Crunchy Parents General

Yeah I was ridiculously crunchy when my kids were little but it was always tempered with moderation.

When my oldest got a fever that spiked out of nowhere up to 105.7. It was a do not pass go, do not collect $200 moment and I took him to the ER.

I caught flak from some of the crunchy friends I had, but fuck that shit. No amount of breast.tard cum or sugar pills was going to bring that down and I didn’t want him brain damaged just because I was freebasing the woo.

Turns out he had roseola, a common illness but sometimes accompanied by a scary high fever. Some of the cuckoos in my crunchy mom group wanted me to throw a fucking roseola party so their kids would get it and have immunity. I declined and set up the quarantine flag.
The 'sickness party' thing is so weird to me. It's a thing even normal people do in England, because for some reason they don't get childhood chickenpox vaccines there. Being sick sucks, and having to take care of a sick child sucks, who wants to deal with that?
 
y i k e s I didn't think I could cringe this much. Unfunny and awkward, but I think the worst part is just how catty and bitter-sounding half those skits are.

Fuckin' mommies are ruthless, man.
There's one episode where a mom starts talking about her World of Warcraft character, comparing her own posture to it (I guess it was an undead?). Given the audience's reaction, I think she was the only person who even knew what WoW was.

I came upon this cringefest years ago when I was stuck in a hospital waiting room.
 
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Willing to do anything....except go to the doctor. God help that kid and what's left of his dick.

I know the type, she will probably go to an expensive deli in an upmarket popup mall and stick his weener in a packet of kale chips, tying it off with some organic wheat grass.
 
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When I was a kid I was deathly afraid of dentists still am to an extent and the first time I went I refused to open my mouth. My mother wouldn't try to coerce me into being compliant and instead just tricked retarded 6 year old me. Why are parents so afraid to be parents these days, they try so hard to be friends with their kids and never actually teach them to grow up.
 
My favourite new age bullshit is black salve - a black paste made of natural plants containing natural strong alkaloids that eats away at skin causing abcess.. i mean the toxins to come out

Often used in pseudo cancer treatments theres groups full of adults using this shit down to the bone to heal themselves
I'd be giving these morons too much credit to say they dont use it on kids

Herr's a typical result of using it for extended periods 5nx1q61kjmw11.jpg

Barefoot weirdos could get their own thread too.

I mean modern shoes do cause all kinds of foot and ankle issues because they don't allow the foot to contort as it should, and gradually the weird force vectors can do real damage to your joints
Feet are designed to take a beating and get stronger like any other part of the body
 
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Some thoughts on "Mommy Culture" and Crunchy moms.

When I worked fast food, there would sometimes be a gaggle of moms and their children as part of a "play date." It was always interesting to see what the first mom - usually the Alpha Bitch - would order. If she would order a salad, all the other moms would, too. For all of this talk that "men are hierarchical, women are consensual," I hardly if ever see that play out in reality. What happens is that the Alpha Bitch sets the tone, and all the women agree and pretend that they've all come to that same conclusion. Women tend to act "communally" largely as a defense mechanism of being excluded from the group, yes, but there's usually no doubt as to who really is in charge. Women stick to the group so that the Alpha Bitch won't talk bad about them behind their back. From my experience, I don't think women would engage in half of the insanity pushed by their peers or "authorities" if it were up to them. However, peer pressure often gets them to go against their better judgment.

Which is where we get to crunchy moms. You rarely see these women do it in isolation: usually their peers are doing it, so it draws them into it. To allude to an earlier post in this thread, why would the first thing a mom do when their child is seriously sick or injured is post on Facebook for advice when their first instinct should be "I need to get my child to a doctor, STAT"? Simple: she needs validation from her peer group. This is also why Crunchy moms are eager to preach at you why their method of childrearing is superior to yours. In short, these crunchy moms don't raise their children this way so much because they believe its the right thing to do as it is to gain acceptance and praise from their peers.

