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PK is incapable of an apology, and you can tell how frustrated she is that her manipulation isn't working. Apologizing would mean taking responsibility, which she has never done, and never will do, ever. Her ego won't let her.
Melanie Herring / Purplekecleon / PK / PapayaKitty / GlitchedPuppet / Ash Hazel Woods / Floraverse - Abusive, manipulative SJW artist whose ex-husband fucked a dog and teenagers and whose current husband thinks he's trans because of a TF fetish, admitted to fucking two dogs and letting her cat eat her out
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PK is incapable of an apology, and you can tell how frustrated she is that her manipulation isn't working. Apologizing would mean taking responsibility, which she has never done, and never will do, ever. Her ego won't let her.
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@Needle Fletcher I don’t have archive links right now, but if you’re going to talk to PK and/or Eevee, the big thing I’d like to see them explain is the disparity between the accounts Eevee, Marl, and PK each respectively gave about the bigfluff logs. In a non-confrontational way, I’d really like to know why their stories didn’t corroborate. It’s obvious to outsiders of course, but I’d like to know how the “innocents” try to explain it away, and why Eevee changed his mind on the logs being fake.
I’m going to believe this simply because it’s fucking hilarious.
I’m going to believe this simply because it’s fucking hilarious.
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You guys are way too optimistic that approaching this as a concerned friend is even going to work. I'd bet money on glip twisting shit and ousting this friend as an "undercover trol l"
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Almost everyone from the start of @Needle Fletcher 's posting has warned them to be careful about what they reveal, as whether new or old to this thread it's very well known what Glip thinks about people who come here to talk about her in any capacity.
I don't think anyone is optimistic that Glip is going to come clean--admitting she did something , even to a good friend, would mean admitting she's wrong, and she's never wrong, she's an eternal victim and the world is conspiring against her.
Admittedly, I'm just curious to see what happens next.
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Late for sure but...
Is this a penis? 
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Caught up on this thread after reading the parts I missed. The influx of new users willing to speak up about Glip might prove fruitful in the future
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I was thinking about this earlier. Eevee mostly, because Eevee is usually the one who answers for this stuff most of the time.
I was thinking about how the excuses literally evolve in front of our eyes depending on what (poor) set of information they have at the time. If they were actually trying to address the 'real' situation, they'd have one story instead of one that slowly changes depending on what they hear. The shit with 'button pusher' (Bigfluff) is a good example. They give the excuse that they think will work until they get information that shows it won't work.
For once, no.Late for sure but...
Is this a penis?
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But hey, Joop, since you're reading the thread, maybe you could clear some things up?
Edit: I hope this post doesn't sound accusatory towards Joop in any way, because that was absolutely not my intention, I was just genuinely wondering
hey. ive been considering on commenting here for a long time because im honestly really nervous about the idea. i wouldnt want to get in trouble for it. but seeing needle fletcher talk on here makes me feel brave enough to surface as well. you all know by now ive been lurking for a long time. i usually alert the crew when something goes down. aside that, i usually moderate the comments on the floraverse sites.
and god damn am i curious as hell to what you want me to clear up? i didnt understand exactly what you meant- but i guess ill find out.
but as anxious as i am, i think i am also a little frightened about the entire situation, too. ive been debating on what to believe for the longest time, and sorry if i seem skeptical about some things, but its mostly from experience in the past.
and sorry if anything i say sounds rubbish, i am bad at communication at times. if i screw something i say up, ill try my best to rephrase it better. sorry. thats one of the other reasons i hesitated so long on posting. im not very good with socializing through words.
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PK updated on Twitter today. I don't know why she's been typing in all caps lately.
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Hey Joop, we're happy to have you here. We're sorry if we scared you at all.
I think what Gronbo was asking you to clarify was about the pedophilia/beastiality accusations, but we'd love to hear anything you have to say about your experience with Glip in general. It'd be really helpful to hear your side of the story.
Take care of yourself.
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Honestly, and I'm sure I can speak for a lot of kiwis when I say this (although I am just a long time lurker) don't worry about risking facing the wrath of GP just to have stuff to post here for milk or anything like that. If you have good reason to gtfo of that friendship with glip then gtfo.
