Disaster Anti-vaccine advocates appointed to Minnesota autism council after measles outbreak - Yes, you've read that right

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A nurse prepares to administer the measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine as well as a vaccine used to help prevent the diseases of diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, and polio at Children's Primary Care Clinic in Minneapolis, MN, Friday, April 28, 2017.

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Officials in Minnesota have appointed anti-vaccine advocates to a newly formed state council on autism, sparking controversy in the wake of a record measles outbreak in the state.

State senator Jim Abeler formed the MN Autism Council last fall to address issues surrounding autism, including “treatment, educational options, employment opportunities, independent living, and more.” While about one in 59 children in the US are diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder, the rate in Minnesota is one in 42.

Though the council is not designed to take up the issue of vaccination, it has been ensnared in controversy due to the anti-vaccine sentiments it includes, according to a report in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. At least two of the council’s more than 30 members are skeptical of vaccine safety and oppose compulsory immunizations. One of those skeptical members, Wayne Rohde, was one of three initial people Abeler appointed to the council. Rohde was charged with helping to shape the council and with picking other members.

Rohde is a cofounder of the Vaccine Safety Council of Minnesota, which promotes the notion that vaccines are harmful despite extensive scientific data indicating that they're safe. He is also as an executive for Health Choice, which advocates that chronic health conditions in children are caused by “unhealthy choices” including “side effects of vaccine choices.” Another council member, Patti Carroll, is also part of both groups.

Rohde has argued to the Star Tribune that the ties aren’t relevant. “We’re not about causation within the council. The council is all about how to deal and help those who are afflicted, and their families and those who provide services,” he said.

But autism advocates and other council members disagree. “Even if it’s not something that’s discussed or that a policy is going to come out of, giving them this large contingency on this council is dangerous. It’s giving credence to a theory that’s false,” council member Noah McCourt told the Star Tribune. McCourt is an autism advocate who also serves on the Minnesota Governor’s Council on Developmental Disabilities.

The state of Minnesota has been a battleground for anti-vaccine sentiments. For years, anti-vaccine advocates had pounced on fears of autism there, largely in the state’s Somali immigrant communities. This fueled a measles outbreak in 2017, which was largest the state had seen in decades.

I didn't know Minnesota is a satellite state of California. Are they always this retarded?

 

[Shugo]

Your rights end where the safety of others begins.

I agree, let's grab every fucker with AIDS, hold him down, and give him a lethal injection. You have to be a retard if you don't want the government the power to shoot up into your veins. Their rights end to protect me from their plague. My safety trumps their right to live.

Do you really think it's safe to live in a society where you can contract fucking HIV just because the piece of shit you slept with didn't tell you and ruin your life? My safety trumps their rights. Safety can only be achieved by pre-emptively stopping threats by treading on everyone.

We could eradicate AIDS tomorrow with this plan. Why the fuck do you want to live on a planet with AIDS? It's retards like you holding the government back from perfecting the human race and ending such diseases.

And you don't know how vaccines work, apparently. They don't inject you with cyanide

I never said vaccines were cyanide, I said I agreed with you that the government should have the power to inject people against their will. That is only if they're giving you the lethal injection. You're the one who quoted a post and said you support the government forcing whatever they want into my veins.

 

[Antipathy]

I agree, let's grab every fucker with AIDS, hold him down, and give him a lethal injection. You have to be an exceptional individual if you don't want the government the power to shoot up into your veins. Their rights end to protect me from their plague. My safety trumps their right to live.

Do you really think it's safe to live in a society where you can contract fucking HIV just because the piece of shit you slept with didn't tell you and ruin your life? My safety trumps their rights. Safety can only be achieved by pre-emptively stopping threats by treading on everyone.

We could eradicate AIDS tomorrow with this plan. Why the fuck do you want to live on a planet with AIDS? It's exceptional individuals like you holding the government back from perfecting the human race and ending such diseases.



I never said vaccines were cyanide, I said I agreed with you that the government should have the power to inject people against their will. That is only if they're giving you the lethal injection. You're the one who quoted a post and said you support the government forcing whatever they want into my veins.

Wow, that slope was so slippery and full of straw that I can't even begin to understand what kind of libertarian/hippie crystal healing crack you've been snorting. It's like a mixture of Rand and Chinese snake oil sales pitches tossed in a blender. There's a difference between preventing diseases and flat out murdering people. It's also a felony in most states (bar California, but let's ignore those tards) to knowingly infect someone with AIDS, so shut up. Foaming at the mouth fuckhole extremists who violently oppose science or clutch at their money at the expense of everyone else are responsible for 300% of my daily allocated allowance of bullshit and their backwards propaganda is the reason for easily preventable diseases coming back.

Have fun in the iron lung due to your polio, fuckwad. You're tossing away things that one hundred years ago people would flat out pay anything for because of your elaborate power fantasies where you, the Ubermensch, are far superior to those government baddies and their evil Vaccines of Autism.

