Megathread Insane Parents of "Transgender" Kids - Parents who push a transgender identity on their children

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Oh, most therapists and doctors in the US aren't on the troon train. Most of the people I work with are skeptical about this shit.
They have to be more than skeptical; they have to actively condemn this horror. But good luck keeping your job in this degenerate social climate.
 
They have to be more than skeptical; they have to actively condemn this horror. But good luck keeping your job in this degenerate social climate.

A lot of medical professionals just feel defeated when it comes to these things. The patient-doctor relationship in the US has become completely fucked up and it's more of a provider-consumer relationship.

So you can take a stand and publicly say that it's wrong to be trooning out kids. You'd get a bunch of angry people on the internet on your case and they'd start yelling about TERFs like they usually do...but you wouldn't really change anything.

Health insurance companies, in the US, are essentially the party that acts as the patient care manager. They don't pay for this (in fact, I looked up a few PBMs and it looks like they don't even cover GnRH agonists for childhood precocious puberty.) That fact plus the fact you need to shop around for a doctor to okay this is typically a sign you're doing something really fucked up and against current standards of care.

If someone has money and they want to troon out their kid, they're gonna troon out their kid. That's pretty much what it boils down to. It's a sad state of affairs, but hopefully something like this lets the healthcare profession realize that allowing politics to influence the standard of care is something that shouldn't be allowed.
 
I think these lines from the most recent Sue Donym article sums it up.

In the United States of America, over 40,000 people were lobotomized. Forty percent of the victims of lobotomies were homosexuals. Lobotomies were a way to ‘cure’ homosexuality. Lobotomies left people severely disabled, and today we regard it as medical barbarism. It was a mutilation looking to be a cure, preying on societies most marginalized.

Today, in the United States of America, we prefer to sexually lobotomize the homosexual in childhood. To take children who don’t behave according to sex stereotypes, to chemically sterilize them, and then physically castrate them once they reach adulthood. These children, who may have grown up to be healthy homosexuals, are never allowed to go through their true puberty. They are turned into approximations of the opposite sex; they are denied a sexuality, they are denied any form of sexual maturity. Through becoming approximations of the opposite sex, any potential homosexual desire is heterosexualized.

The Dutch Protocol, child transition, call it what you want. It will not change the fact that is a conversion therapy so brutal, so homophobic, that seeks the destruction of even a child showing the potential to be homosexual in adulthood. The new conversion therapy is truly dreadful. It requires the obliteration of even acknowledging the potential homosexual self — through legal sex changes on birth certificates, through the choosing of a new name and describing the old name as ‘dead’. The potential for a homosexual self, retroactively changed so that the potential homosexual child was always, at least, legally, a potential heterosexual. It snuffs out the potential homosexual self before it can even exist. It snuffs out the very history, the very fact, that there was a potential homosexual self at all.They say that these children can now be their ‘authentic selves’.

To the transgender movement, the only ‘authentic self’ is the heterosexual self. LGBTQ+ organizations, awash with money from trans-supporting philanthropists, support this monstrous homophobia.

Out of all the groups supporting The New Conversion Therapy, this is the greatest betrayal, and it is a betrayal of children, many of whom would have grown up happy and healthy homosexuals if not for this ‘treatment’.

Because in ten years, I won’t be writing how I’m wrong. I’ll be writing on the endless medical malpractice lawsuits that this ‘treatment’ will have spawned. The damaged children. The heartbroken parents convinced they were doing the right thing.

It’s time to pull our heads out of the sand and call this for what it is.

Conversion therapy.
 
I've heard a lot of therapists actually are very pro-transition. Lots of horror stories at 4thwavenow about people taking their teenagers in and the therapist not even asking about previously diagnosed mental illness before writing a hormone letter. But it could be different in child vs adolescent psych.
 