Anyways, I think the most convincing evidence that speaks for itself is that the testimonies of people who have been victimized by Marl in the past is so consistent. See this post:
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Being around in the old floraverse discord from 2017/18, i havent seen anything about that stuff, which is why im so skeptical. i have a really hard time believing simple caps from emails and stuff like that. the only thing involving talk of children i remember was a conversation where alot of us, including glip, talked about how we think kids were snobby brats. i remember marl telling glip that he was glad they were never stupid enough to want kids. (personally children scare me, but thats not relevant.)
idk if im suppose to talk about this online or not because i dont care anymore and dont like to draw attention to myself over dumb shit, but i was also somewhat of a victim by marl. in the early months of the discord, including the second day i joined, i tried to get into their forbiddenflora chat which was agelocked. i was under 18 for a few months still. i thought lying about it would be chill because teens all the time lie about their age to get into stuff like that. it can be dangerous though.
i got in, and about an hour or two later i felt guilty about it. i dont know. so i told marl, who was one of the admins back then. he told me it would be fine, and that it would be our "secret", that "nobody would have to know." i was immediately taken aback by this and mentioned in the main chat that i was actually 17 at the time and felt bad, glip demoted me after i was being lectured that its dangerous for kids to join things like that. i mentioned that i just wanted to talk about lgbt stuff and that was the only chat i was comfortable with at the time because the rest were less accepting.
after the lecture i was stuck in the main chat until a few days after i was 18, to assure i wasnt lying more. then when i got in, we all joked about how we use to lie about our age online at some point, though we became more serious and talked about some things like that later on. i dont remember much about that.
but i remember being too scared to tell glip what marl told me at the time because i didnt know glip well- i was afraid they would think i was one of the "Trolls". so i put it off until early 2018. this was around the time things went down with big-fluff or whoever -sorry, im bad with names- and glip was absolutely outraged. we tried to find marl's chat in my dms, but he seemed to have changed his handle or something, beccause we couldnt find it. before this happened, marl had left in the late fall before, because he said he disliked chatting and wanted to focus on some book and writing. anyway me and glip spent several hours venting in the chat because of it, though eventually i stepped away so i dont know much more about that. i dont resent glip for this because it wasnt their fault and they didnt know. their reaction to this stuff was genuine. i know that
i got in, and about an hour or two later i felt guilty about it. i dont know. so i told marl, who was one of the admins back then. he told me it would be fine, and that it would be our "secret", that "nobody would have to know." i was immediately taken aback by this and mentioned in the main chat that i was actually 17 at the time and felt bad, glip demoted me after i was being lectured that its dangerous for kids to join things like that. i mentioned that i just wanted to talk about lgbt stuff and that was the only chat i was comfortable with at the time because the rest were less accepting.
after the lecture i was stuck in the main chat until a few days after i was 18, to assure i wasnt lying more. then when i got in, we all joked about how we use to lie about our age online at some point, though we became more serious and talked about some things like that later on. i dont remember much about that.
but i remember being too scared to tell glip what marl told me at the time because i didnt know glip well- i was afraid they would think i was one of the "Trolls". so i put it off until early 2018. this was around the time things went down with big-fluff or whoever -sorry, im bad with names- and glip was absolutely outraged. we tried to find marl's chat in my dms, but he seemed to have changed his handle or something, beccause we couldnt find it. before this happened, marl had left in the late fall before, because he said he disliked chatting and wanted to focus on some book and writing. anyway me and glip spent several hours venting in the chat because of it, though eventually i stepped away so i dont know much more about that. i dont resent glip for this because it wasnt their fault and they didnt know. their reaction to this stuff was genuine. i know that
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Ok I'll bite.
First off, thank you for coming. I promise we don't actually bite. You're looking for answers, and quite frankly we are too, and I appreciate
you being here.
There are a few things, in general, I would like cleared up. I don't think you will have all the answers but I think these are general questions worth asking- if no one else then yourself. Bear with me, this might be long. I will provide context and evidence before I ask my formal questions.
First off, thank you for coming. I promise we don't actually bite. You're looking for answers, and quite frankly we are too, and I appreciate
you being here.
There are a few things, in general, I would like cleared up. I don't think you will have all the answers but I think these are general questions worth asking- if no one else then yourself. Bear with me, this might be long. I will provide context and evidence before I ask my formal questions.
