think is the first stream he hasnt gotten any gifted subs since this started if i am not mistaken.

Had a thought that broke me out in a cold sweat: Lord God, what if a piglet is on the way? Is this mythical $16k the first donation drive for Philip Burnell II, Esq., Long May He Reign?

Now THAT would be a story arc worth watching. He has multiple times said him and khet both dont want kids though and she seems like the type to have zero problems with an abortion or four.

 

[ParkSydeThrill]

Hot Assassin's Creed content in mid December.

This new sub situation is so gross. There is seriously no good in this universe if piggy continues to win.

 

[Mr.PiggyOinkOinkOink]

Someone posted earlier that DSP was fourth in all of Twitch in Tier 3 subs and 1st place had 320.

Now that DSP got 200 more, DSP has more Tier 3 subs than literally anyone else on all of Twitch. Think about that.

Nothing to think about, one nut job busted a nut money wise over a middle age man online, I’ll think about it when it’s genuine.

Also how much has emerald spent in total? Including the half that twitch gets?

 

[DukeMorty]

At this point I think (and probably alot of other people) this is a "detractor" using a stolen credit card to give Dark these subs so the original owner files a fradulent report and screws over Dark. The issue with this is if Twitch will take away Darks money or just pay off the money and give it to Dark. Honestly, I think Dark will recieve the money but Twitch will block any large gift subs after this because this has been ruining Twitchs reptuation with credit card companies. If anything it puts Dark on a blacklist for any large gifted subs and puts his account on possible termination because Twitch doesnt want to deal with fraudulent reports. Twitch may be rich but even so they are a business who doesnt want a bad rep. Dark better prepare to sell his house because next year Twitch wont back his dumbass up for more of these fradulent reports.

 

[thebonesauce]

I just can’t wait to see the drop off in January, I doubt even 5% of these current subs will renew. He will be back around 500 as soon as emerald_cuck blows his wad.

 

[actually]

Had a thought that broke me out in a cold sweat: Lord God, what if a piglet is on the way? Is this mythical $16k the first donation drive for Philip Burnell II, Esq., Long May He Reign?

Not a chance. Phil would m.ilk that shit for every last penny. That's a MUCH better sob story than "MUH TAXES".

 

[gin_nose]

phil was extra salty tonight. he was pissy when the stream started. soemthing tells me emerald seven told him he wasnt giving him more subs or maybe is stopping???? idk. but he is in a piss ass mood for someone who just got $9k for nothing.

 

[actually]

phil was extra salty tonight. he was pissy when the stream started. soemthing tells me emerald seven told him he wasnt giving him more subs or maybe is stopping???? idk. but he is in a piss ass mood for someone who just got $9k for nothing.

I'd honestly just assume he was being a little pissbaby who didn't get his nap in or something. But I guess we'll see what happens in the next few days.

 

[grump]

I like how Phil's relationship with Twitch is a microcosm of how morally bankrupt modern Internet society is. Evil, at least to those who hold power in the interwebs these days is simply a synonym for political opponent or an inconvenience. Phil can break rules to his hearts content and bully relentlessly. The big Silicon Valley Corp that will permanently ban a nobody for an offhand bad word and puts on a smiling fuzzy mask of kindness and moral superiority will let him get away with it because he's not a certain type of political figure, which somedays seems to be the only thing these companies go after with enthusiasm, and his bad deeds haven't gone viral in awhile, and he's earning them a bit of dosh. Its like those old stories about the stereotypical corrupt churchmen all over again.

 

[gin_nose]

I like how Phil's relationship with Twitch is a microcosm of how morally bankrupt modern Internet society is. Evil, at least to those who hold power in the interwebs these days is simply a synonym for political opponent or an inconvenience. Phil can break rules to his hearts content and bully relentlessly. The big Silicon Valley Corp that will permanently ban a nobody for an offhand bad word and puts on a smiling fuzzy mask of kindness and moral superiority will let him get away with it because he's not a certain type of political figure, which somedays seems to be the only thing these companies go after with enthusiasm, and his bad deeds haven't gone viral in awhile, and he's earning them a bit of dosh. Its like those old stories about the stereotypical corrupt churchmen all over again.

