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So the people who count themselves among the great thinkers and revolutionaries of recent history think the Berlin Wall was built by... The Nazis... I shouldn't be surprised by this kinda shit


Well, because Nazis are responsible for everything bad that has ever happened in the world, regardless of whether or not those things have happened before or after their appearance in history.

On that note, you've got to hand it to Nazis for being the perfect Boogeyman for the progressive content producers who've been holding the reins of media and pop culture since the end of WWII. Nazis are bullies, arrogant, machine-like, fanatical, patriarchal, belligerent, and impossible to reason with. It's okay to kill them because they're Always Chaotic Evil and they yell at you in a scary sounding language. They also use scary symbols and are physically intimidating. It's no wonder that Hollywood and leftist activists continuously try to revive them or paint anyone who disagrees with them with their colors. (Note: There was a time in America when Communists and Stalinists were also portrayed as Nazi-like, but the more red the Hollywood/Academic machine turned, the more "heroic" these Communists became.)
 
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https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/a8m8fa/the_top_us_official_in_the_fight_against_the/ (Archive: http://archive.is/ICWDb)

The reddit comments for this article are all so totally insane, I can't just cut some of them out to make an example.


>tfw people are so woke they're for war

Any military dude resigning his post because the pull out I can't disagree with them. I get where they're coming from: you've worked really hard for years to keep Syria and Afghanistan from sliding into genocide zones. Doesn't matter if you think we should be be there or not, the politicians said we're going in, and now we're in. You've been doing your job which is to make those places the least shit they can be, and doing a decent job at least keeping the wheels from coming all the way off. Now you're being told we're leaving. All the people you worked with, made promises to, they are pretty well straight fucked now.
Resigning your post is least you can do. Its not going to stop shit, but doesn't mean you have to be the one giving the orders.

Matthis resigning as SecDef I get 100%. He's a fighting marine general, a wartime consigliere; there aren't going to be any wars to fight. He's a soldier's general, and there is no way he's telling his men the past 16 years were for nothing. This is Vietnam 1972: this is the right move, you've got to know its the right move, but that doesn't mean you need to feel good about it. You don't have to feel good about explaining to everyone who fought, every soldier who's got life-affecting injuries, every soldier who's lost friends, every family that lost a member, that all that shit was for absolutely nothing.
But the alternative is killing a few thousand more for the same damn result. We should have never gone in, but that doesn't change that pulling out feels like shit.

Afghanistan is going to turn into a blood bath, and only the most fucked up, regressive, iron-fisted warlords are going to climb to the summits of power on ladders of corpses. But that's a case of the people getting the government they deserve. I don't think at any point in history the country hasn't been completely fucked. Syria less so, the rebels aren't going to have a good time, but they aren't going to be killed & tortured in fucked up ways, and there is a strong central government to take over and restore order.

If Turkey stayed out of it, there is about zero chance for ISIS to recover in Syria. The Kurds won't stand for that shit. But Turkey can't stand the thought of the Kurds having a sovereign state. Which, to be fair, if they did, that's going to get the eastern part (the part with the oil) all stirred up. So they're going to funnel arms and funds to ISIS, and they're going to try to make sure the area is as chaotic as possible.

tl;dr
Save the planet, glass the middle east and everyone in it.
 
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>tfw people are so woke they're for war
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Any military dude resigning his post because the pull out I can't disagree with them. I get where they're coming from: you've worked really hard for years to keep Syria and Afghanistan to keep from being genocide zone. Doesn't matter if you think we should be be there or not, the politicians said we're going in, and now we're in. You've been doing your job which is to make those places the least shit they can be, and doing a decent job at least keeping the wheels from coming all the way off. Now you're being told we're leaving. All the people you worked with, made promises to, they are pretty well straight fucked now.
Resigning your post is least you can do. Its not going to stop shit, but doesn't mean you have to be the one giving the orders.