On a slightly related note, the whole reason for the breastfeeding mania is quite interesting. In the 1950's and 60's, middle class parents didn't typically breastfeed their children in large part because it was a sign of poverty. Before formula, a wealthy family could afford a wet nurse, again flaunting their wealth. It wasn't until the 1970's with the residue of hippie culture did you see "Earth Moms" begin openly breastfeeding again. With it so common nowadays, there are still women who are better than anyone else just because they do something that their body was designed to do; like they discovered some magic formula - no pun intended - hidden from the normie moms who likely make their children's sandwiches with generic brand white bread and american cheese singles. The militancy with which even the most "normie" of breastfeeding moms treat the act can be absolutely stupid at times.
 
My favourite new age bullshit is black salve - a black paste made of natural plants containing natural strong alkaloids that eats away at skin causing abcess.. i mean the toxins to come out

Often used in pseudo cancer treatments theres groups full of adults using this shit down to the bone to heal themselves
I'd be giving these morons too much credit to say they dont use it on kids

Herr's a typical result of using it for extended periods View attachment 1307754

Okay so first, WHAT in the blue FUCK is that?

As for the other crunchy shit, the vaccine and homebirthing arguments are two of my favorites.

Now, overall, I don't give that much of a fuck about homebirthing, primarily because you have two types of homebirthers:

First you have the overall sensible women who are curious and want to try it: They and their baby have a clean bill of health from a doctor, they get a midwife or nurse to oversee it, and they're more than willing to go to the hospital if things start looking iffy, before or after the birth starts. They are flexible and not married to the idea of giving birth at home, and will prioritize their baby's health above anything else. (I still don't think it's necessarily a good idea, but these women are adults responsible for themselves and homebirthing is not illegal (nor do I think it should be, because I wouldn't want women who accidentally give birth at home, or are forced to give birth at home in emergency situations, to be open to prosecution- and you know some dickhead would try)).

And then you have the crunchy moms.

The type that A) passive-aggressively (or outright) judge women who give birth in hospitals, or B) the kind that smugly ignore the various risks inherently associated with the practice, up to and including pre-existing health issues for both mother and baby. There are women who will do this shit knowing damn well that they are at risk and still go ahead with it because, like most crunchy parents, they think they know better than medical professionals. And every time they succeed at giving birth to a healthy kid in spite of these issues, they screech it out as a victory- parents who suffer tragedy, however, are promptly pushed out of the spotlight so as not to taint the image overall. These women place a moral price on giving birth outside of a hospital, and are the kind of women who say shit like "Oh, well women were giving birth at home for thousands of years and we did just fine."

And my response is "No, dumbass, women did not do just fine." The mortality rate for women during/right after childbirth (as a result of complications) was sky-high before the 1900s. It was in part due to non-sterile environments (we didn't know what germs were, so doctors didn't wash their hands or clean equipment sufficiently between patients) and in part due to lack of medical knowledge (with so little ability to see inside of bodies pre-1900s, internal bleeding or issues could go unnoticed and untreated, resulting in death or disability).

Same shit with vaccines. "Oh, vaccines are modern, we have immune systems to take care of that." First of all, no, vaccines are not modern inventions: Vaccination has existed in many forms for hundreds of years, whether it's a shot in the arm or someone ingesting the scab of a smallpox sufferer because someone figured out that it could improve your chances against the illness. Second, people who say this shit are spoiled children that have had the luxury of growing up in a day and time where certain illnesses have been eliminated through vaccination- nobody had to tell my grandmother to get her kids vaccinated against polio in the 1950s, and it might have something to do with the fact that they had kids with polio in the neighborhood, blaring warning signs for what would happen if her kids got infected.

I am an unrepentant history-fag and these crunchy types drive my ass up the wall whenever they start saying things like "Oh, we did fine without hospitals and vaccines" because it's blatantly apparent that they have no idea what they're talking about. They slept through their history classes and never cracked a history book worth reading.
 
Okay so first, WHAT in the blue FUCK is that?

