Megathread Insane Parents of "Transgender" Kids - Parents who push a transgender identity on their children

[sperginity]

No, he's 18. His birthday was last fall.

got surgery as a 17 year old, would have gotten it as a 16 year old except for the weight gain problems and refusal to see a therapist

 

[AnOminous]

And this looks like a forced rehearsal in front of the journalist.

Can't they even pretend to make this fake bullshit look real, like something an actual child would say? Fucking Korean war prisoners were more convincing.

 

[SelmaHendersen]

Why is it that they have to fix the body to match the brain and not fix the brain to match the body?

Why does one make sense but not the other?

I completely agree with you here, but it's in the interest of the government to encourage transitioning because it's easier to control a feminine populace. Not to mention, a LOT of money is being made off of transgender people.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

They transition girls with testosterone too, though. I think partly it's a modern gay cure (if you can't turn them into straight girls, turn them into straight boys, and similar for gay boys), partly it's eugenics (sterilise autistics, the mentally ill and anyone else who feels they don't fit in - a lot of women have noticed that they sterilise these kids and sterilise black and Native women against their will, while it's impossible for white women to get sterilised if they want it), and partly it's medicalising a sexual fetish so that all the creeps who like to "borrow" their wives' and daughters' clothes in secret can say it's a real condition and they can't help it and how dare you call them creepy you bigot.
And a lot of the fetishists are transhumanist dorks too, like Jennifer Pritzker and Martine Rothblatt, wanting to make their sci-fi religion fantasies come true. It's like those Malatora furries except with money.

 

[One Man Bland]

I'm pretty sure Walter Freeman was just a madman. He actually did his first transorbital lobotomy using an icepick. And he was a psychiatrist, not a surgeon, but he went around the country lobotomizing people (including children) anyway. Oh, and he promoted lobotomizing mentally ill people as the "starting point" to effective treatment, rather than a last-ditch resort for treatment-resistant patients as the procedure had been in the past. His approach to lobotomy as a treatment reminds me of modern scaremongering about how if we don't mutilate these children as soon as possible, with as little research and oversight as we can push through the medical establishment, they'll all kill themselves.

Good to know we've still learned nothing from medical history!

A major motive for Freeman was that he was also obsessed with getting his name in medical history and being as recognized as other medical professionals for having just one major contribution to medical science. The initial precursors to lobotomies originally were a neurosurgery that involved drilling a hole into the skull to remove a very small piece of the brain, but Freeman wasn't keen on this because it was already done before and he didn't have the surgical training to do one himself - hence his ice pick method as it technically didn't count as a surgery and thus could be performed by any doctor at the time, appealed to Freeman's theatrical sensibilities, and in Freeman's mind it was basically the same thing as an actual surgery because he was pretty sure he'd hit that specific piece of brain surgeons went in to remove if he rattled the pick around long enough. Lobotomies also appealed to Munchhausen By Proxy types who were convinced that there was something wrong with Junior when in reality they were often just normal kids, and would doctor shop them around until they found someone willing to give them a quick fix.

Another sad bit on the history of lobotomies is that a lot of medical professionals at the time knew damn well that Freeman's method was barbaric pseudo-science that was more likely to cause more damage than it solved (many countries even banned it, including the USSR), but would rarely speak out about these criticisms publicly because it was considered in poor form to diss a fellow medical professional or his methods. Even if you knew he was a total quack.

Considering everything that's been going on with trans surgeries and HRT, I can't help but wonder if the same things is happening in the medical sphere now.

And, unfortunately, his parents have turned him into a weeping primadonna that can't take criticism, can't deal with anyone that doesn't constantly give him attention, and is constantly creepily talking about vaginas 24/7.

You know what's really sad? The station/network that sponsors Jennings' show knows that's exactly what he's become. Banking on it in fact. If you've ever stolen a glance at the comments sections (the ones not hidden at least) on a promo clip, pretty much all of them are making fun of Jazz for what a prissy brat he is and what a shit personality he has.

Because those are the kinds of people who draw in the views for reality TV. People watch drivel like that to witness train wrecks, and the Jennings family delivers on that front. Execs are basically enabling child abuse and toxic behavior while rubbing their hands together in glee at how much juicy TV drama fucking up this kid is making.