Its funny you say that because i always thought his trolls go about trying to get him banned in the wrong way. spamming twitch that he masterbates on stream in front of children isnt going to get him banned.

WHat would get him banned is to take commments he has made over the years in a context to make him sound right-wing, anti-sjw which wouldnt be hard. piece together the jew stuff, the stuff about gays, comments about hating sjw's (some are recent too) and that might get some leftist at twitch to get a stick up their ass and find a reason to ban him. i've heard twitch is fully infiltrated by sjw's these days so it probably would work.

 

[Kermit the Frog]

Twitch won't do a thing even if it turns out to be a stolen credit card. As long as they get the money, they don't give a shit. They certainly won't blame Phil for anything, considering they already treat him like a sped that needs to be protected, and as far as anyone knows there's no evidence he's involved in this in any way. They won't take away the money, the subs or block any features for him (if for no other reason than to not bother the poor customer support people with his complaining). I highly doubt they'd investigate the matter any further than just asking Phil if he knew anything about it, and when he denies it they'll leave it at that. The only way something could happen is if emerald tries to say he conspired with Phil, which is very unlikely and even then Phil has plausible deniability, unless he really is that dumb and left a trail leading right to him.

 

[actually]

Twitch won't do a thing even if it turns out to be a stolen credit card. As long as they get the money, they don't give a shit

Disagree. It looks like Twitch would be on the hook for accepting the stolen CC, at least according to this: https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/credit-cards/merchants-victims-credit-card-fraud/

The question is whether there's a threshold they pay attention to to actually take some action. Like, for one Tier 1 sub, they would happily eat it. For the 700 Tier 1s and 400 Tier 3s, where they would pay out $8700+? Bet even the Amazon-backed company is going to be doing some digging.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

Twitch won't do a thing even if it turns out to be a stolen credit card. As long as they get the money, they don't give a shit. They certainly won't blame Phil for anything, considering they already treat him like a sped that needs to be protected, and as far as anyone knows there's no evidence he's involved in this in any way. They won't take away the money, the subs or block any features for him (if for no other reason than to not bother the poor customer support people with his complaining). I highly doubt they'd investigate the matter any further than just asking Phil if he knew anything about it, and when he denies it they'll leave it at that. The only way something could happen is if emerald tries to say he conspired with Phil, which is very unlikely and even then Phil has plausible deniability, unless he really is that dumb and left a trail leading right to him.

If it turns out to be a stolen credit card, Twitch doesn't get the money. There are a lot of negative things to say about Twitch, but I don't think they're doing anything wrong, and I'm not sure what exactly the calls for investigation are asking. We've seen Twitch staff pop into chat, even confirming they are there to make sure the subs were given. Emerald isn't technically doing anything wrong by mass gifting subs, that's why the option exists to mass buy gifted subs in the first place. The charges have gone through, and they've seen the subs are actually being given and Tut/Emerald/whoever else didn't somehow game the system to mass sub people.

Outside of being a manipulative scumbag and starting the begathon in the first place, this is one of the rare situations where Phil can actually claim he didn't do anything wrong. I don't think Phil is capable of a 4d chess move like committing credit card fraud with one of his fans. There are a lot of reasons why. Phil is too paranoid for something like that for one, and we've already seen that Phil is shit at trying to hide things like this. Look at how much damage he caused by releasing those emails he thought would make him look better, but just showed multiple times that he's willing to hide donations.

Those emails also show Phil would rather be shady as fuck and hide things from his viewers, so even if he did somehow decide to scheme with one of his fans, it seems unlikely he'd propose such a public system, especially since I think even Phil is self aware enough to realize after Tut that people are naturally going to talk about the mass gifting of subs. Phil also genuinely seems more interested in tips, even in light of all the subs he's getting, because tips are immediate. I don't think Phil would have the patience to run a scam like this. Just look at how Phil acted with that statue dude. When he didn't respond in a few hours, Phil got all pissy and assumed the guy was a troll.

