Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

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He was massively unlikeable in this stream

https://www.stream.me/archive/thera...h-loomer-insanity-gillette-cuckery/3qBNRxZjq6

Unfortunately he kept pulling the 'all the literature agrees with me on this point, the only people who argue are Nazis/triggered/teenagers/some other random undesirable category' and mostly got away with it.

It was pretty maddening to listen to, but in an odd way it was a good show because you're rooting for one of Ralph's retarded audience to dig up some research that contradicts his claims. And every so often one of them does.

Basically it's like watching a lion face off against hyenas.
 
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Part of the issue is that he's fairly good at steering the conversation away from his personal positions and beliefs on things and people don't take issue with it.

He even states at the end of the stream that he's an egoist. His ethics are entirely based on his personal desires, like many people, but they just aren't able to articulate it because they haven't spent years skimming Wikipedia articles on philosophy.

You need someone trained in academic philosophy to get beyond his intentional obfuscation (you don't know the difference between descriptive and normative claims? You're subhuman!). Interestingly enough, he didn't even know what abductive reasoning is, which is a freshman year undergrad concept.
 
Part of the issue is that he's fairly good at steering the conversation away from his personal positions and beliefs on things and people don't take issue with it.

He even states at the end of the stream that he's an egoist. His ethics are entirely based on his personal desires, like many people, but they just aren't able to articulate it because they haven't spent years skimming Wikipedia articles on philosophy.

You need someone trained in academic philosophy to get beyond his intentional obfuscation (you don't know the difference between descriptive and normative claims? You're subhuman!). Interestingly enough, he didn't even know what abductive reasoning is, which is a freshman year undergrad concept.
When he argues, he has no real position, he always changes it to the point where unless you get into the intellectual philosophy aspect (which most people find both incredibly boring/difficult to understand) you end up either agreeing or flatly saying he's wrong. He gets away with it because there is no moderation in the debates, no one to call him out on it and tell him to cut that shit out.

This is the kind of guy who is frankly a waste of time to argue with, who always argues in bad faith. He claims/states he's an egoist, and his desires change at a whim so that he can appear to win the argument. So long as his fanbase says he wins (re:always) then it's a win for him. I get the impression that you can never have a nice argument with him. You could not drink a beer with him and shoot the shit on politics without him being an insufferable cunt.
 
about incest)

low-iq lemon would ban incest over its possible repercussions but not guns.

"the price of freedom (of incest( is retarded kids" and the price of the 2nd amendment is mass shootings. low-iq ppl like Dick will say "it's different" without stating why

CRP makes up some psychological profile on destiny and tries to be big brained and diagnose them as a disingenuous

incest is gross but I wouldn't ban it and destiny is still gay
 
I'm not fan of destiny but why are a bunch the people he debates seemingly literally retarded individuals who also seem to be like, relatively well known.

Like I seen a video just then where he's like "I think incest is neutral, but I don't defend inbreeding" And somehow the person he's debating eventually takes away from that "Incest is wrong because you can't do inbreeding without incest" Which is like literally retarded backwards reasoning. I can pretty much condemn whatever I want with this weird frigging reasoning.
 
You can also legitimize anything from egoist reasoning.
And you can make it look like the smarter choice if your opponents have the downs or something.

My point is, there are PLENTY of holes in Destiny's reasoning. I just find it so dumb that half the people he talks to have the brainpower of a twitch thot.
 
There is no point to Destiny's reasoning, because there are no foundations or responsbility to his reasons and he actively tries to prevent the formation of any such foundations.

That other people are sometimes rétards in how they confront him about it does not make him look like the smarter choice, because as you say, there are plenty of holes in his reasoning. It's already clear from anyone that watched two or three destiny "debates" that he will not let himself be pinned down on practically anything, even something that wouldn't be bad for him (like agreeing with ralph on health care).
 
I'm talking mostly from what a casual viewer would think.

I don't know, but it was jon tron that started this trend of destiny finding dumb people to debate right? And had him fall into his shtick of always pressing against the others views. Or did he do that before then?
 
about incest)

low-iq lemon would ban incest over its possible repercussions but not guns.

"the price of freedom (of incest( is exceptional kids" and the price of the 2nd amendment is mass shootings. low-iq ppl like Dick will say "it's different" without stating why

The problem with this line of thinking is that it ignores any sort of cost-benefit analysis. For example, for some people, the benefits for the 2nd Amendment outweigh the costs. However, for that same person, the benefits for allowing (legally and socially) incest to take place do not outweigh the costs.