 

[SourDiesel]

I completely agree with you here, but it's in the interest of the government to encourage transitioning because it's easier to control a feminine populace. Not to mention, a LOT of money is being made off of transgender people.

Setting aside the wierdly misogynist part of your comment, I'm genuinely curious why you think troons are either feminine and/or submissive & easily controlled?

 

[Diesel Boogaloo]

Why is it that they have to fix the body to match the brain and not fix the brain to match the body?

Why does one make sense but not the other?

From what I know, they apparently haven't figured it out how to cure the brain, and with the political climate nowadays I don't think anyone would dare to try to figure it out.

Hum, I think they need to do that for the rest of their lives, or at least for a decade or so. 2 years seem too few to me.

Well, yeah, but after two years it's just an hour a day.
Do you have too much free time? Cut off your dick and you'll always have something to do.

I think partly it's a modern gay cure (if you can't turn them into straight girls, turn them into straight boys, and similar for gay boys), partly it's eugenics (sterilise autistics, the mentally ill and anyone else who feels they don't fit in

This is literally the reason why there are so "few" gay people and so many "transgender" people in Iran.
Muhammad said no homo, but he never said no dick chopping.

Setting aside the wierdly misogynist part of your comment, I'm genuinely curious why you think troons are either feminine and/or submissive & easily controlled?

Good question. I'd think that given that MTFs like to pick the best parts from the social roles of men and women, they would usually dismiss both female acquiescence and male loyalty. No wonder GOP doesn't want them in military.

 

[Wallace]

Setting aside the wierdly misogynist part of your comment, I'm genuinely curious why you think troons are either feminine and/or submissive & easily controlled?

The traditional autogynephile fantasy is for the man to see himself as a submissive woman.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

The reason I ask is because a lot of the symptoms for being a troon sound hell of a lot like the symptoms for depression. Maybe, just maybe, self harm isn't a treatment for depression or having the "wrong body".

I completely agree with you here, but it's in the interest of the government to encourage transitioning because it's easier to control a feminine populace. Not to mention, a LOT of money is being made off of transgender people.

The government already controls people via other methods; a tiny fraction of the population isn't really "control".

 

[Wallace]

The reason I ask is because a lot of the symptoms for being a troon sound hell of a lot like the symptoms for depression. Maybe, just maybe, self harm isn't a treatment for depression or having the "wrong body".

Exactly. Troons like it because it's an easier answer to their problems.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Another sad bit on the history of lobotomies is that a lot of medical professionals at the time knew damn well that Freeman's method was barbaric pseudo-science that was more likely to cause more damage than it solved (many countries even banned it, including the USSR), but would rarely speak out about these criticisms publicly because it was considered in poor form to diss a fellow medical professional or his methods. Even if you knew he was a total quack.

That's still the case in the medical field. Even for dumb alt-medicine shit that some MDs and RNs fall for. You really don't speak badly about any other medical professional because of professional courtesy.

So yeah, this aids in the proliferation of HRT and SRS because it's very rare for doctors to tell their patients no and even more rare for doctors to call out another doctor for a misdiagnosis.

 

[Diesel Boogaloo]

Exactly. Troons like it because it's an easier answer to their problems.

It's often like this:

"I'm sad, there must be something wrong about me."
*browses tumblr*
"I must be wrong gender!"
*cuts off dick/breasts*
"Everyone likes me now!"
*initial period of being celebrated as a paragon of wokeness ends*
"I'm sad again."
*runs of our genders to change*
*an hero*

Or, to match the topic of this thread better:

Mom: "No one pays attention to me or my child! My child isn't a stereotype! He/she is unique!"
*browses left-wing women's sites*
Mom: "The child must be wrong gender!"
*cuts off dick/breasts*
Kid: "Everyone likes us now!"
and continues as above

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

To summarize:
– Jazz had complications. Stuff needed to be quickly fixed.
– Jazz likes the depth of his new "vagina" (I have never heard women talk about the depth of their vaginas. Is there a "shallow pussy complex" like there's the "short dick complex" in men – I guess not.)
– Even if everything goes fine (and let's hope so, the kid is the victim here), Jazz will have to poke the new hole for 2–3 hours every day for the next two years.
– The piss will go everywhere instead of a single stream.
– Jazz is not allowed to have "sexy thoughts" for 2 months. Whatever that means. I wonder why, can blood vessels that used to supply erection cause pressure that could rupture the stitches? Maybe that's what happened.