First off, in 2014 Lain (Glip calls her Spaggle) came forward about what Marl did to her.
Here is her October 2014 post.
This post specifically mentions how Marl was talking about dog intercourse with a woman.
Lain made another post in October 2015 about the same topic. Specifically mentioning how Marl showed her an unsheathed dog penis.
Later, in April 2018 Big Fluffs logs dropped. These are all from 2012. These covered the same topics between her and Marl. Including Marl discussing trying to have dog having intercourse with a stranger woman and other beastiality topic.
Since these logs have come forward. Marl and Eevee have stated that they are not "entirely false" And Marl has confirmed that he is into zoophila.
So my question is this.
If they recognize that Marl is into zoophila, specifically with dogs, and recognize that Fluff was a victim of childhood solicitation by Marl-
How did Lain correctly guess that Marl was into zoophila and pedophilia in 2014 if it as Glip claims here and Lain is a liar?
Here is her October 2014 post.
This post specifically mentions how Marl was talking about dog intercourse with a woman.
Lain made another post in October 2015 about the same topic. Specifically mentioning how Marl showed her an unsheathed dog penis.
Later, in April 2018 Big Fluffs logs dropped. These are all from 2012. These covered the same topics between her and Marl. Including Marl discussing trying to have dog having intercourse with a stranger woman and other beastiality topic.
Since these logs have come forward. Marl and Eevee have stated that they are not "entirely false" And Marl has confirmed that he is into zoophila.
So my question is this.
If they recognize that Marl is into zoophila, specifically with dogs, and recognize that Fluff was a victim of childhood solicitation by Marl-
How did Lain correctly guess that Marl was into zoophila and pedophilia in 2014 if it as Glip claims here and Lain is a liar?
As mentioned and linked before, in 2014 and 2015 Lain came forward with her story about how Marl sexually solicited her and about his zoophilia habits.
Pengo, a person who was very close to Glip was seemingly aware of Marls zoo habits and was legally threatened about mentioning said habits.
Junglekawa, another one of Glips ex's, stated that Marl also crept up on her with talk of zoophila with dogs. She specifically mentions that Marl was disappointed that Glip didn't want to fuck the dog.
A twitter user got in contact with Fluff, and she provided more logs that were not in the initial batch that back up Marl saying Glip knows that he is into zoophila.( This chatlog also seems to be describing Marl showing Fluff a dog penis, which is exactly what Lain claimed for back with the first question. )
There is also this anonymous testimony from 2015 about a person who claims Glip was present in a 2012 occurrence where Marl tried to her to have sex with a dog.
Typically, I wouldn't mention anonymous testimony, but this one specifically puts Glip in the room when Marl did what he does. And, in the Marl logs with BigFluff which also took place in 2012 actually seem to tell the same story.
So - to summarize
Marl claimed to Fluff that Glip knew.
Anonymous testimony semi backed up by Marl puts Glip in the room of one of the times Marl commited zoophila.
Pengo knew Marl was into Zoophila. Glip threatened him with legal action for talking about this.
Junglekawa knew Marl was into Zoophila. She also claims that Marl told her that Glip knew.
Here is my question:
All of these people close to Glip and knew Marl knew that Marl was into zoophila or have consistently said that Marl stated Glip knew.
If all of these people knew what Marl was doing, how did Glip not?
Pengo, a person who was very close to Glip was seemingly aware of Marls zoo habits and was legally threatened about mentioning said habits.
Junglekawa, another one of Glips ex's, stated that Marl also crept up on her with talk of zoophila with dogs. She specifically mentions that Marl was disappointed that Glip didn't want to fuck the dog.
A twitter user got in contact with Fluff, and she provided more logs that were not in the initial batch that back up Marl saying Glip knows that he is into zoophila.( This chatlog also seems to be describing Marl showing Fluff a dog penis, which is exactly what Lain claimed for back with the first question. )
There is also this anonymous testimony from 2015 about a person who claims Glip was present in a 2012 occurrence where Marl tried to her to have sex with a dog.
Typically, I wouldn't mention anonymous testimony, but this one specifically puts Glip in the room when Marl did what he does. And, in the Marl logs with BigFluff which also took place in 2012 actually seem to tell the same story.
So - to summarize
Marl claimed to Fluff that Glip knew.