As for the other crunchy shit, the vaccine and homebirthing arguments are two of my favorites.

Now, overall, I don't give that much of a fuck about homebirthing, primarily because you have two types of homebirthers:

First you have the overall sensible women who are curious and want to try it: They and their baby have a clean bill of health from a doctor, they get a midwife or nurse to oversee it, and they're more than willing to go to the hospital if things start looking iffy, before or after the birth starts. They are flexible and not married to the idea of giving birth at home, and will prioritize their baby's health above anything else. (I still don't think it's necessarily a good idea, but these women are adults responsible for themselves and homebirthing is not illegal (nor do I think it should be, because I wouldn't want women who accidentally give birth at home, or are forced to give birth at home in emergency situations, to be open to prosecution- and you know some dickhead would try)).

And then you have the crunchy moms.

The type that A) passive-aggressively (or outright) judge women who give birth in hospitals, or B) the kind that smugly ignore the various risks inherently associated with the practice, up to and including pre-existing health issues for both mother and baby. There are women who will do this shit knowing damn well that they are at risk and still go ahead with it because, like most crunchy parents, they think they know better than medical professionals. And every time they succeed at giving birth to a healthy kid in spite of these issues, they screech it out as a victory- parents who suffer tragedy, however, are promptly pushed out of the spotlight so as not to taint the image overall. These women place a moral price on giving birth outside of a hospital, and are the kind of women who say shit like "Oh, well women were giving birth at home for thousands of years and we did just fine."

And my response is "No, dumbass, women did not do just fine." The mortality rate for women during/right after childbirth (as a result of complications) was sky-high before the 1900s. It was in part due to non-sterile environments (we didn't know what germs were, so doctors didn't wash their hands or clean equipment sufficiently between patients) and in part due to lack of medical knowledge (with so little ability to see inside of bodies pre-1900s, internal bleeding or issues could go unnoticed and untreated, resulting in death or disability).

Same shit with vaccines. "Oh, vaccines are modern, we have immune systems to take care of that." First of all, no, vaccines are not modern inventions: Vaccination has existed in many forms for hundreds of years, whether it's a shot in the arm or someone ingesting the scab of a smallpox sufferer because someone figured out that it could improve your chances against the illness. Second, people who say this shit are spoiled children that have had the luxury of growing up in a day and time where certain illnesses have been eliminated through vaccination- nobody had to tell my grandmother to get her kids vaccinated against polio in the 1950s, and it might have something to do with the fact that they had kids with polio in the neighborhood, blaring warning signs for what would happen if her kids got infected.

I am an unrepentant history-fag and these crunchy types drive my ass up the wall whenever they start saying things like "Oh, we did fine without hospitals and vaccines" because it's blatantly apparent that they have no idea what they're talking about. They slept through their history classes and never cracked a history book worth reading.

Im reliably informed that those are the toxins coming out
 
Okay so first, WHAT in the blue FUCK is that?

As for the other crunchy shit, the vaccine and homebirthing arguments are two of my favorites.

Now, overall, I don't give that much of a fuck about homebirthing, primarily because you have two types of homebirthers:

First you have the overall sensible women who are curious and want to try it: They and their baby have a clean bill of health from a doctor, they get a midwife or nurse to oversee it, and they're more than willing to go to the hospital if things start looking iffy, before or after the birth starts. They are flexible and not married to the idea of giving birth at home, and will prioritize their baby's health above anything else. (I still don't think it's necessarily a good idea, but these women are adults responsible for themselves and homebirthing is not illegal (nor do I think it should be, because I wouldn't want women who accidentally give birth at home, or are forced to give birth at home in emergency situations, to be open to prosecution- and you know some dickhead would try)).

And then you have the crunchy moms.