 

[Shugo]

It's also a felony in most states (bar California, but let's ignore those tards) to knowingly infect someone with AIDS, so shut up.

Yes, and it should be a crime to knowingly infect someone with the measles too, shouldn't we add that?

Why don't we just eradicate AIDS tomorrow? Are you anti-science?

Have fun dying of the AIDS plague, butt-fag. It's your fault we didn't end HIV.

Are you anti letting the government forcibly inject you and your children or not?

 

[Antipathy]

Yes, and it should be a crime to knowingly infect someone with the measles too, shouldn't we add that?

Why don't we just eradicate AIDS tomorrow? Are you anti-science?

Have fun dying of the AIDS plague, butt-fag. It's your fault we didn't end HIV.

Are you anti letting the government forcibly inject you and your children or not?

Indeed, it should be a crime to knowingly infect someone with measles. Not vaccinating your children is more or less allowing them to be infected with measles, so go into the jail cell, fuckoff. Giving your children horrible diseases is on the same level as beating or raping them.

As for AIDS, you're currently shitting AIDS all over this internet forum, so I can safely say that you're made of AIDS and therefore are a public health hazard. We should put a condom over you until you're not a threat anymore.

 

[Shugo]

Indeed, it should be a crime to knowingly infect someone with measles. Not vaccinating your children is more or less allowing them to be infected with measles, so go into the jail cell, fuckoff. Giving your children horrible diseases is on the same level as beating or raping them.

As for AIDS, you're currently shitting AIDS all over this internet forum, so I can safely say that you're made of AIDS and therefore are a public health hazard. We should put a condom over you until you're not a threat anymore.

So that's a "yes" the government should be allowed to forcibly inject me and my children? I am just trying to verify through all the death threats you're sending.

Do you always wish people who disagree with you die of horrible diseases? You really seem to hate anyone who doesn't want the government to have the power to shoot injections into my veins and my children's veins.

 

[Antipathy]

So that's a "yes" the government should be allowed to forcibly inject me and my children? I am just trying to verify through all the death threats you're sending.

It's a yes that the government should be allowed to stop horrible diseases, yes. Before you manage to shit this out with a further misunderstanding of vaccines or human rights, no this applies only to vaccines that work, and not to whatever the fuck chemicals you think are in vaccines.

Of course, you're not going to listen, so just keep reading your Rand and jacking it to the concept of a hypercapitalistic world without regulations where you'd undoubtedly be a slave in the mines, factories, or farms rather than one of the three Captains Of Industry who own and control everything.

 

[Autistsforuganda]

Why do the most autistic conspiracy theories be the most popular?

 

[Shugo]

whatever the fuck chemicals you think are in vaccines.

?????

Why do you keep saying that I believe chemicals are in vaccines or I think vaccines are dangerous? Just because I don't want to give someone else the power over what goes in and out of my veins?

Why do the most autistic conspiracy theories be the most popular?

Autism rates 1000% up since 1950

 

[Antipathy]

Why do the most autistic conspiracy theories be the most popular?

Because they play into people's narcissism and allow them to pretend that they are superhuman supergeniuses that outsmarted that nasty old government and its foul taxes.

?????

Why do you keep saying that I believe chemicals are in vaccines or I think vaccines are dangerous? Just because I don't want to give someone else the power over what goes in and out of my veins?



Autism rates 1000% up since 1950

A bloo bloo bloo don't tread on me is the first thing. You want horrible diseases over the government exercising its duty to protect the people, whatever. Sure, it's a corrupt inbred shitpit of a government because people sat back and didn't research or care before voting, thanks once again to people REEEE ing over the Villain Ideology Of The Day while those perpetrating it quietly made bank, but whatever.

As for autism rate, first of all, that 'study' was retracted by its own authors, secondly, that's not how autism works, you can't catch the autism, and finally, it's more likely due to a greater amount of people getting diagnosed, not more people having the condition.

Turing and Newton were probably autistic but were never actually diagnosed. If you know your history you can see people displaying these symptoms cropping up everywhere. It's not an epidemic of 'tism, it's an overdiagnosis problem.

 

[Shugo]

nasty old government and its foul taxes.

I agree, the only reason to distrust government and what they might be putting in my veins is because I'm resentful over taxes. There is no history of any governments, especially not the US government mass-sterilizing people without their knowledge or against their will. I trust any government official who talks to me and all government programs only have my best interest in mind.

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

Autism rates 1000% up since 1950

That's because in 1950 they called them "retards", and ever since they've taken to calling them "autistics".

As the autism rates went up 1000%, the retard rates went down 1000%.

Where do you figure all the retards went?

 

[Antipathy]

I agree, the only reason to distrust government and what they might be putting in my veins is because I'm resentful over taxes. There is no history of any governments, especially not the US government mass-sterilizing people without their knowledge or against their will. I trust any government official who talks to me and all government programs only have my best interest in mind.

