TGWTG Hope Chapman / Jacob "Jack" Chapman / JesuOtaku - Self-loathing weaboo redneck. Blew her way to ANN gig. Goon and troon.

[Captain Manning]

To answer the whole thing about FMA and Brotherhood, the original anime was a traditional case of the anime going past the current point of the manga, with the OG author helping the crew come up with an original ending to their series. Later, Brotherhood came out and was a far more faithful adaptation of the manga, but it's widely agreed that the original FMA series' first 8-12 episodes are better if you're coming into the series for the first time. Brotherhood speeds through those episodes to get to the new content, so it's not a great entry point to the series.

They basically said as much in their review of it. However, because I saw Brotherhood fairly recently, I'm not really inclined to watch the original right now. I think they did okay job establishing many of the characters in Brotherhood, and the show... overall... was great.

Prediction: Shield Hero will be more popular than Promised Neverland out of a populist distaste of ANN.

No joke: Goblin Slayer was the most streamed anime of 2018 on Crunchyroll. They have a PDF that breaks it down by region.

https://za.ign.com/goblin-slayer/12...veals-fall-2018s-most-popular-anime-by-region

Given that the show was, IMHO, pretty average, I think more than a few people watched it as a means of giving the SJW chimpout the middle finger. Jacob apparently agrees, because of course he hated it.

EDIT: Goblin Slayer is not Isekai.

 

[Rihanna Ikari]

Prediction: Shield Hero will be more popular than Promised Neverland out of a populist distaste of ANN.

Promised Neverland actually has its own issues. The episode reviewer complains about the only black character of the cast incorporating racial stereotypes (and likely knocked it from an A to an A- just for this issue), and the discussion thread's already been cleaned up once for a racism argument.

Basically, you can't win. Everything is problematic. I don't know why these people still watch anime.

 

[Hatoful Dandy]

Basically, you can't win. Everything is problematic. I don't know why these people still watch anime.

Because even they realise in the back of their heads that woke cartoons aren't as good as they like to pretend they are online.

 

[Captain Manning]

Because even they realise in the back of their heads that woke cartoons aren't as good as they like to pretend they are online.

Hey, just you wait! Crunchyroll is totally gonna blow anime out of the water with High Guardian Spice! Woke white people will show the Japanese how it's done.

 

[Jaimas]

They basically said as much in their review of it. However, because I saw Brotherhood fairly recently, I'm not really inclined to watch the original right now. I think they did okay job establishing many of the characters in Brotherhood, and the show... overall... was great.



No joke: Goblin Slayer was the most streamed anime of 2018 on Crunchyroll. They have a PDF that breaks it down by region.

https://za.ign.com/goblin-slayer/12...veals-fall-2018s-most-popular-anime-by-region

Given that the show was, IMHO, pretty average, I think more than a few people watched it as a means of giving the SJW chimpout the middle finger. Jacob apparently agrees, because of course he hated it.

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EDIT: Goblin Slayer is not Isekai.

Goblin Slayer didn't do well because it gave SJWs the finger, it did well because it portrayed a legitimately interesting take on a side of adventuring one never really gives thought to, pairing it with a haunting look at someone who is honest-to-god legitimately psychologically unwell. You can sympathize with him because despite the fact that he's a murderous nut, he does the entire world a service with every Goblin he kills.

The whole fucking crux of the book is that every single person in his life knows his one-man campaign of gob-murder is destined to end with him either dead or crippled, and the entirety of the show centers around his companions gradually steering him towards letting others in, so he doesn't fucking kill himself in his crusade. An amazing soundtrack, a healthy dose of black humor, and some outstanding characterization were what rounded out the lot.

Also it's a setting where the Gods establish everything by playing D&D, which is hilarious.
The fucking title song even features "time to roll your d20" as a line in it.

The show's by no means perfect, but the characterization and setting sells it and the work's genuinely enjoyable, which puts it head and shoulders above many other works that aired that year. The fact that the whiny fuck brigade hates it is just gravy.

 

[Captain Manning]

@Jaimas

I thought this first season was pretty average. Sorry. I mean, if you want a good dark fantasy literally inspired by D&D, I'd recommend the 90 to 91 Lodoss OAV. That was the yardstick I was measuring it against while going in.

Average doesn't mean horrible though. I liked it enough to where I'd watch the second season, in the hopes that it improves. Since you mentioned the light novels, you've probably read some stuff that hasn't been animated yet.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Basically, you can't win. Everything is problematic. I don't know why these people still watch anime.

Anime's like a drug, the weak-willed get addicted and need outside intervention to be weaned off of it. A lot of weebs/otakus are noted to suffer from depression, and so anime's their anti-depressant drug. And then there's anime being 90% power fantasies, and when you have people who reject reality for their own, it's just a recipe for disaster and a source of lulz for spectators as well as headaches for creators. Luckily Japan mainly doesn't give a rat's ass and does whatever the fuck they want, though it's definitely starting to seep in (how many of them celebrated the firing of Kazuyoshi Yaginuma, for one thing?).