Matthis resigning as SecDef I get 100%. He's a fighting marine general, a wartime consigliere; there aren't going to be any wars to fight. He's a soldier's general, and there is no way he's telling his men the past 16 years were for nothing. This is Vietnam 1972: this is the right move, you've got to know its the right move, but that doesn't mean you need to feel good about it. You don't have to feel good about explaining to everyone who fought, every soldier who's got life-affecting injuries, every soldier who's lost friends, every family that lost a member, that all that shit was for absolutely nothing.
But the alternative is killing a few thousand more for the same damn result. We should have never gone in, but that doesn't change that pulling out doesn't feel like shit.

Afghanistan is going to turn into a blood bath, and only the most fucked up, regressive, iron-fisted warlords are going to climb to the summits of power on ladders of corpses. But that's a case of the people getting the government they deserve. I don't think at any point in history the country hasn't been completely fucked. Syria less so, the rebels aren't going to have a good time, but they aren't going to be killed & tortured in fucked up ways, and there is a strong central government to take over and restore order.

If Turkey stayed out of it, there is about zero chance for ISIS to recover in Syria. The Kurds won't stand for that shit. But Turkey can't stand the thought of the Kurds having a sovereign state. Which, to be fair, if they did, that's going to get the eastern part (the part with the oil) all stirred up. So they're going to funnel arms and funds to ISIS, and they're going to try to make sure the area is as chaotic as possible.

tl;dr
Save the planet, glass the middle east and everyone in it.

Eh... I think a lot of these places don't have a good answer to their problems. It's either pull out completely and let natural selection take it course, or create a new American Raj for the next few decades.
 
Eh... I think a lot of these places don't have a good answer to their problems. It's either pull out completely and let natural selection take it course, or create a new American Raj for the next few decades.
Theres always plan c: steal as mutch as you can and then glass it to hell
 
I want to call out an old post that seems to have not gotten its due when it was originally posted.
Reports are starting to come back from campuses, and it's been interesting to read. The bulk of students who are doing the unthinkable crime of looking for answers are quickly learning that - no, over half the country isn't racist, sexist, or homophobic, and by saying they are, they've denied themselves the ability to debunk Trump's legit flaws on merit.

The rest of the clique has been doubling down; this means the next phase is about to begin.

If you want to know how Social Justice dies, check below the spoiler tag and follow helpful text diagram below:

This is all based upon pre-existing data. All evidence is that Social Justice will follow the exact decline as every other movement that precededed it. Steps that have already happened are going to be in green, ones in the process of happening are yellow, ones about to happen are orange, and ones going to happen down the line are red.

1. Systemic Losses
The death of Social Justice begins with losses. The first step in a group like it starting to collapse is breaking its back. Because Social Justice is heavily leader-focused, and tends to attract people who are out of their fucking minds, they tend to lose when they face organized resistance - whether it's from people who simply won't be shamed or people willing to insult them openly. Once they're chimping, their greatest strength - social networking - is easily turned against them, and no amount of echo chambering is enough to soften the blows.

Anyone who follows Social Justice on the Farms will know it's been one loss after another with these groups for years: First, Social Justice lost to a bunch of fucking spergs who play Vidya. They tried to frame this los as anything but what it was (unmitigated disasters for their own side, ones that went on to make several in their own camp "wake up" and turn on the cult), but the truth was obvious to anyone looking: They lost. While the big "names" in Social Justice lost a lot - their careers (Chipman, Dina, Rapp, etc), professional reputation (Wu, Quinn, Gallant, Nyberg), and more, the GG spergs had lost absolutely nothing because the spergs were already labelled Satan by the establishment (thus having nowhere downward to go), and moreover, no reason to give a shit what other people thought. The result was Social Justice doubling down, claiming a win when they didn't actually have one, and declaring that Gamergate was being enabled by people talking about it and thus showing that everyone hates women (somehow).