I'm not sure that as many therapists are pro-transition as it seems. This belief system has run rampant through the theraputic schools to the point where your not allowed to say "what is your gender?" and the like because it could "insult and ostracize" non-binary children. We should let kids be kids and realize that kids at a certain age question why they are different then peers and its completely normal developmental behavior that allows them to make their own self-identity, not suddenly decide it means they are transgender as a way for parents to get some fame.
 
I finally witnessed that transmum1 person who was mentioned briefly on this thread. She ranted at Robert Webb because he publicly criticized some kind of charity group that claims that they help trans kids.

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Robert Webb angered people with some recent tweets where he's being called transphobic and a terf and he's attracting people like this in the replies.

https://twitter.com/transmum1/status/1076627163208654849

Others:
https://twitter.com/FierceMum/status/1076575718430126081
http://archive.is/g78WQ
 
I've heard a lot of therapists actually are very pro-transition. Lots of horror stories at 4thwavenow about people taking their teenagers in and the therapist not even asking about previously diagnosed mental illness before writing a hormone letter. But it could be different in child vs adolescent psych.

The general political climate surrounding kids who want to transition or might have gender identity issues has caused the default response to basically be "I dunno, you should probably ask someone else about this" even if you think transitioning is a horrible idea for kids.

So where do parents get referred to? Well, therapists that specialize in treating gender identity issues! Who are, unsurprisingly, pretty far down the rabbit hole and will see almost anything as being an expression of gender dysphoria.

As a dumb analogy, it's kinda like taking your kid to see a faith healer who thinks psychiatric illnesses are caused by demons and then finding out that your kid, shockingly, has the demons. There wasn't REALLY going to be any other outcome.
 
I finally witnessed that transmum1 person who was mentioned briefly on this thread. She ranted at Robert Webb because he publicly criticized some kind of charity group that claims that they help trans kids.

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Robert Webb angered people with some recent tweets where he's being called transphobic and a terf and he's attracting people like this in the replies.

https://twitter.com/transmum1/status/1076627163208654849

Others:
https://twitter.com/FierceMum/status/1076575718430126081
http://archive.is/g78WQ
She's the lunatic whose "son" came out as trans at the age of five. There's no way that kid isn't going to have mental issues later on in life
 
To the transgender movement, the only ‘authentic self’ is the heterosexual self.
I think this is maybe overstating the case a bit, considering how many middle-aged low-effort "translesbians" are prominent in the community. It does sound correct that among children there's a much higher prevalence of Iranian-style "better a straight daughter than a gay son" conversion, but I'd be curious to see some actual stats on this.

Part of me wonders if this all is going to end up causing a generational shift in the officially accepted transgender ideology as today's cohort of child transitioners comes of age.
The other part of me says: beardy autogynephiles will always find a way.
 
I think this is maybe overstating the case a bit, considering how many middle-aged low-effort "translesbians" are prominent in the community. It does sound correct that among children there's a much higher prevalence of Iranian-style "better a straight daughter than a gay son" conversion, but I'd be curious to see some actual stats on this.

I've never seen a questionnaire given to parents that would accurately capture something like that, unfortunately.

But it's interesting that the rise of low-effort Buffalo Bill lesbians running around seems to be a uniquely first-world phenomenon. MtFs in South America, for example, tend to be low-SES and they exclusively have sex with men, both gay and straight. In the US you have a lot of high-SES lesbians stuck in a man's body. There's definitely something going on here worth exploring but no medical journal is willing to touch that shit with a 10-foot pole.
 
I've heard a lot of therapists actually are very pro-transition.

It depends on the location. Therapists are also scared of recommending wait-and-see therapy and then getting social-media mobbed by some psychopath with blue check mark who decides to write "a story" about it. And if they live in Cali, good luck with their career after that. So, they just shout hot potatoe and throw it to another one.

Its simply safer to deal with pedos, murders and such.
 
