Orbiter Kat Speculation - With guest appearances by her sister, Jenna

Guess Kat's weight.

  • >200 lbs.

    Votes: 17 3.2%
  • 200 lbs.-250 lbs.

    Votes: 116 22.0%
  • 250 lbs.- 300 lbs.

    Votes: 85 16.1%
  • Damn that's a huge bitch.

    Votes: 309 58.6%

  • Total voters
    527
Has anyone tried contacting Kat’s ex recently to get more information? I know he got bombarded when the hair wave videos were first discovered. Maybe he’s ok now?
 
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Thank you. That poor woman. Does every man in her life make her do shit she doesn't wanna do? I do stand by my assertions the she herself is not a lolcow, but just a woman trying hard to make shit work in the world. I question her taste in men, but there is nothing wrong with her that a good long course of therapy couldn't resolve.

yeah, I'm gay for Kat. Fuck you. We gon run away and be like
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and have Tevin's surrogate lesbian babies.
 
Kat's the sort of damaged goods only weirdos like Phil are willing to put up with.

Subaru sounded nice enough in the info he gave us but dude still made his relationship seem shitty which makes you wonder why it took her seeing Phil to end things.

I'm convinced Phil splurged big on her every trip and puffed himself up as the Rich Streamer Sugar Daddy. So its entirely reasonable to assume she convinced herself that was Real Phil.

Now she'll just do the same thing she did last time, couch surf til a better opportunity comes along because Phil's too much of a beta coward to kick her out.
 
Kat's the sort of damaged goods only weirdos like Phil are willing to put up with.

Subaru sounded nice enough in the info he gave us but dude still made his relationship seem shitty which makes you wonder why it took her seeing Phil to end things.

I'm convinced Phil splurged big on her every trip and puffed himself up as the Rich Streamer Sugar Daddy. So its entirely reasonable to assume she convinced herself that was Real Phil.

Now she'll just do the same thing she did last time, couch surf til a better opportunity comes along because Phil's too much of a beta coward to kick her out.

Dude, don't be the first person on Kiwi Farms to be disrespectful to a woman. Kat is the least autistic of any of us.

You're right about SugarPig, I am sure he, like a good little narcissist, did & does love bomb her when he feels that would be effective.
 
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He said that he & Kat are extremely over-stressed, working all the time just to make ends meet. Which is probably at least 84% bullshit, but imagine that, poor Kat now works like a slave to pay of his credit card debt. Yep, that's a beautiful life that they have built together.
 
Most keurig things come with a reusable basket cup.

Source: Have a keurig and a coffee grinder to make my own "k-cups."

Yes. Our local dollar store has reusable ones, 4 of them for like $5.

Dude, don't be the first person on Kiwi Farms to be disrespectful to a woman. Kat is the least autistic of any of us.

Aha... HAHAHAHAHA

You’re joking right?
 
He said that he & Kat are extremely over-stressed, working all the time just to make ends meet. Which is probably at least 84% bullshit, but imagine that, poor Kat now works like a slave to pay of his credit card debt. Yep, that's a beautiful life that they have built together.
Before she moved in Phil kept talking about how awesome it was going to be having her income to help pay bills, and how much financial stress this was going to relieve on him, up to very shortly before she arrived.

After she arrived Phil explained the reason she isn't able to help him out whatsoever is: "Adults come with their own 'stuff'. She has her own 'stuff' she has to pay for, her own health insurance, unowatImeen? She didn't arrive from a void with no attatchments, she has her own Adult stuff, adults have their own responsibilities, she has her own debts. So she's just going to be paying for whatever amount her living here increases the utilities buy, and splitting the grocery bill with me, so that will help out a little bit. . .but 'No' Kat living here doesn't change my bills situation, she's not paying for my mortgage ACK ACK ACK I still need your help just as much as I did." PigCult wasn't to chuffed with this explanation as it came after telling them the X-mas 'BackTaxes' donations were used to pay to move Kat in (Feb 12th, 2018), and Phil still had no idea how much they would be or when they would be due, and the rest of the money was paid to a 'Tax Attorney' (CPA) to deal with the situation. Phil had sold the cult on the idea using their donations to pay to move Kat in was a great thing for them because they would need to give him less total money to keep Phil financially afloat. I believe sometime in December 2018 Phil said that Kat was 'actually going to be able to help give a little bit more for bills, so that's nice,' whatever amount a little bit is :|

So the story from Phil is: She has her own debt (currently unspecified) that prevents her from paying him any kind of rent, or from helping out with utilities more than the couple dollars for water usage and electricity Wattage she uses, and paying for some of the food she eats.

Kat has stated during the 2nd IRL stream that she had college classes in "drawing and writing stories", so maybe some student loans. Maybe she was paying for things by racking up debt between when Subaru man kicked her out (he stated he kicked her out as soon as he saw the messages with Phil and has had nothing to do with her since July 2017) and moving in with Phil. We have seen the legal filings of her being evicted, and police being required to remove her from the premises 1 month after the notice was served, around 11 month before the "Hair Trick" videos were uploaded to Youtube, maybe there is some debt there.