GG didn't in any way cause or enable Trump's candidacy, but it painted the perfect picture of Social Justice's biggest weak points and how to fight them, which is why Brexit punched them so hard in the dick. Then, as now, we saw hand-wringing, whinging, and arguments that it was the end of days. None of that proved true and his, again, woke people up - and again, the result was Social Justice doubling down and getting even crazier in pursuit of ideological purity, arguing that Brexit happened because of Islamophobia and racism, when everyone familiar knew the reason was shit like Rotherham and Cologne.

The loss of Hillary is the second time they've lost using this candidate (the first time was to the scary black man that they openly hated), and the third time they've gotten openly crushed to this degree. All the fearmongering they used - over Gamergate, and then again over Brexit - didn't do jack and shit because so many people had seen this same tactic used over and over and over again for years. The result has been, again, more doubling down, this time to the point where they've chased away too many of the filthy normies and have nobody to blame but the faithful at this point.

2.Circular Firing Squads
The dust is settling from the election, but these people are looking, desperately, for someone to scapegoat. Social Justice is a land of moral absolutism; you're either good or bad, and good means complete capitulation to the party line. But when the party line leads to loss after loss, it gets harder to justify, especially when that party line migrates into Crazytown and begins with accusing half the country of being racist and homophobic.

When the dust settles, and the group is faced with the realization that their own ideology led to the loss, they react differently depending on who is involved. Rank-and-file members will realize they were lied to, and fuck off for greener pastures or try to find a better way (becoming enemies of great SocJus in the process, of course). The true believers have no choice, as we've seen, but to double down, and this will inevitably lead to fracturing as the rank and file point out the obvious, which is that they're fucking losing. Inevitably, they will start looking for a scapegoat they can blame for the loss. It will start with blaming the usual suspects - Whitey and men in general - but that will soon lose effect because the victory clearly invovled Trump winning areas that defy this claim, such as women, minorities, and LGBT people. The fact that Trump will not actually create an anti-homosexual laser satellite (surely to several Kiwis' disappointment) will further bring them rage because they're left without anything to attack directly - and that's where the hunt begins.

It's critical to note that unlike most grassroots groups, the likes of Social Justice is extremely reliant on force of personality and charismatic individuals (such as they are) to keep the plebs in line. Many SocJus leaders are practically lionized, to the point where a picture of Anita Sarkeesian with a halo was a header on Gamerghazi for months. This central focus tends to result in very powerful leaders, but also acts as an Achilles' heel; if one of the group is discredited or caught doing something retarded, it forces them to circle the wagons and waste resources and time defending someone who by all accounts would have gotten cut loose anywhere else (Nyberg for instance), sacrificing their credibility in the process. If two "leaders" come into conflict - even just through skirmishing of their clique - the fallout is obvious.

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Which of course brings us to where we're at right now. In a mad desire to stay relevant, the cliques will begin to make war with one another, blaming not-themselves for the loss - after all, it was all those filthy free-thinkers who wouldn't simply accept the bullshit line about Trump hating women. Meanwhile another camp will blame BLM for its anti-police shit, and another will blame the DNC for coronating Hillary and screwing the democratic electorate. It's complete pandemonium as the usual suspects fight a desperate losing battle to maintain their power structures as the alliance they so carefully built-up over the last few years starts to crumble. On DailyKos right now, for example, there's been dozens of threads essentially declaring that Bernie was right and the DNC was retarded, agitating the userbase to a pants-shitting rage, but they can't silence the sheer volume of dissent. As the infighting starts, the ability to narrative-push dies and one of the key strengths of the group is lost.

3. The Purges Begin
This is where the chimpouts start to go nuclear. We've already started to see a bit of it, with people blaming other groups outright and skirmishing with one another on Social Media, and the assassination threats mean this is about to hit full burn. As they circle and desperately look for anything to blame for the loss, the inevitable will happen: Their own safespaces will become coffins. They'll echo chamber hard - just like their predecessors did - on private forums where a handful of people will believe what they say without question and they can exhibit dictatorial control, Vade-style, over a tiny shred of followers. This will do nothing for their public image which will continue to deteriorate as the faithful act more and more fucking crazy, alienating more fucking normies. A few will get nice visits from those men in black with sunglasses who want to know why they just advocated killing American citizens.

