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Between season webisodes were a big thing back in the 00s for action shows. They were universally awful and I don't think anyone ever gave a damn about them (even diehard fans of the shows), so I'm surprised to see CBS revive them for Star Trek.

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Yeah, back in the late 00s/very early 10s there were even a few attempts and plans to start off new series/franchises using the webisode format. I memba reading some shit about a Crossed webisode series in the works and am rather thankful that never came to pass, and the format has mostly died off now. Seriously it is just the most blatant excuse for producers to be ultra cheap and ultra lazy in maintaining control of a franchise there is.
 
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First details on the Picard show. It sounds like it is picking up from the Unification arc in TNG which could be interesting if handled well.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...rts-picard-series-reveals-new-details-1174452
That sounds fucking awful. Why must these faggots insist that the stupid fucking reboot movies are canon and work that dumb bullshit into the series? Christ, just retcon everything and pretend the reboots never existed.
Romulus being gone doesn't really bug me, but I'm not sure why that would have such a large impact on Picard. Did he have some special connection with the Romulans that I'm not remembering? (I'm not counting Nemesis because it was horse shit.)
 
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Romulus being gone doesn't really bug me, but I'm not sure why that would have such a large impact on Picard. Did he have some special connection with the Romulans that I'm not remembering? (I'm not counting Nemesis because it was horse shit.)
Well when you set aside the Borg, the Romulans were pretty much the main enemy group of the TNG era* due to number of appearances and impact on the show, and given he was the main diplomacy fapper of the Star Trek Captains, its plausible he would put a great deal of emotional stock in to turning the federation's greatest rival and enemy into an ally, and having these efforts blown out the water thanks to a superdupernova and the late delivery of cosmic menstruation would probably piss him off more than when Wesley Crusher threw a Picard family themed BBQ for his birthday.

*some would say even counting the Borg, who were more of an "apocalyptic force" kind of enemy, the Romulans were the true "nemesis" of the era
 
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Romulus being gone doesn't really bug me, but I'm not sure why that would have such a large impact on Picard. Did he have some special connection with the Romulans that I'm not remembering? (I'm not counting Nemesis because it was horse shit.)
Now that I think about it, they're going to use it as an excuse to wedge Sarek into the show to tie it in with Discovery. Picard mind-melded with Sarek and had some residual katra or something going on and there were some hints in the show and spin-off media that he went on to have a diplomatic career post-Enterprise and picked up Spock's efforts. So yeah, get ready for more Spock and a tenuous connection to Michael Burnham.

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Romulus being gone doesn't really bug me, but I'm not sure why that would have such a large impact on Picard. Did he have some special connection with the Romulans that I'm not remembering? (I'm not counting Nemesis because it was horse shit.)
Maybe not personally impactful things, but you had several episodes where you could see the potential of a Federation/Romulan alliance. Take for instance the Romulan commander or whatever in the episode The Chase who privately confessed to Picard how he was actually pleased that almost all the species in Trek have a common ancestor (unlike the Klingons and Cardassians who reed at that). There's also The Defector with Jarok, who, after the birth of his daughter, feared that another war with the Federation would destroy the Romulan Empire. He commited suicide in the end, knowing that his own child will consider him an enemy of the Empire, but it brought Picard hope that there were more Romulans out there who wanted peace with the Federation. And I know you don't care for Nemesis, but this was Picard closest to a (iirc) high-ranking Romulan being openly friendly to him (and the Federation).

Basically, the Romulan angle isnt too bad, there is imho enough background to it in relation to Picard. But I agree with @JULAY that making the destruction of Romulus canon is a bad move. Personally, I fear that it takes out the drama and progress that Picard (and Sisko, really) made with the Romulans and forces the later into a position where they can't go head-to-head with the Federation.
 
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making the destruction of Romulus canon is a bad move
True and I can already see the cheap social commentary for the Picard spin-off ("Romulan refugees welcome").

Could someone list all the flaws of Star Trek Discovery for me?
It might take some time, maybe more than what the writers have spent on the actual show.
 
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It must be more than that.

Professional Critics on Rotten Tomatoes think it's good, after all.