Whatever the case, Phil has said she is definitely not paying any of Phil's credit card or loan debt, or for his mortgages.
 
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I missed this, can you share some links?
Sure, I was being kind of lazy :lol:
Here's a link to the original post with an image of the case numbers, dates, and legal actions; from the '2018-7-29 New Kat Lore' thread. Here's a link to my post from that thread explaining what I had found the legal action terms mean, especially in conjunction like that.

The 'Hair Trick' videos in her old boyfriends car were posted on Youtube 11 months, and 14 months after this incident in 2013.
 
Whatever the case, Phil has said she is definitely not paying any of Phil's credit card or loan debt, or for his mortgages.

He fucking lies. I do not believe for a moment they keep a careful log to ensure she is keeping 'her' 'share' of 'her' money. You are right, all of those things have been said, and you relate it well. He is, however, a lying, cheating, shameless twatwaffle. He has found an indentured servant, he pays her in simulated security and she pays him in effort, time and literal money. He is beneath contempt and she is so clearly in need of actual adult emotional and practical support.

Panda was an infant that he used, Kat is a lost waif he is using and the next poor girl will either just be another urchin or he will hook up with a Brontgeist-style partner in crime.

When people speculate she is some master-mind schemer it really makes me wonder if people have ever met actual... people before. Not you, bro, am just bitching because I need a cup of tea and because Phil is a great big polyp.
 
He fucking lies. I do not believe for a moment they keep a careful log to ensure she is keeping 'her' 'share' of 'her' money. You are right, all of those things have been said, and you relate it well. He is, however, a lying, cheating, shameless twatwaffle. He has found an indentured servant, he pays her in simulated security and she pays him in effort, time and literal money. He is beneath contempt and she is so clearly in need of actual adult emotional and practical support.

Panda was an infant that he used, Kat is a lost waif he is using and the next poor girl will either just be another urchin or he will hook up with a Brontgeist-style partner in crime.

When people speculate she is some master-mind schemer it really makes me wonder if people have ever met actual... people before. Not you, bro, am just bitching because I need a cup of tea and because Phil is a great big polyp.

I think there is a middle ground between 'goldigger whore' and 'indentured servant' don't you think?
 
I think there is a middle ground between 'goldigger whore' and 'indentured servant' don't you think?

I certainly do, but we are dealing with idiot detractors and mentally ill people here, dude. In my fevered rush to destroy Phil, I made my point poorly. (:_(
 
He fucking lies. I do not believe for a moment they keep a careful log to ensure she is keeping 'her' 'share' of 'her' money. You are right, all of those things have been said, and you relate it well. He is, however, a lying, cheating, shameless twatwaffle. He has found an indentured servant, he pays her in simulated security and she pays him in effort, time and literal money. He is beneath contempt and she is so clearly in need of actual adult emotional and practical support.

Panda was an infant that he used, Kat is a lost waif he is using and the next poor girl will either just be another urchin or he will hook up with a Brontgeist-style partner in crime.

When people speculate she is some master-mind schemer it really makes me wonder if people have ever met actual... people before. Not you, bro, am just bitching because I need a cup of tea and because Phil is a great big polyp.
Yeah, I really go back and forth in my head between:
1. She must be working minimum wage jobs and only pulling in enough per month to pay down her debt, pay for gas and groceries, health insurance, and trying to build her life back up like having a few more clothes than the box she showed up with, owning a few more video games than just Overwatch downloaded on her PC, personalizing her living area by buying a dreamcatcher or those $10 Cotton tapestries or whatever autism, etc. . .buying a pet rock or something because apparently she can't afford to pay for a cat on her own.

and

2. No, fuck Phil. He's a lying pigroach beggar. Of course he would make up a bunch of rambly bullshit to pretend she isn't giving him any money towards the housing expenses. He already rants for an hour everyday crying that people are hurting him because they think he doesn't need money, so he delivers a fucking double sermon everyday to remind people he really needs them to give him lots of money as fast as they are able. As if a shameless beggar like Phil wouldn't keep bringing up how much he needs money until she broke and just gave in. She's a cardboard doormat. As if he'd let her buy him random T-shirts and stuffed animals if she wasn't giving him money, he would just say 'That's nice, but I'd rather have the money' if he was actually hurting for money and she wasn't giving him any. Kat's never said a word about not giving him money, it's all come from Phil's dirty whore mouth.

It's all speculation on my part, I really have no idea WTF is going on in that house :lol: I just try to keep straight the bullshit stories Phil has claimed, and what he's slipped up about that completely contradicts the bullshit he's selling, so that people know what the exact story from Phil is so they can poke holes and provide their own opinion on it.
 
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Potential new lore dropping in the blackgout stream. Not sure how much of her renting+criminal history has been dropped yet.

What do you mean? What was potential new lore?

Any new remarks Phil drops about Kat is worth noting. He's still pretending that her history and identity has been kept confidential. It's interesting to know how much he knows we know, ya know?
 
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