Anonymous testimony semi backed up by Marl puts Glip in the room of one of the times Marl commited zoophila.
Pengo knew Marl was into Zoophila. Glip threatened him with legal action for talking about this.
Junglekawa knew Marl was into Zoophila. She also claims that Marl told her that Glip knew.
Here is my question:
All of these people close to Glip and knew Marl knew that Marl was into zoophila or have consistently said that Marl stated Glip knew.
If all of these people knew what Marl was doing, how did Glip not?
This is about Fluff again. The logs between her and Marl mention her being a button presser. Back when I was a fan of Glip I remember Glip talking about said button presser.
After the logs dropped, Glip very strongly stated that there was never anyone underage in their home.
However, a few days later Eevee casually states that there was a button presser in the home.
We also know that Fluff, was in fact once close to Marl because she had photos of him that were never online. Since Marl and Eevee have admitted the logs are at least somewhat true, and Eevee states there was a button presser. We can presume here that, Fluff, was in fact, in their home.
My question is this.
Why did Glip lie about Fluff being in their home?
After the logs dropped, Glip very strongly stated that there was never anyone underage in their home.
However, a few days later Eevee casually states that there was a button presser in the home.
We also know that Fluff, was in fact once close to Marl because she had photos of him that were never online. Since Marl and Eevee have admitted the logs are at least somewhat true, and Eevee states there was a button presser. We can presume here that, Fluff, was in fact, in their home.
My question is this.
Why did Glip lie about Fluff being in their home?
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It's very interesting to know this, and quite reassuring to know that nobody was groomed recently by them (at least, as far as you know). That's definitely a huge red flag from Marl, but it's good to know you're safe now.
Thanks so much for sharing your side of the conversation. It was probably really scary to come here and talk about this sort of thing, and I'm sure we all appreciate you doing so. I hope to see more from you in the future.
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Ok I'll bite.
First off, thank you for coming. I promise we don't actually bite. You're looking for answers, and quite frankly we are too, and I appreciate
you being here.
There are a few things, in general, I would like cleared up. I don't think you will have all the answers but I think these are general questions worth asking- if no one else then yourself. Bear with me, this might be long. I will provide context and evidence before I ask my formal questions.
First off, in 2014 Lain (Glip calls her Spaggle) came forward about what Marl did to her.
Here is her October 2014 post.
This post specifically mentions how Marl was talking about dog intercourse with a woman.
Lain made another post in October 2015 about the same topic. Specifically mentioning how Marl showed her an unsheathed dog penis.
Later, in April 2018 Big Fluffs logs dropped. These are all from 2012. These covered the same topics between her and Marl. Including Marl discussing trying to have dog having intercourse with a stranger woman and other beastiality topic.
Since these logs have come forward. Marl and Eevee have stated that they are not "entirely false" And Marl has confirmed that he is into zoophila.
So my question is this.
If they recognize that Marl is into zoophila, specifically with dogs, and recognize that Fluff was a victim of childhood solicitation by Marl-
How did Lain correctly guess that Marl was into zoophila and pedophilia in 2014 if it as Glip claims here and Lain is a liar?
As mentioned and linked before, in 2014 and 2015 Lain came forward with her story about how Marl sexually solicited her and about his zoophilia habits.
Pengo, a person who was very close to Glip was seemingly aware of Marls zoo habits and was legally threatened about mentioning said habits.
Junglekawa, another one of Glips ex's, stated that Marl also crept up on her with talk of zoophila with dogs. She specifically mentions that Marl was disappointed that Glip didn't want to fuck the dog.
A twitter user got in contact with Fluff, and she provided more logs that were not in the initial batch that back up Marl saying Glip knows that he is into zoophila.( This chatlog also seems to be describing Marl showing Fluff a dog penis, which is exactly what Lain claimed for back with the first question. )
There is also this anonymous testimony from 2015 about a person who claims Glip was present in a 2012 occurrence where Marl tried to her to have sex with a dog.
Typically, I wouldn't mention anonymous testimony, but this one specifically puts Glip in the room when Marl did what he does. And, in the Marl logs with BigFluff which also took place in 2012 actually seem to tell the same story.
So - to summarize
Marl claimed to Fluff that Glip knew.
Anonymous testimony semi backed up by Marl puts Glip in the room of one of the times Marl commited zoophila.
