All media is competing with free - And most of them will lose.

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Two clickbait organizations laid off significant portions of their staff this past week, totaling 1000 or more jobs. Along with it, twenty jobs at local papers across the country were shelved by Gannet, a print media company, though also seeming focused on OP/ED content. However, I am sure, this is not news to you. In the very long Kiwifarms thread on this subject much has been made on its connection to the Covington Catholic scandal, or to the low quality of the content these writers had produced.

And yet I feel that that misses the main point. It is not that a political stance has failed to turn a profit, or that legal issues are coming to bear, or even that the low quality of Buzzfeed lists turns off a wider audience. We have seen, after all, rightwing sites go under, high quality sites fail and many people far removed from outrage mobbing lose their jobs here. No, it would appear that in the internet, the land of the content for free, that profit is just plain hard to get.

Ads generating sales are a blue moon affair and pay walls, for average or low quality content, are death. I've never seen a pay wall work for easy to find content of the type you would see in a general news article- the type cribbed from a press release or deliberately leaked to media outlets with the goal of spreading a story. The reason they do not work is that content of equal quality is available for free from "gifted amateurs" or experts who would gladly shoot the shit for free in their spare time. This is true of youtube videos on any given subject, specialty forum posts or even media meant to be entertaining.

Yes, all media. It is my belief that the cuts currently facing magazines and print/online news outlets will in the near future be omnipresent across cable and network television, book publishing houses, all common news agencies, sports announcing/non-game feed programming and music media/publishing. Anything that can be adequately reproduced by a free voice will be and anything that can be replaced by digital distribution will be.

So what will survive then? Well, most obviously, media that cannot be adequately reproduced at low cost will remain intact, if reduced in size. This would be big budget film and its televised equivalent, triple AAA gaming (teams of more than even a few paid members,) pro-sports, the preforming arts and in one way or another paid access to "reruns" of already produced content. It is true, of course, that all audiences have limited time and will trend towards free leisure. However there will still be a specific want for big event experiences of the type listed above- and no adequate free equivalent.

Furthermore, media that does not rely on audience payments will also continue on. One example of this is the traditional fine arts like painting and sculpture which rely on a different financial model, one where their creations are used as financial holdings. Likewise, media which is not produced with a profit in mind will also continue without a culling. This would include government sponsored, student and influence media (that is to say, media produced by political groups or individuals with the explicit purpose of influencing an audience.)

So-called one man operations such as music, non-fiction writing, podcasts, or online personal branded content creation will not only survive but thrive in this new age of direct payments. With the presence of direct to author payment systems like patreon have led to a new age of amateur video and radio programming going pro. Music, especially, which can also rely on the event nature of touring should thrive in this new age even if individual musicians fail to attain the universal buy in that the general masses gave to their predecessors.

And what is the general audience to make of this? Will they miss the days of easily consumed mass media, even if it is they themselves who refused to pay out or click ads? My answer is that no, they will not. Payments for what they consider very high quality content (either big event purchases or direct donations to creators that the person in question finds to be uniquely engaging) and all you can eat low quality content for free is a model that I feel will be embraced by everyone. With the one exception being people who had previously been paid to produce content that can now be obtained freely.

Let me, as a final note, say a small homage to people who did produce what had been high quality work that is now obsolete. Disaster or war reporters, for instance, are now being phased out for local citizens on the ground with cell phones, general audiences are not missing out but the actual content produced is now being done by those who have the misfortune of living in the effected area. The men behind the camera, or even behind the studio working in finances, legal and even repairing the toilets at some of the organizations are going to have major life changes because of this restructuring of media, and through no fault of their own. Children's television, too, will probably be devastated- children do not have control of their own pocket books and parents are more likely to settle for free equivalents than opt in services. Indeed, much of children's television is already kept afloat by government mandates for educational content- which would falter if the number of broadcast television stations were to decrease in the way that this post says it would.

And finally, it is with regret that I feel we are at a point where we will soon be writing the obituaries to investigative reporting on town/city news which is already spotty. Most media today is generated with a national audience in mind, whether it is legitimate news or cribbed from the press releases of government, industry or special interest organizations. Producing local news stories on a national scale is a difficult endeavor, one which has still not been proven to be feasible. I do worry about this, legitimately, but I feel as though most people in my region do not. Alas, in this case I am not the general audience and if I want it I will, perhaps, have to be the journalist myself...
 
I used to be the kind of schmuck who would pay for shit thinking that I was supporting the creators and future material, but I've since learned that unless I'm giving directly to the creator, they're only getting a tiny portion of what I pay for it.

This is why except under certain situations I'll be pirating almost everything I possibly can.
 
This is why except under certain situations I'll be pirating almost everything I possibly can.
Pirating movies being currently released is wrong and you shouldn't do it.

Mostly because they are trash and waste of bandwidth, RAM and disk storage, no matter how much of those you have.

A landfill in Arizona is too good for 99% of what Hollywood makes today.
 
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Pirating movies being currently released is wrong and you shouldn't do.

Mostly because it is trash and waste of bandwidth, RAM and disk storage, no matter how much of those you have.

A landfill in Arizona is too good for 99% of what Hollywood makes today.
The only movie I'm even remotely interesting in seeing in is the upcoming H.P. Lovecraft movie starring Nicholas Cage.
 
I would agree with OP, but with some major caveats:

1. The crisis in "traditional content production" has been going on for a while now - e.g. the publishing industry has undergone several consolidations over last three decades or so.