It does sound correct that among children there's a much higher prevalence of Iranian-style "better a straight daughter than a gay son" conversion, but I'd be curious to see some actual stats on this.
My hypothesis on this is that gay children are more likely to feel that something is "wrong" with them in comparison to their peers. Attraction to girls is seen as a "boy" thing and attraction to boys is seen as a "girl" thing to young children; gay kids are also more likely to behave like and enjoy activities associated with the opposite sex, possibly due to identifying with them because of their orientation. Even gay children who don't know exactly what about them is different (most of them--kids don't have a strong grasp on their sexual orientations for obvious reasons) will still feel alienated around same-sex peers and sometimes express that they feel that they should have been the opposite sex. Read any gay memoir and you will almost certainly find an account of feeling like or wishing to be the opposite sex as a young child before developing any understanding of why one would feel that way.

So these straight parents--who haven't had the experience of growing up gay themselves--have children who "behave like" the opposite sex, have opposite-sex friends, and maybe even express a desire or claim to be, with their limited child's understanding of bodies, actually the opposite sex themselves. They look for information about people wanting or claiming to be the opposite sex and what they find is the transgender community. They are told, by both the media and doctors, that claiming to be the opposite sex or expressing distress in one's sexed body means that their child is truly the opposite sex and needs medical intervention in order to grow up healthy. So, they do what most parents who are told their children need medical help do: they trust the doctors and treat their children.

I don't know how these parents would react to having a gay child. It's possible that some or most of them would be totally fine with their kids turning out to be gay and would love and accept them as they are. But since they don't have a personal understanding of a gay childhood, that possibility doesn't even occur to them--or if it does occur to them, it gets dismissed as they are told by much louder voices that the true narrative of their children's lives is one of being born in the wrong body.

Obviously, there are probably gay parents who are transitioning their children and there are probably straight and bisexual children who are being transitioned, but this I do think this is the general trend of childhood transition. I think it explains why so many of the children being transitioned seem to be gay even though the parents might not be actively aware of their children being gay and might be generally accepting of the possibility.
 
They are. Asking questions counts als "conversion therapy" and can ruin your career. You get hormones after a few sessions. The real issues never get adressed.

I think at some point in the next decade someone will do a study that shows that, hey, pumping your body full of a bunch of synthetic sex hormones forever to halt puberty and give you moobs actually leads to things like massive cardiovascular problems and other fun stuff down the line, and then everyone will go "WHOOOPS" (at this point there's no way this modern Cultural Revolution we're living through will still be going) and all this shit will just end up being remembered as the electoshock therapy of the 21st century.
 
I think at some point in the next decade someone will do a study that shows that, hey, pumping your body full of a bunch of synthetic sex hormones forever to halt puberty and give you moobs actually leads to things like massive cardiovascular problems and other fun stuff down the line, and then everyone will go "WHOOOPS" (at this point there's no way this modern Cultural Revolution we're living through will still be going) and all this shit will just end up being remembered as the electoshock therapy of the 21st century.

It would probably be hard to get an IRB to allow a study to be done since transexuals are a considered protected populations in research. To do a research proposal that had nothing to do with trans I had to sit a module on human research in trans and gender non-binary on CITI in case someone who was trans signed up.
 
It would probably be hard to get an IRB to allow a study to be done since transexuals are a considered protected populations in research. To do a research proposal that had nothing to do with trans I had to sit a module on human research in trans and gender non-binary on CITI in case someone who was trans signed up.

Yeah obviously it's going to take a while because the Red Guards are out in force. But these mass hysterias never really last forever. Sooner or later some proposal will slip through and get funding due to a momentary lapse of wokeness. If a study like that came out today it wouldn't amount to anything and people could just ignore it, but once the fatigue really sets in I think it's going to be possible for people to look back at what a huge mess this whole thing has been and say "damn".
 
It would probably be hard to get an IRB to allow a study to be done since transexuals are a considered protected populations in research. To do a research proposal that had nothing to do with trans I had to sit a module on human research in trans and gender non-binary on CITI in case someone who was trans signed up.

Holy shit that's insane.
 
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