The problem with Destiny's style of argumentation, in which he extrapolates into other topics to test a person's logical consistency is that ignores this line of thinking. The people who debate him only come across as contradicting themselves because of the way he frames his arguments. If someone says they do not support incest because of its negative repercussions, Destiny then strawmans that as them being against anything that has negative repercussions, rather than the negative repercussions outweighing the positive ones. It also helps him avoid actually talking about incest directly - he admittedly uses it as a provocative tool to elicit discussion on moral systems, but I doubt he'd be able to defend his view on incest if he was forced to talk about it directly.

Destiny's line of thinking is that people should be able to do what they please so long as it does not harm others (such as drinking, for example). It's a standard line of libertarian thinking but it fails to acknowledge that actions do not exist in a vacuum, and how society treats certain actions has wide reaching repercussions. A society which permits "harmless" incest will still have higher amounts of "harmful" incest than a society which condemns incest outright. Likewise, a society which permits responsible drinking will still have a higher case of drunk driving incidents than a society that condemns it outright. How you reconcile these two points (which is something Destiny fails to do, as he seems to think only in absolutes) is that the cost of "harmful" incest can outweigh the benefits of "harmless" incest, whereas the cost of drunk driving accidents may not out weigh the benefits of responsible drinking.

His style of argumentation of just extrapolating a person's reasoning and applying it to other situations has been around since the ancient Greeks. It's really not anything special or high IQ, and it honestly baffles me how a lot of the people who debate him (like that Zoom guy on the Killstream) fail to pick up on it. If anything, it makes any incest debate Destiny has a painful slog because of how ill equipped so many people are. Like I can guarantee if you put him up against someone with an understanding of ethics and rhetoric that extends beyond just wikipedia articles, Destiny would be pummeled. But eh, I guess I shouldn't really expect much from autistic pissing matches on the Internet.
 
Destiny banned me from his server. For wrong think. Like he doesn't like people who think differently so he gets retards. The only person his fans didn't call a retard was talking about killing Nazis and anarco-communism. He attracts tards and liberals he doesn't support echo chambers directly but he enjoys it and has his fans shout people down. But who fucking cares he's 5,8 supports censorship and incest and is also kinda gay.
 
The problem with Destiny's style of argumentation, in which he extrapolates into other topics to test a person's logical consistency is that ignores this line of thinking. The people who debate him only come across as contradicting themselves because of the way he frames his arguments. If someone says they do not support incest because of its negative repercussions, Destiny then strawmans that as them being against anything that has negative repercussions, rather than the negative repercussions outweighing the positive ones. It also helps him avoid actually talking about incest directly - he admittedly uses it as a provocative tool to elicit discussion on moral systems, but I doubt he'd be able to defend his view on incest if he was forced to talk about it directly.
This is why in my view it is a complete waste of time arguing with him. Unless you are very careful in nailing him down to the exact position which he is supposed to be defending, which is a pain in the ass against someone who machineguns point after point, or flip it so that you are the one asking question after question, you will struggle to get a straight answer out of him.

Combine that with a rabid fan base that will always agree with him/see him as incredibly smart and has on record organized mass down votes and mass flagging against people making fun of him, and it's basically a waste of time.

I find debates are done to either a) convince your opponent of your point, b) convince an audience of your point, c) test the strength of your position and arguments, or d) make your opponent look like a fucking idiot. You can't do a, b or c with him. Your only option is d) and anything else imo is a waste of time.
 
Is it just me or does Destiny come off as an even more exceptional Ben Shekelpiro when he "debates" people? Just try and talk fast as shit and leave your opponent scrabbling for rebuttals. Granted there are plenty of differences between the two, like Ben doesn't openly advocate fucking young relatives...even though the books his fellow chosen follow are all bout dat life.
 
Destiny this time has a debate with Jesse Lee Peterson

Unless there's a moderator that forces him to stick to his point and not gish gallop all over the place, the only debate method you should ever do is just abuse sound clips of him saying disgusting shit and then go full Naked Ape and make him eat his own fucking medicine.

This midget was a literal who for me until this thread, so he ain't getting you views.
 
New Destiny this time has a debate with Jesse Lee Peterson

Why does this guy speak like he's got severe brain damage?
Actually, one might ask that about either of them....

but seriously, did Peterson suffer a stroke, or something to that effect?
 
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