And that's only the immediate future. There are more long-term health issues associated with MTF transition (like hairballs, fungal infections, cardiovascular problems and so on), and then the sad finale is getting Alzheimers and wondering every morning where your dick went.

EDIT:
I dunno if anyone posted this here yet, but I found an old article about Jazz. It's anonymized, but "Nicole" was also born in 2000, has twin brothers and older sister, and lives in Florida: https://www.villagevoice.com/2006/05/30/see-tom-be-jane/ (http://archive.li/lLaNt)


Because that's how 2-yo kids talk. Even if it's remotely true, this means making the kid unhealthily fixated on genitals from a very young age.


And this looks like a forced rehearsal in front of the journalist.

Why did they specify "no sexual thoughts"? Poor kid couldn't have an erection with his mutilated penis when it was intact.

Setting aside the weirdly misogynist part of your comment, I'm genuinely curious why you think troons are either feminine and/or submissive & easily controlled?

She's got a point, kind of, at least with tims. There's a reason people castrate cats, dogs, goats, etc. etc. to make them more docile (I guess a lot of the body's testosterone is made in the balls idk I'm not a dude or a doctor). So not "feminine" exactly, but it takes a macho ma'am randy savage and turns them into someone who doesn't want to fight from roid poisoning blackout rage.

 

[Video Games]

I completely agree with you here, but it's in the interest of the government to encourage transitioning because it's easier to control a feminine populace. Not to mention, a LOT of money is being made off of transgender people.

You've said before that a tranny who tried to axe-murder a bunch of randos at a local store must have become violent and unstable because of the estrogen he was taking, yet here you say that transition makes men "easy to control" in their femininity.

To be fair, I agree that the practices associated with femininity are pushed onto girls and women in order to distract and control them. Someone who spends copious amounts of time on makeup, shaving, and other physical concerns doesn't have as much time to worry about other issues. Restrictive clothing such as tight skirts and high heels control a woman's capacity for movement and physical agency. All of the above combined lead to a constant awareness of one's appearance and others' perception of her, preventing women from fully focusing on their surroundings, actions, and goals.

However, I don't agree that men who transition experience the same restrictions of femininity even if they make an effort to perform them. Men who transition become distracted by their sexual fetish for femininity/womanhood and their fixation on how they and those around them are gendered long before they actually take any steps to begin transitioning. From anecdotes written by these men themselves (autogynephiles, not homosexual transsexuals), any distraction from their life, goals, and society comes from their obsession with "becoming a woman," which grows and takes over their entire life until they are taking medication and getting permanent surgery to satisfy their sexual urges. Not all men who transition are autogynephiles, of course, but I believe any of their distraction from life which on the surface mirrors that which is forced on women through femininity comes from sexual fixation.

As for the children who are being encouraged to transition, I agree that money is a major, if not the most major, factor in the continuing promotion of the practice. Children who start taking a medication continually around the age of puberty and plan to continue taking it for the rest of their lives represent a sizeable current and future market for drug companies. Any child who has already altered her body with hormones will likely also get expensive surgeries. And *puts on tinfoil hat* if the medications do cause serious health side effects, as long as those effects aren't fatal, the children will take other medications and get other surgeries to counter the side effects of the hormones.

I also think the medicalization of childhood plays some part--while some children do have ADHD autism, etc., the eagerness to diagnose any child who isn't perfect with a medical disorder has lead to, most commonly, young expressions of normal homosexual development ("I was supposed to be a girl/boy," opposite sex-typical toy preference, etc.) being singled out as having something "wrong" with them: Gender Identity Disorder.

I wonder if future people will be able to look back on our time and identify the "Walter Freeman" figure of the transgender movement? So far, I can't personally single out any one doctor or psychiatrist who seems to be leading the charge in pushing the transition of children to the extent that Walter Freeman pushed his transorbital lobotomy.