Well you could start with SFDebris' reviews episode by episode:
https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/c101.php

The last one and season 1 review will be this Saturday I think, but a buddy of mine who's a patron showed me the early release. A lot of it can be boiled down to:
  1. Instead of being an ensemble piece, the show HEAVILY focuses on Burnham. She is the star. This works against it then if you just don't care about or like her character.
  2. It explains things too early with Burnham rather than leaving some mystery that might intrigue the audience and get them interested.
  3. Some changes depend on how you feel about characters. Like I'm not thrilled with Harry Mudd now becoming a multiple count murderer.
  4. A lot of story choices just make little sense. i.e. At the end, Captain Lorca is killed while Empress Yeoh (sorry, can't remember the character's name) is "rescued" from an explosion. The reasons why? Are very silly. It's like if Return of the Jedi had Lando tossed down the reactor core and emperor Palpatine rescued by Luke. To quote my buddy: "Everyone keeps asking why without noticing that Lorca is a white male and the empress is an asian female. Maybe..."
I'm also just pissed that they talk all about how this is like some new advancement for black females on the show, when nobody points out that the first female captain we ever saw on screen was Geordi's mom! (who is black) It's the star trek made by and for people that don't like or watch star trek. You could call it Babylon 5: Discovery and it would work just as well.
 
https://youtu.be/FFWRiAmB52Y

Update on the lawsuit. I hope they lose. It looks like they basically just copied and pasted someone else’s ideas.

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Star Trek Discover does that thing where the protagonist goes rogue and breaks all the rules in order to get shit done and the audience supports her because they know she's right. Except in Discovery the audience doesn't like her, she's not right about anything, she just fucks shit up worse, and then she suffers no consequences but is instead constantly rewarded for her insubordination and massive fuckups.
 
A lot of story choices just make little sense. i.e. At the end, Captain Lorca is killed while Empress Yeoh (sorry, can't remember the character's name) is "rescued" from an explosion. The reasons why? Are very silly. It's like if Return of the Jedi had Lando tossed down the reactor core and emperor Palpatine rescued by Luke. To quote my buddy: "Everyone keeps asking why without noticing that Lorca is a white male and the empress is an asian female. Maybe..."
My theory is that the showrunner duo (Gretchen Berg and Aaron Harberts who got fired after being accused of acting like crazies, yelling at their writers in the writing room etc.) hated the character of Lorca when they got the gig after Fuller's departure and wanted the character gone. It's all in the writing, the way things happened in that Mirror episode. He says that he wants to "make the Terran Empire glorious again" (yes, they really made him say that) and then gets stabbed in the back by Emperor Georgiou and... Burnham is standing in front of him, watching and doing nothing while his body falls through the trapdoor.
There are A LOT of questionable choices that make no sense in terms of narrative like their handling of Lorca, MirrorGeorgiou written as a good character despite being "literally worse than Hitler" and brought into the prime universe by Burnham and was never arrested or detained by the Federation, the female klingorc is also portrayed in a positive way even though she raped and tortured another klingorc. The season one finale was quite disturbing as nothing happening on screen made any sense. It's not really a surprise that the show is awfully written, the entire writing room and the showrunners aren't science fiction writers, one of the previous showrunners worked on a CW teen girl drama.

The problem with the show is that it's all about Michael Burnham and how smart and strong she is. There's always a scene in every episode where a background character doesn't trust Burnham but by the end of the episode he apologizes and praises Burnham for being the smartest one. Saru is guilty of that, they made him flip-flop several times early in the show.
I think I talked previously about a scene where Burnham, the Klingorc and Saru are on a planet, the Klingon wants to know more about Saru's species and guess who got to do the exposition? Burnham, while Saru is standing with them.