Pengo knew Marl was into Zoophila. Glip threatened him with legal action for talking about this.
Junglekawa knew Marl was into Zoophila. She also claims that Marl told her that Glip knew.
Here is my question:
All of these people close to Glip and knew Marl knew that Marl was into zoophila or have consistently said that Marl stated Glip knew.
If all of these people knew what Marl was doing, how did Glip not?
This is about Fluff again. The logs between her and Marl mention her being a button presser. Back when I was a fan of Glip I remember Glip talking about said button presser.
After the logs dropped, Glip very strongly stated that there was never anyone underage in their home.
However, a few days later Eevee casually states that there was a button presser in the home.
We also know that Fluff, was in fact once close to Marl because she had photos of him that were never online. Since Marl and Eevee have admitted the logs are at least somewhat true, and Eevee states there was a button presser. We can presume here that, Fluff, was in fact, in their home.
My question is this.
Why did Glip lie about Fluff being in their home?
i cant really answer many of these things for both lack of knowledge and lack of communication skills on my end.
but i remember glip saying at some point during us talking about him that every time something went down like logs or stuff glip would confront marl about this and marl would simply say it was all lies and stuff from people who hated him years ago or something, and then he would become this weird depressive entity in their house. he would rarely leave his room and he wouldnt speak to anyone. he would just sulk around, and it made everyone miserable. because of this, glip just tried to do what marl said (and by this i mean try to ignore the accusations for the most part)so marl wouldnt be so upset. that's what i recall.
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Let me rephrase question 1 then, because I think this is important to think about.
Since it's no longer a secret what Marl was doing, why is Glip still hostile to Lain for being the first one to publicly speak about it? Especially since her story lines up incredibily simiilar with all the other stories, including your own?
Also
I am very sorry that Marl targeted you too- and I am glad that it didn't get as far as it could and that you are safe.
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Hey Joop! I probably worded my first question to you really poorly, so I apologize for that. I just wanted to know why you would stick with someone accused by countless people as being an (in many ways) abusive group of people when you yourself faced abuse? Again, I absolutely am not asking this in an accusing way, I and many others just want your side of the story.
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Suddenly this thread turned into something very interesting. I didnt think I'd say that it was good to allow guests in the forum, but it was.
For the newbies who havent seen it: Give a peek to the article about PK on the wiki, it contains a summary of the accusations and links to some relevant posts.
And finally, I wouldnt have stated anything about asking PK publicly, because now they're aware that somebody will come and ask, and knowing how paranoid the duo is, they are going to be pending of anything even remotely suspicious or strange.
For the newbies who havent seen it: Give a peek to the article about PK on the wiki, it contains a summary of the accusations and links to some relevant posts.
And finally, I wouldnt have stated anything about asking PK publicly, because now they're aware that somebody will come and ask, and knowing how paranoid the duo is, they are going to be pending of anything even remotely suspicious or strange.
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Do you have logs of this conversation? Obviously you don't need to feel obligated to post any of a private conversation even if you do have them, but seeing Glip's reaction to that kind of thing in a context outside of giant public twitter rants seems like it could offer some insights.
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glip still believes lain is this "spaggle" (am i getting that right?) person, someone that they were warned about via and email and/or a deviantart note conversation, since it lined up around the same time. thats all i know. i have no reason to disblieve it because glip has never lied to me, as far as im able to tell.
i use to be really interested with glips early sonic work. this later became pokemon work, and i really liked the art style. i wanted to get to know them more. i didnt really until 2017, but before that, i just followed them and occasionally sent asks on their floraverse tumblr (i use to be called jupetcha and unbelethable, though i think someone else is named unbelethable now and i accidentally locked myself out of my jupetcha tumblr, oops). once i got to know them i just liked the community alot. the people in it are mostly nice, save for a few that clashed with my personality, but thats really all there is to it. i like talking to glip about art and floraverse, as confusing as it can be at times. i enjoy it.
as for the abusiveness accusations, i havent really talked to them about anything like that. i was pretty shitty in my young teens to a handful of people too, and while its not as wild as the assumptions about glip are, i like to believe people change. glip hasnt shown an abusive side to me ever, and not to my friends or the other community members. i guess thats why i have a hard time understanding everything, but im still open for debate about it. i like to get my knowledge straight, and thats why im here.