Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

It goes without saying but most people can't make a living with comics, especially since even if they put their heart and soul into it, the monetary investment is simply not there. However, this goes for any medium in the art industry.

Usually, it's thoughtful to be considerate of professionals artists since, despite their mostly unfavorable condition, they still make great artwork, still are decent people, and still receptive towards what their audience wants. Not so for so-called professional comic book artists that claim that fans should see interacting with them as a privilege, produce mediocre work at best, and act unprofessional on social media by pushing political agendas that most people hate.

Drain the swamp and rebuild it with people who want to make money.
 
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I got suspended for posting this image. Someone else sent it to me, I thought it was funny. RIP LNC.
 
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No, I thought for sure that would get my account suspended but it was the image of Ethan on his throne and Mike on a leash that got me.
I have to admit, I've been kinda bored of Comicsgate lately, but you somehow managed to be more entertaining than even Melissa Morgue's shenanigans, because it's spergs like you that keep the autism hamster wheel going.

Now run sperg, run like the wind, we need more hilarity. :story:
 
The modern Western comics industry won't survive past 2020.

Calling it now.
Why wouldn't it? Marvel and DC are both owned by mega-corporations that aren't going anywhere, and it's quite obvious that they don't really care if their comics units make money or not. They'll probably keep their cape comics on life support in perpetuity just to keep all their trademarks nice and fresh.
 
Why wouldn't it? Marvel and DC are both owned by mega-corporations that aren't going anywhere, and it's quite obvious that they don't really care if their comics units make money or not. They'll probably keep their cape comics on life support in perpetuity just to keep all their trademarks nice and fresh.
I think he's more saying that Marvel and DC will stop producing comics and convert to a licensing-only company where they farm out their works to different companies. As far as cape comics are concerned, that's the future we have to look forward to.
 
I think he's more saying that Marvel and DC will stop producing comics and convert to a licensing-only company where they farm out their works to different companies. As far as cape comics are concerned, that's the future we have to look forward to.

Honestly if they just shut down everything, fired all these shitheads, and hired some hacks in Japan or even Korea or the Philippines or Vietnam or some shit, they'd do better.
 
Surprising no one that was paying attention sales were down for 2018. Numbers are also out for December if anybody cares http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2018/2018-12.html
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On to drama. Was anybody paying attention to 'comicbookhutt'? From what I've gathered he appeared on a EVS stream but may have been more on the 'engeltine' side of comicsgate. I remember the name for inserting himself into the twitter wars but that's it. Anyway Cecil reviews Trump space force by Tim Lim (Cecil is still in the book for whoever asked) review is; good product, not for me, Tim's a nice guy but he's also not a good guy. Pretty tame considering the circumstances check it yourself.
Hutt makes a ~30min video about the injustice. I've put the main points in a spoiler because everybody should watch at least a little
Prays for Cecil and calls him a drunken alcoholic bum, REEEs about calling Lim 'not a good guy', how Tim is a goodguy doctor, demands an apology from Cecil and EVS, claims he will get his subscribers to superchat EVS and Cecil demanding answers (LOL), prints out pages of tweets, calls CGers Scam artists - says Mitch Breitwiser spent the money on pretty dresses for Elizabeth and demands pictures of signed Jawbreakers books. Hutt wears a mask to protect his family but Cecil only does it because fat and ugly, Hutt has heaps of power, is a big channel only looking out for the little guy and everyone will be talking about this (good job there) and finishes by sucking off Jon Del Arroz. Now add in a bunch of pauses, uhs and his accent...
Somebody re-upped this shining beacon of autism here.
Cecil responds by parodying and roasting the guy. If you can't stand the Hutts autism video this will give you the overview
Hutt entered DFE mode, nuking both his channel and his twitter account
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Surprising no one that was paying attention sales were down for 2018. Numbers are also out for December if anybody cares http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2018/2018-12.html

None of those numbers are particularly significant other than the graphic novel numbers. They're dismal, of course, but they've been dismal for years. The toys numbers aren't great but probably have to do with things that have nothing to do with comics.

The dollars versus units thing does seem to be consistent with the general idea that the shrinking comics industry is squeezing more money out of fewer buyers, but it isn't like some sudden catastrophe even with CG factored in.

Not that this is any cause for optimism. It could just be that the market has found a bottom where even "professionals" sending out literal pictures of their assholes to people isn't enough to drive anyone away who wasn't already driven away by the absolute garbage being sold.
 