The type that A) passive-aggressively (or outright) judge women who give birth in hospitals, or B) the kind that smugly ignore the various risks inherently associated with the practice, up to and including pre-existing health issues for both mother and baby. There are women who will do this shit knowing damn well that they are at risk and still go ahead with it because, like most crunchy parents, they think they know better than medical professionals. And every time they succeed at giving birth to a healthy kid in spite of these issues, they screech it out as a victory- parents who suffer tragedy, however, are promptly pushed out of the spotlight so as not to taint the image overall. These women place a moral price on giving birth outside of a hospital, and are the kind of women who say shit like "Oh, well women were giving birth at home for thousands of years and we did just fine."

And my response is "No, dumbass, women did not do just fine." The mortality rate for women during/right after childbirth (as a result of complications) was sky-high before the 1900s. It was in part due to non-sterile environments (we didn't know what germs were, so doctors didn't wash their hands or clean equipment sufficiently between patients) and in part due to lack of medical knowledge (with so little ability to see inside of bodies pre-1900s, internal bleeding or issues could go unnoticed and untreated, resulting in death or disability).

Same shit with vaccines. "Oh, vaccines are modern, we have immune systems to take care of that." First of all, no, vaccines are not modern inventions: Vaccination has existed in many forms for hundreds of years, whether it's a shot in the arm or someone ingesting the scab of a smallpox sufferer because someone figured out that it could improve your chances against the illness. Second, people who say this shit are spoiled children that have had the luxury of growing up in a day and time where certain illnesses have been eliminated through vaccination- nobody had to tell my grandmother to get her kids vaccinated against polio in the 1950s, and it might have something to do with the fact that they had kids with polio in the neighborhood, blaring warning signs for what would happen if her kids got infected.

I am an unrepentant history-fag and these crunchy types drive my ass up the wall whenever they start saying things like "Oh, we did fine without hospitals and vaccines" because it's blatantly apparent that they have no idea what they're talking about. They slept through their history classes and never cracked a history book worth reading.
I once ran into a beautiful little girl, around 4 or 5, who had dropped a piece of unwashed broccoli or some kind of salad green on the floor of a supermarket, picked it up and was about to eat it. I stopped her by saying "Hey sweetie, don't do that its dirty!" She looked up at me and she was so sweet and cute I smiled and I reached into my basket to give her some grapes when her father rolled up and said "No it's fine kids need to build their immune system, it's ALRIGHT" and I looked at him in shock. The little girl looked at her dad like "wtf dad".

It was on the floor. On a visibly dirty floor streaked with dirt, grime and whatnot. In New York City. Where MDR TB, leptospirosis and several hantaviruses are common. In a supermarket, a place rodents are naturally attracted to so rodent urine and feces will be tracked about. Yes, no problem, just eat that unwashed broccoli floret that was on the floor because it's good for you! Unwashed greens? Ecoli is good for your immune system!

I just looked at this imbecile and said "OK! Right, whatever you say" and walked away while the cuck was insisting "No really, it's FINE!" because you know it was the mother who had talked him into this crunchy belief that ingesting dirty food is good for you. I'm all for kids playing outside, getting dirty and splashing around in the mud but when you come inside you head straight into the bath to wash all the dirt off. And let's not get into the risk of ecoli from unwashed greens.

The crunchy brigade has been quiet during the Wu Flu pandemic. I wonder why.
 
They're not entirely wrong about the breastfeeding part though.
Depends on what you mean. Yes, breastfeeding is preferable formula. Yes, having a baby longer at the breast (say about a year) is also probably a good idea. But these types of mom just go way overboard on some of these issues and expect society to bend over for them, or at least view them as being superior to "normie" moms.
 
Let’s talk about freebirthing!

It’s when you don’t have any medical attendant at birth, not even a poorly trained midwife.

They’re also opposed to inductions, which is when doctors start labor medically instead of having it happen naturally. The reason for this is because having the baby stay inside too long is bad. If you’re still pregnant by 41 weeks (39 is full term), doctors will induce.

Anyway, this lady was still pregnant at 45 weeks (!!) because people on the internet told her she should wait for it to happen naturally and the baby died. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...ctors-online-groups-convinced-her-it-n1140096

She’s not the only one.
 
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