Like I guarantee you that if Evangelion was airing first-thing today, Hope and kin would be much more vicious toward it (just came to mind, has Hope ever spoken up about Devilman: Crybaby btw?), and the pressuring death threats and screeching to ban Hideaki Anno from the industry would probably legit drive him to suicide. But they wouldn't give a shit because of his show being "problematic".

 

[Jaimas]

@Jaimas

I thought this first season was pretty average. Sorry. I mean, if you want a good dark fantasy literally inspired by D&D, I'd recommend the 90 to 91 Lodoss OAV. That was the yardstick I was measuring it against while going in.

Average doesn't mean horrible though. I liked it enough to where I'd watch the second season, in the hopes that it improves. Since you mentioned the light novels, you've probably read some stuff that hasn't been animated yet.

I'd put it above average, but mostly because it's forced to rush things to fill the series quickly. Adaptation decay is always going to be a thing with works like it.

Also comparing anything to 1991's Lodoss isn't fair. That shit is gorgeous.

 

[Archeopthryx]

No one is watching it to "own the sjws" Goblin Slayer is legit good. Goblin Slayer is more relatable than Hope Chapman and that dude's mind got broken when goblins fucked up his whole village and mostly his sister's vagina. He's Batman if he's in D&D and not a millionaire.

Hope is just in the wrong industry since he seems to hate it so much now that it isn't going the way of his ideological leanings.

 

[Captain Manning]

Also comparing anything to 1991's Lodoss isn't fair. That shit is gorgeous.

Indeed, but it's the closest thing I know of to compare Goblin Slayer to because it satisfies both prongs of being dark fantasy and explicitly D&D inspired. The author even made mention in interviews that he was drawing inspiration from both Lodoss and D&D. The comparison is going to be inevitable.

I'll say that Goblin Slayer is unquestionably better than 1998 Lodoss TV though.

Just so I don't get flak for taking us off topic, Chapman is too much of a dumb shit to understand that Goblin Slayer isn't Isekai. I also very much doubt he's ever seen Lodoss or appreciates that the author is trying to revive its genre.

Hope is just in the wrong industry since he seems to hate it so much now that it isn't going the way of his ideological leanings.

And, God willing, it never will. One leg up the industry has is that the western market seems to be an afterthought, and Japanese could GAF what whiny SJW troons like Hope think.

 

[Archeopthryx]

Indeed, but it's the closest thing I know of to compare Goblin Slayer to because it satisfies both prongs of being dark fantasy and explicitly D&D inspired. The author even made mention in interviews that he was drawing inspiration from both Lodoss and D&D. The comparison is going to be inevitable.

I'll say that Goblin Slayer is unquestionably better than 1998 Lodoss TV though.

Just so I don't get flak for taking us off topic, Chapman is too much of a dumb shit to understand that Goblin Slayer isn't Isekai. I also very much doubt he's ever seen Lodoss or appreciates that the author is trying to revive its genre.



And, God willing, it never will. One leg up the industry has is that the western market seems to be an afterthought, and Japanese could GAF what whiny SJW troons like Hope think.

I'm not worried about anime changing to suit American taste. You know what determines what they make? Merch sales. Not even DVD sales. Toys, apparels, statues, and etc. Who are the biggest consumer outside of Japan? Other Asians. As long as Hope doesn't have the Figma and Nendoroid of Goblin Slayer on his shelf along with manga and the DVDs and other weeabs do, his opinion is less than shit. Americans love Goblin Slayer and if Hope has other weeab friends I bet some of them have ordered the action figure now.

He is in the wrong industry. If there is some sort of industry that capitalizes on SJWs he better hop on that. Fucking sell some Gillette blades to his fellow troons and he will find success over there.

 

[Jeanne d'Arc]

I'm not worried about anime changing to suit American taste. You know what determines what they make? Merch sales. Not even DVD sales...

He is in the wrong industry. If there is some sort of industry that capitalizes on SJWs he better hop on that. Fucking sell some Gillette blades to his fellow troons and he will find success over there.

And the funny thing about DVD/Blu-ray/merch sales outside of Japan? The Japanese don't count them as actual sales. Ordering from PlayAsia or Amazon JP as a westerner does not include your purchase on sales charts. The Japanese only give a fuck if a series REALLY makes it big in the US, see Pokemon or Naruto.

The Japanese don't bend their knees to westerners when it comes to entertainment. You as a westerner, bend yours. They're gonna keep making lolicon shit under major franchise tags like Fate/kaleid liner. They're gonna keep making gory fuckfests like Evangelion and Devilman: Crybaby and Berserk so long as it's what otakus want to see or if it just plain sells well. They don't give a fuck about politics in their entertainment for the most part.