Spoiler: Fun Walter Freeman fact of the day:

Freeman thought it was a pain that he had to coordinate with an anesthesiologist whenever he wanted to operate on a patient, and that anesthesia took too long to set in. His solution was to use a quick electrical shock to the noggin to knock his patients out. The shock left a patient unconscious for about five minutes, during which he would quickly crack her orbital bones and swipe around behind her eyes blindly. Oh, and of course, take a picture of the patient with the orbitoclast stuck in the eye socket!

 

[SourDiesel]

You've said before that a tranny who tried to axe-murder a bunch of randos at a local store must have become violent and unstable because of the estrogen he was taking, yet here you say that transition makes men "easy to control" in their femininity.

To be fair, I agree that the practices associated with femininity are pushed onto girls and women in order to distract and control them. Someone who spends copious amounts of time on makeup, shaving, and other physical concerns doesn't have as much time to worry about other issues. Restrictive clothing such as tight skirts and high heels control a woman's capacity for movement and physical agency. All of the above combined lead to a constant awareness of one's appearance and others' perception of her, preventing women from fully focusing on their surroundings, actions, and goals.

However, I don't agree that men who transition experience the same restrictions of femininity even if they make an effort to perform them. Men who transition become distracted by their sexual fetish for femininity/womanhood and their fixation on how they and those around them are gendered long before they actually take any steps to begin transitioning. From anecdotes written by these men themselves (autogynephiles, not homosexual transsexuals), any distraction from their life, goals, and society comes from their obsession with "becoming a woman," which grows and takes over their entire life until they are taking medication and getting permanent surgery to satisfy their sexual urges. Not all men who transition are autogynephiles, of course, but I believe any of their distraction from life which on the surface mirrors that which is forced on women through femininity comes from sexual fixation.

This is the bit that kills me. It also happens to be the argument ppl make when they compare transitioning to blackface. Real women know this is actually a really negative element of womanhood yet autogynephiles see this as the erotic element & therefore mock it in a way. It's actually profoundly misogynistic to get off on pretending to be "controlled" in the way they clearly recognize women are.

 

[AnOminous]

I wonder if future people will be able to look back on our time and identify the "Walter Freeman" figure of the transgender movement? So far, I can't personally single out any one doctor or psychiatrist who seems to be leading the charge in pushing the transition of children to the extent that Walter Freeman pushed his transorbital lobotomy.

Walter Freeman had more the mentality of a serial killer than a doctor, unless maybe the doctor were Dr. Mengele.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Walter Freeman had more the mentality of a serial killer than a doctor, unless maybe the doctor were Dr. Mengele.

Well, look at the troon movement. Quite a few parents and troons may not fit "serial killer", but "willing to fuck up another being irreversibly for attention and validation" is close enough.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

As for the children who are being encouraged to transition, I agree that money is a major, if not the most major, factor in the continuing promotion of the practice. Children who start taking a medication continually around the age of puberty and plan to continue taking it for the rest of their lives represent a sizeable current and future market for drug companies. Any child who has already altered her body with hormones will likely also get expensive surgeries. And *puts on tinfoil hat* if the medications do cause serious health side effects, as long as those effects aren't fatal, the children will take other medications and get other surgeries to counter the side effects of the hormones.

It's fairly obvious that something is going on when you look at studies describing the side effects of GnRH agonists. It's all fairly horrifying until you get to the studies looking specifically at kids who are transitioning. Then the side effect profile is minimized as much as possible and gets brushed under the rug.

That's generally a pretty good tell that pharmaceutical companies are bankrolling a study.

 

[Dante Alighieri]

It's fairly obvious that something is going on when you look at studies describing the side effects of GnRH agonists. It's all fairly horrifying until you get to the studies looking specifically at kids who are transitioning. Then the side effect profile is minimized as much as possible and gets brushed under the rug.

That's generally a pretty good tell that pharmaceutical companies are bankrolling a study.

For all the flak the pharma companies get, it won't be over this.

 

[Box of Shame]

Seems like it's only during sex that these guys want to play out their fantasies of submitting and being helpless and degraded. In every other aspect of life they seem to have no problem bullying and bossing and making all sorts of screechy ridiculous demands.