2. I don't think "print media" is completely dead, insofar as they can offer a tangible product like a good book. So I think the magazines are mostly dead, while books can survive as being a niche product.
this is the same thing that is happening to music and film - the CD has been replaced by audio file downloads, the DVD and BluRay are being replaced by streaming services. just like those, the printed newspaper is being replaced by news sites.

tl;dr news media has lost its monopoly on information. and that's a good thing.
Not hasn't it - it is just that the power has been transferred from the publisher to intermediaries, like the streaming services and ISP and content aggregators like Google and Facebook, and that's not a good thing.
 
Jeff Gerstmann is a cuck, but he said this over 6 years ago.
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I used to be the kind of schmuck who would pay for shit thinking that I was supporting the creators and future material, but I've since learned that unless I'm giving directly to the creator, they're only getting a tiny portion of what I pay for it.
I feel bad for my parents having to actually buy me games, when now I just pirate them because fuck publishers.
 
I used to be the kind of schmuck who would pay for shit thinking that I was supporting the creators and future material, but I've since learned that unless I'm giving directly to the creator, they're only getting a tiny portion of what I pay for it.

This is why except under certain situations I'll be pirating almost everything I possibly can.

I pirate simply because I have the option. "Never buy what you can borrow; never borrow what you can steal."
 
I would love to be able to pay for solid local news, but the local newspaper in my area is filled with fluff that I don't consider newsworthy and is owned by a huge company pays the journalists like shit. Plus, the fucking ads are always in the way.

I would pay a decent amount of money--really, probably way more than you are thinking--for honest to god local news that tells me all of the upcoming events in my town and has a way bigger police blotter and tells me what the fuck is going on in ways that aren't clickbaity.

I got sick of a lot of newspapers because of the ads and organization of the paper. It was infuriating to try to read my local thing by the time I unsubscribed.
 
Counterpoint: Steam makes a killing. Why? Because it's easy to use and often runs sales, selling products at a reasonable price. They compete with free. Now granted, gaming is quite a different business than say, news media. But you get the point.

I also think steam is popular because it hosts everything in one place. This not only includes games but Friend lists, reviews,guides,sub-game forums, activity feeds, a server browser, Mod workshops,etc. I think that why steam does so well because it offers convenience and people are willing to pay for that.
 
Counterpoint: Steam makes a killing. Why? Because it's easy to use and often runs sales, selling products at a reasonable price. They compete with free. Now granted, gaming is quite a different business than say, news media. But you get the point.

So what will survive then? ...triple AAA gaming and ....paid access to "reruns" of already produced content.
I, didn't mention it but I also consider indie games to be a form of "one man band" content that should thrive in the new age. And hey, look, they have!

I would love to be able to pay for solid local news, but the local newspaper in my area is filled with fluff that I don't consider newsworthy and is owned by a huge company pays the journalists like shit. Plus, the fucking ads are always in the way.

I would pay a decent amount of money--really, probably way more than you are thinking--for honest to god local news that tells me all of the upcoming events in my town and has a way bigger police blotter and tells me what the fuck is going on in ways that aren't clickbaity.

I got sick of a lot of newspapers because of the ads and organization of the paper. It was infuriating to try to read my local thing by the time I unsubscribed.
Back when ghostery was good the absolute worst websites for ads and cookies wasn't the porn, the Chinese or even the Russian sites I would occasionally be linked to, it was American local tv sites. Guaranteed mid20s or higher in the amount of shit they were trying to grab from you or shove at you. And because of it they always ran like absolute shit, especially when adnausium would try to run fake instances of it all in the background. No wonder people avoid those places like the plague. In contrast my local paper is actually still quite good, even if half of their local coverage is sports.
 
the DVD and BluRay are being replaced by streaming services.

Yeah right, Netflix doesn't even have ancient movies like the Wizard of Oz & they can't even get every season of the Twilight Zone, you expect me to believe they're killing the hard media market? Nothing beats holding something in my hands knowing that a media service can't take it back from me after I've already paid for it. Nothing beats the knowledge that the quality of the video I'm watching depends on my internet access either & that I will 100% get the best quality experience available from the disc.

I pirate simply because I have the option. "Never buy what you can borrow; never borrow what you can steal."

Ah yes, the welfare leech motto.

 
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Counterpoint: Steam makes a killing. Why? Because it's easy to use and often runs sales, selling products at a reasonable price. They compete with free. Now granted, gaming is quite a different business than say, news media. But you get the point.

GOG is doing well just like steam, though they're occupying a different niche. while a lot of games on GOG can be found for free elsewhere, buying them means you don't have to worry about whether or not you'll be able to jigger your settings just right so that a 20 year old game wont crash after 5 minutes.

That and they download the game and files to your PC DRM free also helps a lot.
 
Counterpoint: Steam makes a killing. Why? Because it's easy to use and often runs sales, selling products at a reasonable price. They compete with free. Now granted, gaming is quite a different business than say, news media. But you get the point.

Dunno, those Youtubers seem to be doing fine. Unfortunately, they just read the news instead of actually investigate anything.

We could probably crowdfund serious investigative journalism though.
 
Dunno, those Youtubers seem to be doing fine. Unfortunately, they just read the news instead of actually investigate anything.

We could probably crowdfund serious investigative journalism though.

There are some folk here and there who bother doing research on news topics to a standard that should be the norm, but they're not popular because people want to see shitty jokes and reading an article out loud while going "PFT REKT LIBTARDS" while farting in a vuvuzela.

News is not something that most people want.
 
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