The modern Western comics industry won't survive past 2020.

Calling it now.

Would a model like what this bookstore does possibly work in the comic book sphere?

Borderland Books

Our plan to remain open via our Sponsorship program has been very successful thus far and we are very grateful to all the sponsors who have supported us in the past three years. But, it is once again time to gather the sponsors who will support us in 2019. As in previous years, we will need a minimum of 300 sponsors by March 31st if we are to remain open.

They've got 300 people each paying $100/year simply so the bookstore can remain open and cover costs. These "sponsors" get nothing beyond some minor perks. They also got a bunch of customers together to loan them $2.2 million dollars so they could buy a building. Yeah, there's a lot of money sloshing around San Fran, but it is also expensive as hell to do business there. Maybe a similar, though more modest program, might work elsewhere. Dunno. Seems crazy to me. But there it is, as a thing.

Saved by reader sponsors, Borderlands Books now aims to buy a building
By Laura Wenus | Oct 18, 2017 | Business, Featured, Front Page, Mobile, Newsletter, Today's Mission, Valencia Street | 0

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Borderlands Books on Valencia Street
When Alan Beatts announced in early 2015 that he would close his science fiction, mystery, and horror bookstore Borderlands, his customers did something extraordinary: They refused to let it happen.

At a meeting that packed the Borderlands Cafe next door to the bookstore, they mourned the loss – and then made suggestions ranging from the tame to the bizarre to save it.

They didn’t want to lose this bookstore and the community it harbored. Instead they suggested, and immediately offered up the money for, a sponsorship program that would make up for the widening gap between revenue and costs of running the business.

Emboldened by that experience, Beatts has decided to pursue another idea that seems slightly mad. He’s buying a building, and to finance it, he had 21 days to raise $1.9 million in loans from bookstore customers.

He’s now eight days and $500,000 in – with another $300,000 pending.

“The only reason I have the nerve to do something like asking people to lend me $1.9 million – a dude who runs a bookstore – is the way that the sponsorship program worked out.” he said. “I have no idea if this is going to work out, but it beats figuring we’ll be out of business in 2025, so I might as well take a stab at it.”

Back in 2016, Beatts floated the idea of buying a building to secure a permanent future for the bookstore.

“Unless something really astonishing and perhaps almost biblical happens in San Francisco, we will not be able to pay rent in San Francisco,” he told sponsors at the time.

More recently, the idea became more concrete. He found a building.

It is at 1373 Haight Street. Lenders weren’t terribly interested in loaning Beatts and his bookstore more than a million dollars, so he’s turned to readers.

Already, some have stepped up with loan offers of $100,000 and more.

Daunting as it may seem for a small business to crowdfund a real estate purchase in 21 days, this is by no means a do-or-die affair. If the deadline isn’t met, the purchase will fall through, but Beatts still has about three years left on the bookstore lease on Valencia Street and eight years on the cafe.

“It’s either buy [a building] or shoehorn the bookstore into the cafe space,” he said.

But the possibilities opened up by property ownership are inarguably tantalizing – not as a moneymaking scheme, but to bookworms of all stripes who simply want to see the medium of “ink on dead trees” as Beatts puts it, continue to be available in San Francisco. And the sponsorship numbers – some 900 the first year, around 630 last year, and 692 this year – are one indicator of how much customers value the place, not just for its wares.

“I’m doing all of this because I want to run my bookstore,” Beatts said. “In bookselling, just like in writing, winning consists of being able to keep doing it, and not having to go do something else,” he said.

In the short term, if the deal is sealed, Borderlands could also run out its lease on Valencia while renting the commercial space on Haight Street to someone testing their business model who is looking for a short term lease.

Either way, the cafe next to the bookstore – a self-sufficient business – will remain open, since its lease doesn’t expire until 2025.

In all, the prospect of buying a building was sweet enough to prompt a bookseller with 20 years of business under his belt, 16 of them on Valencia Street, to leave the Mission for Haight Street.

The shifting nature of Valencia Street has not escaped him.

“I think it’s in trouble,” Beatts said. “Valencia used to be a really nice mix of neighborhood serving businesses.”

Still, it’s not easy to leave the Mission.

“It’s been wonderful to be here, and I hope we do get to move to Haight and it gets to be wonderful there too,” Beatts said.
 
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