From a detractor standpoint, or hell, even just a casual thread reader, I wish it was a credit card scheme or something nefarious because that is way more exciting than the reality of the situation. I think this is just some sad, loyal paypig with nothing better to do with their money. I don't even think it is necessarily a whale, I'm guessing it is someone who has been saving up for a large gift donation at the end of the year. I think the best case scenario is it turns out to be some first falcon troll nonsense and we get to laugh at them for being Tut 2.0, or, they are actually successful and then we get a legendary spergout from DSP.

 

[gin_nose]

Disagree. It looks like Twitch would be on the hook for accepting the stolen CC, at least according to this: https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/credit-cards/merchants-victims-credit-card-fraud/

The question is whether there's a threshold they pay attention to to actually take some action. Like, for one Tier 1 sub, they would happily eat it. For the 700 Tier 1s and 400 Tier 3s, where they would pay out $8700+? Bet even the Amazon-backed company is going to be doing some digging.

I agree, have you ever had to deal with amazon support lol? they used to be huge cucks, now they give you a month of free prime and tell you to fuck off. these companies love to pinch pennies when they become monopolies.

Outside of being a manipulative scumbag and starting the begathon in the first place, this is one of the rare situations where Phil can actually claim he didn't do anything wrong. I don't think Phil is capable of a 4d chess move like committing credit card fraud with one of his fans. There are a lot of reasons why. Phil is too paranoid for something like that for one, and we've already seen that Phil is shit at trying to hide things like this. Look at how much damage he caused by releasing those emails he thought would make him look better, but just showed multiple times that he's willing to hide donations.

Those emails also show Phil would rather be shady as fuck and hide things from his viewers, so even if he did somehow decide to scheme with one of his fans, it seems unlikely he'd propose such a public system, especially since I think even Phil is self aware enough to realize after Tut that people are naturally going to talk about the mass gifting of subs. Phil also genuinely seems more interested in tips, even in light of all the subs he's getting, because tips are immediate. I don't think Phil would have the patience to run a scam like this. Just look at how Phil acted with that statue dude. When he didn't respond in a few hours, Phil got all pissy and assumed the guy was a troll.

From a detractor standpoint, or hell, even just a casual thread reader, I wish it was a credit card scheme or something nefarious because that is way more exciting than the reality of the situation. I think this is just some sad, loyal paypig with nothing better to do with their money. I don't even think it is necessarily a whale, I'm guessing it is someone who has been saving up for a large gift donation at the end of the year. I think the best case scenario is it turns out to be some first falcon troll nonsense and we get to laugh at them for being Tut 2.0, or, they are actually successful and then we get a legendary spergout from DSP.

absolutely phil would never be in on something like that, 100% agree. because he is a fucking pussy. a giant wet vagina. he probably is scared to get caught driving without his seat belt and yells at kat if she wont wear it. he likes to act tough but you know he was the kid in hig hschoiol who ratted on the other kids when they came to school drunk or high or cheated on a test.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

Disagree. It looks like Twitch would be on the hook for accepting the stolen CC, at least according to this: https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/credit-cards/merchants-victims-credit-card-fraud/

The question is whether there's a threshold they pay attention to to actually take some action. Like, for one Tier 1 sub, they would happily eat it. For the 700 Tier 1s and 400 Tier 3s, where they would pay out $8700+? Bet even the Amazon-backed company is going to be doing some digging.

Obviously this is pure speculation, but I think they'd look into this more because the numbers are larger than Tut, plus I have a feeling they're more alert for fraud given the holiday seasons.

The thing is, even if Amazon does directly get involved, it still doesn't involve Phil. Amazon getting involved just means they dispute the chargeback and get into a slapfight with the credit card company. I can't imagine a scenario outside of Phil straight up admitting to committing fraud where they would manually remove all of Phil's subs and take the money away from him.