And it's totally like all every government has ever done is totally just fuck over the people, and we should trust all of those wonderful corporations like Apple who never commit human rights abuses constantly, or those fascinatingly clean people like Trump who absolutely never would stoop so low as to use hundreds of undeclared laborers in construction projects, then stall them out in court so they never get paid. Learn what a vaccine is and realize that doctors =/= government and that maybe an institution isn't automatically evil.

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

I agree, the only reason to distrust government and what they might be putting in my veins is because I'm resentful over taxes. There is no history of any governments, especially not the US government mass-sterilizing people without their knowledge or against their will. I trust any government official who talks to me and all government programs only have my best interest in mind.

I'm against government-mandated vaccination, but I would like to see the nitwits who don't vaccinate themselves, or their children, held accountable for their idiotic decision not to vaccinate.

 

[Shugo]

Learn what a vaccine is and realize that doctors =/= government

Who do you think administered the sterilization programs in the US?

Ok, you can trust that the government won't ever commit mass sterilizations again, despite a long history ever since learning how to do it, but I won't.

we should trust all of those wonderful corporations like Apple

I've never advocated for giving Apple corporation the right to inject me with whatever they think is best for me, why are you bringing them up? All I'm against is the government shooting me up for my best interests, against my will.

held accountable for their idiotic decision not to vaccinate.

So do you want them put into ghettos so they can't harm the rest of us, do you want them put to death so they can't harm us, how would you like the people who don't want injections punished? A fine? Jail time?

 

[Antipathy]

I'm against government-mandated vaccination, but I would like to see the nitwits who don't vaccinate themselves, or their children, held accountable for their idiotic decision not to vaccinate.

Held accountable by whom, precisely?

Who do you think administered the sterilization programs in the US?

Ok, you can trust that the government won't ever commit mass sterilizations again, despite a long history ever since learning how to do it, but I won't.

Ah yes the eugenics movement in the 1920's, the grandma of all straw people related to the vaccines. Where do you link vaccines to forced sterilizations? Please inform me of that with as many Alex Jones quotes and homeopathy advertisements as you can shit out, thanks.

You see, there was this swell dude called Hitler who also liked the idea of eugenics and was afraid of something called Judeo-Bolshevism, otherwise known as Evil Ideology (That Doesn't Exist) Of The Week. After he decided to put his eugenics with his conspiracy theories and murderfucked several million people, the world decided mass genocide was a bad thing and said that they wouldn't do it again. And that's why you're also not allowed to wear swastikas and set Jews on fire while screaming Sieg Heil anymore.

Your conspiracy theories ring hollow. Obviously it's the hippies trying to enforce a genocide by re-introducing horrible diseases into the population in order to fuck trees more, and to do this they spread the idea that the government was sterilizing people with vaccines.

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

Held accountable by whom, precisely?

I'll volunteer.

A kick in the teeth would do the trick.

 

[GethN7]

Who do you think administered the sterilization programs in the US?

Ok, you can trust that the government won't ever commit mass sterilizations again, despite a long history ever since learning how to do it, but I won't.



I've never advocated for giving Apple corporation the right to inject me with whatever they think is best for me, why are you bringing them up? All I'm against is the government shooting me up for my best interests, against my will.



So do you want them put into ghettos so they can't harm the rest of us, do you want them put to death so they can't harm us, how would you like the people who don't want injections punished? A fine? Jail time?

Whenever I see stories about this sort of thing, I roll my eyes at the anti-vaxxers because they claim vaccines have horrible substances that can kill you that you can't consent to without knowing if they will kill you.

Well, funny thing about that, because everyone throughout history has had to ingest a substance we can't consent to and have no choice in that, in too pure a concentration, CAN kill you, but I don't see these people bitching about oxygen despite having an even better case against it.

 

[autism420]

Who do you think administered the sterilization programs in the US?

Ok, you can trust that the government won't ever commit mass sterilizations again, despite a long history ever since learning how to do it, but I won't.



I've never advocated for giving Apple corporation the right to inject me with whatever they think is best for me, why are you bringing them up? All I'm against is the government shooting me up for my best interests, against my will.



So do you want them put into ghettos so they can't harm the rest of us, do you want them put to death so they can't harm us, how would you like the people who don't want injections punished? A fine? Jail time?

You should kill yourself.

 

[Shugo]

Whenever I see stories about this sort of thing, I roll my eyes at the anti-vaxxers because they claim vaccines have horrible substances

What are you talking about? The US mass-sterilized blacks and other desirables on purpose for population control. I am not saying vaccines are sterilization, or that vaccines have horrible substances, why do people keep quoting me and saying that?

All I'm saying is the government shouldn't have the right to decide what goes into my bloodstream. This is because they have a history of sterilizing people they deem undesirable. I'm not making any statement on what's in vaccines or their effects on humans. Why are you putting words into my mouth and calling me anti-science and an "anti-vaxxer" when I'm not commenting on the safety of vaccines at all?

 

[kcbbq]

Someone's mad that they had autism shot into them.