 

[BuckBumble]

And, God willing, it never will. One leg up the industry has is that the western market seems to be an afterthought, and Japanese could GAF what whiny SJW troons like Hope think.

Eh that's not so guaranteed. The SAO guy cited overseas feedback as a reason for changing his writing style going forward. Granted that series is a Marty Stu mess in the first place so it might actually be an improvement.

 

[A Big Bumbling Black Man]

>Checking out an anime because terrible people can't stop talking about how it triggers them.

"tHaT's cRaZy!!!"

>Turning yourself into a pube-faced genderfreak just to trigger your parents.

"That's stunning and brave and if you disagree we'll just ban you from the internet."

Goblin Slayer is fantastic btw, thanks everyone who's defending it, and thankyou Hope for getting me interested in it.
Hey remember last year when Hope made an account here and posted about how massive her fictional balls were?
Now that was entertaining.

 

[Rihanna Ikari]

(just came to mind, has Hope ever spoken up about Devilman: Crybaby btw?)

Both Zac and Hope love Crybaby. I guess it's a lot easier to turn a blind eye to graphic rape when there's also gay sex and its source material is a "classic."

 

[FireGod365]

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but Jacob seems to have no love for Konosuba:

https://web.archive.org/web/2019012...er.com/itsbonedaddy/status/702584842383290368

https://web.archive.org/web/2019012...er.com/itsbonedaddy/status/702588907536252928

https://web.archive.org/web/2019012...er.com/itsbonedaddy/status/702585878837723136

https://web.archive.org/web/2019012...er.com/itsbonedaddy/status/687360858674966528

 

[A Big Bumbling Black Man]

It's pretty shallow to use a screenshot from the SECOND EPISODE to claim "So and so CONTINUES to bla bla bla" ya think?
The big bad REE OFFENSIVE is the main character calling his side-kick an attention whore?
He's talking to Aqua, a literal goddess who is forced to live like a day-laboring construction worker and sleep in a barn, so yes, of course she mentions she's a goddess every chance she gets.
I could go on, but as Hope put it, her opinion is "not worth making a big stink about".

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but Jacob seems to have no love for Konosuba:

https://web.archive.org/web/2019012...er.com/itsbonedaddy/status/702584842383290368

https://web.archive.org/web/2019012...er.com/itsbonedaddy/status/702588907536252928

https://web.archive.org/web/2019012...er.com/itsbonedaddy/status/702585878837723136

https://web.archive.org/web/2019012...er.com/itsbonedaddy/status/687360858674966528

Shallow complaints. Animation is shit because DEEN is shit, everyone knows about that low-hanging fruit. Personally I think the characters are too obnoxious and I don't think it's funny (partly because I'm not big into RPGs and the like so the jokes are there but I'm not registering them), but other people enjoy it, so whatever. Hope just doesn't like it when other people find something funny that she doesn't think is funny, so she has to shame other people for it.

I doubt she's ever had a sense of humor, I don't believe I've ever heard her give a genuine laugh.

 

[Captain Manning]

Eh that's not so guaranteed. The SAO guy cited overseas feedback as a reason for changing his writing style going forward. Granted that series is a Marty Stu mess in the first place so it might actually be an improvement.

I'm more specifically refuting whether anyone writing something with a deeper theme than wish fulfillment is going to give a flying fuck what the round-eyes think. @Jaimas already pointed out that Goblin Slayer has an underlying psychological theme. The author had an arc in mind when he started, and went with it.

That doesn't really describe Kawahara or SAO.* I don't think he really posits that the story has any point other than the MC serving as a self-insert for the fanboys. Said wish fulfillment theme might even drive him to modify elements of the story to play off the desires of the fan base and keep the show going. Its an outlier in the sense that it checks off that box and has done exceptionally well in the US.

Also, while I'm hardly the "respect wahman!" type, his female characters are really one dimensional. This has been lamented by a number of people who aren't of the SJW ilk.

* Unlike Goblin Slayer, there's actually a joke about SAO where Kawahara is too fucking lazy to explain the motivations of the antagonist in the first arc. He lost his marbles and trapped everybody in a video game because fuck you, I guess.

Personally I think the characters are too obnoxious and I don't think it's funny (partly because I'm not big into RPGs and the like so the jokes are there but I'm not registering them), but other people enjoy it, so whatever.

DEEN's shitty animation aside, I like Konosuba. But yeah, if you don't like JRPGS, you're not gonna appreciate it. Would not surprise me if Hope is in the same boat.

I doubt she's ever had a sense of humor, I don't believe I've ever heard her give a genuine laugh.

She's "laughed uncomfortably" enough times when she's about to go into SJW mode. "Hehehehe.... yeeeeeeeeeaaaahh.... here's why that's problematic." It's fucking annoying, but at least she telegraphs when you can tune out.

 

[FireGod365]

Surprise, surprise. Jacob retweeted this:

https://twitter.com/gabbomatic/status/1089261947743277063