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Well you could start with SFDebris' reviews episode by episode:
https://sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/c101.php

The last one and season 1 review will be this Saturday I think, but a buddy of mine who's a patron showed me the early release. A lot of it can be boiled down to:
  1. Instead of being an ensemble piece, the show HEAVILY focuses on Burnham. She is the star. This works against it then if you just don't care about or like her character.
  2. It explains things too early with Burnham rather than leaving some mystery that might intrigue the audience and get them interested.
  3. Some changes depend on how you feel about characters. Like I'm not thrilled with Harry Mudd now becoming a multiple count murderer.
  4. A lot of story choices just make little sense. i.e. At the end, Captain Lorca is killed while Empress Yeoh (sorry, can't remember the character's name) is "rescued" from an explosion. The reasons why? Are very silly. It's like if Return of the Jedi had Lando tossed down the reactor core and emperor Palpatine rescued by Luke. To quote my buddy: "Everyone keeps asking why without noticing that Lorca is a white male and the empress is an asian female. Maybe..."
I'm also just pissed that they talk all about how this is like some new advancement for black females on the show, when nobody points out that the first female captain we ever saw on screen was Geordi's mom! (who is black) It's the star trek made by and for people that don't like or watch star trek. You could call it Babylon 5: Discovery and it would work just as well.
Actually, the first black female captain was in Star Trek 4, after that there was Captain Tryla Scott in Conspiracy. Also, the supernova destroying Romulus is the most recent canonical event in the prime timeline, only connected to the recent movies by Nero and Spock getting pulled into that universe.

Discovery still sucks ass.
 
My theory is that the showrunner duo (Gretchen Berg and Aaron Harberts who got fired after being accused of acting like crazies, yelling at their writers in the writing room etc.) hated the character of Lorca when they got the gig after Fuller's departure and wanted the character gone. It's all in the writing, the way things happened in that Mirror episode. He says that he wants to "make the Terran Empire glorious again" and then gets stabbed in the back by Emperor Georgiou and... Burnham is standing in front of him, watching and doing nothing while his body falls through the trapdoor.
There are A LOT of questionable choices that make no sense in terms of narrative like their handling of Lorca, MirrorGeorgiou written as a good character despite being "literally worse than Hitler" and brought into the prime universe by Burnham and was never arrested and detained by the Federation, the female klingorc is also portrayed in a positive way even though she raped and tortured another klingorc. The season one finale was quite disturbing as nothing happening on screen made any sense. It's not really a surprise that the show is awfully written, the entire writing room and the showrunners aren't science fiction writers, one of the previous showrunners worked on a CW teen girl drama.

The problem with the show is that it's all about Michael Burnham and how smart and strong she is. There's always a scene in every episode where a background character doesn't trust Burnham but by the end of the episode he apologizes and praises Burnham for being the smartest one.
I think I talked about a scene here where Burnham, the Klingorc and Saru are on a planet, the Klingon wants to know more about Saru's species and guess who got to do the exposition? Burnham, while Saru is standing with them.

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Reading your post and that screenshot brought to mind this bit i read recently:
Actual events don’t align with the Rhodes-Obama rhetoric. Vladimir Putin, frustratingly, keeps failing to be bent by the Arc of History (™) and doing whatever he wants, seizing Crimea and abetting Bashar al-Assad. Perhaps he notices the nonstop signaling from the White House that there’s a new sheriff in town, and said sheriff thinks crime-fighters have been way too tough on outlaws. “The error that we may have made is Putin doesn’t seem to pursue Russia’s national interests. He pursues Putin’s interests,” Rhodes says. In other words, surprise! — Putin doesn’t share a liberal American Democrat’s vision about what’s best for Russia. Only liberal American Democrats would need seven and a half years to figure this out. Power, riding in the back of a car, marvels at Russia’s naughtiness: “If they’re allowed to bully they just bully more.” Funny how that works. Kerry, after Russia breaks the ceasefire in Aleppo in 2016: “It’s just so frustrating because we really had an agreement that could have worked. And unfortunately we have some people who didn’t want to cooperate.”​
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I'm also just pissed that they talk all about how this is like some new advancement for black females on the show, when nobody points out that the first female captain we ever saw on screen was Geordi's mom! (who is black) It's the star trek made by and for people that don't like or watch star trek. You could call it Babylon 5: Discovery and it would work just as well.
There's another thing that pissed me off too about the whole "First woman" thing is that even though Star Trek Enterprise is the only series that they respect, STD has gone their way to erase some of the canon so they could hype up Georgiou. There's a scene where they show a list of decorated captains in a weird order, April, Archer, Decker, Georgiou and Pike. They've ignored Erika Hernandez, the "actual" first female Captain.

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