Eventually even mildly critical voices will be chased out, leading to CON-style leaks and subsequently even bigger chimp-outs. The wars between the cliques will intensify and soon they'll be at one another's throats, abandoning whatever the fuck they originally purported to care about in favor of waging a campaign of terror to gain some small shred of their old power and influence, believing that if they can achieve some level of ideological purity, they'll be vindicated. It never works.

The smarter ones will take the money and run, and quit the field before things get worse; cannier ones may try to spin it to their advantage, but the crabs-in-a-bucket mentality will kick in, and they'll be just as jealous of one another and grasping for power as they were before. They'll take pot-shots at one another; they'll blame one another, and in some cases, they'll go full Chloe Sagal.

This leads to a constant climate of fear, and soonafter, the communities will lie abandoned, save for the true faithful.

Finally, the worst part comes: Without any ability to control the narrative, their biggest asset has been lost, and at this point the money starts to leave as well. This spells certain death because without the influx of cash, the agenda pushing doesn't fucking happen, save from the crazies, further damning them. This leaves the true believers as the only holders of "the message," and leads to the last step.

4. The Collapse
Here, specifically, is where the end is.

Social Justice in its final phase dies with a whimper, ultimately being reduced to nothing more than a living meme, same as the Christian Coalition, Tea Party, and Occupy before it, and for the exact same reasons - being co-opted by people who are certifiable nutcases and have zero credibility whatsoever. Whether it was the Christian Coalition's members getting caught soliciting gay sex (to the point where it was a meme decades ago), to the the Tea Party becoming synonymous with Orly Taitz, to the Occupy movement finding the two most fucking insane people on the planet to send as representatives to talk to the press, this step is the one that marks the end of anyone to take them seriously.

By this point the money has dried up, they've been abandoned by the establishment and left to wither away, and the bulk of their leadership, central to their operations, has fucked off to greener pastures or become so crazy that they're practically memes in and of themselves, if not Lolcows.

They will not be missed, except as something to ridicule.
What fascinates me is that this seems to parallel cults to an uncanny degree, and not just in the broad strokes of rabid tribalism, crushing groupthink, and categorical rejection of any input proffered by outsiders. Swap social justice for your cult du jour and it's still word for word accurate. The scary part is as these groups eat themselves from the insides out they also radicalize―alluded to in the original post but not directly addressed―which begs the question: what's the endgame for the diehards?

Falling back on the cult comparison history has shown over and over again that there's always a quantity of true believers that simply will not renege on their beliefs, no matter what. This almost always ends disastrously, my favorite example being the Anabaptist takeover of Münster (of which Dan Carlin did an excellent podcast). The difference―Münster example notwithstanding―is that cults and suchlike fringe radical religious movements are concerned either exclusively or at least primarily with two things: the afterlife and their internal affairs, both of which check their potential damage to everyone else. This of course isn't the case for SocJus, as its ideology is inherently political and therefore predicated upon the exact opposite; that is this life, and the affairs of others. Can't protect all those innocent refugees without doing something about the deplorables in society, no?

Being two years and 1500 pages behind the rest of the thread, I have to ask what happens―or happened―after the collapse? Everything I've read (not just here) about the zealots suggests that they're both desperate and zealous enough to take extreme action.
 
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Imagine believing Trump has so much power he can summon natural disasters whenever he wants
If he is, he must be dicking around to earn some experience until he can unlock magnitude 10 earthquakes for a special place that starts with 'c' and ends with an 'a' and sits right on a major fault line.
 
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This was in response to a tweet about the Indonesian tsunami. It's hard to tell if it's a parody anymore.

I believe that I remember non-ironic comments about Dubya being responsible for Katrina because all oil-shilling Republicans hate the environment and relish global warming and piss on poor black people. (Oh, hey, Kanye! That was awkward.)

Imagine if Twitter had existed and/or been mainstream from 2001 on.
 
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