Vic Mignogna fired from Funimation & RoosterTeeth over accusations of sexual harassment

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Lots of text and sperging I guess.

I don't fucking know anymore. Back in January I thought it was hard to believe that Vic was a bad guy but then I read for hours about stuff he would have done. He seems like a huge diva and a cunt to con staff, that much seems true and believable when I read what people are saying. Con staff have nothing to gain from lying. To be fair, a couple of cons have shit planning, so who knows? Risembool Rangers (his fanclub) sounds shady too but there's not enough details on it and stories could be fake. Neil Kaplan saying getting Vic climbing on his shoulders for fun was rude and he didn't ask before seems legit too, although Neil should just have said he wasn't ready or comfortable for the idea back when it happened.

Then there's all the sexual allegations. This thing has been going on since the early 2000s with over a hundred stories about him being handsy. Surely some of them are real, right? Makes the whole thing believable. But unlike the stories about him being a cunt and a diva, the stories about sexual harassment mostly sound fishy, they're all similar. It's as if there was a tutorial out there on how to fabricate a story. That or they're all looking at the previously submitted stories and try to copy the homework but change it a little so nobody notices.

It irks me because yeah I wanna believe survivors and see justice delivered but how the fuck do I believe something that's fake? If Vic is truly guilty, making up fake stories is not helping at all. It would make the real stories less believable. Also I get that rape victims are silent because they feel completely destroyed, ashamed, scared, wary and get shitty self-esteem and lose confidence in themselves, but if you got kissed on the cheek and you feel uncomfortable, you only feel uncomfortable. You're not assaulted and penetrated, you don't need courage to say "umm you're getting too personal I'm not comfortable with kisses on my cheek or a hand around my waist".

It is entirely possible he could abuse his status and fame to put his hand under a skirt or grope a boob when no one's looking or when he is alone. Who is going to believe the victim? That's the kind of scenario that makes me think he could be guilty. But then nope, lots of fishy homework-copies of the same stories, and oh, let's drop this "only 6% of rape accusations are fake, I stand with the victims!" Since when do we believe those random statistics online? Also 6% doesn't mean that 6% of the allegations against him are fake, it means that 6% of every allegations against anyone are fake. Half of his allegations could be fake and be part of that 6%. All of it could be part of the 6%.

Then comes Monica and I don't believe her for a second. She does not come out to tell her story like a victim. She drops it like an argument against someone on twitter. "O-oh you don't believe the allegations against him?! W-well I'm one of his victims! Haha what do you have to say against that?!" It totally sounds like this to me. Don't even need to talk about her childish twitter crusade with homeland security, calling her lawyers or how she seemed to be pretty friendly with Vic back in December. She thinks she's a hero but she's playing martyr to get attention and she's undermining any actual victim out there.

Tl;dr instead of trying to pick a side I'm just gonna eat popcorn watching all this until something make actual sense because both sides seems r.etarded rn
 
How did I miss this thread?:\

I've heard stuff about Vic's shenanigans for years and years, going back to CGL. All kinds of stories that he was kissing and groping teenage girls yet his crazed Risembool Rangers defended him no matter what. And I also heard the stories about what a pain in the ass he is.

I don't keep track of VAs really. I know a few because I see them listed in credits a lot. But I can't really recite their names by heart. I know Vic mainly from the controversy as he was always being talked about on CGL. This is just stuff that came to light. It was already known for a long time.
 
That's true in a lot of cases, but the main issue here is one of leadership (or lack thereof). While a number of companies have seen failure because they don't control their danger hairs, the responsibility for failing to do that rests entirely on said leadership.

So I don't feel the slightest pang of sympathy if the company gets fucked financially because they won't put their tards on a leash. In time, and with enough money lost, the greatest degree of resistance these people will face will come from their own employers.

I think that's when they'll try and morph this SJW bullshit into a generic anti-capitalist crusade. At which point, good luck finding a job anywhere of note.

...Which is already happening.

If you look at Buzzfeed and similar outlets that are laying off their shitty self-proclaimed Journos en masse, the response has been to attempt to argue for unionization on the part of the employees that remain, an action that is going to just make Buzzfeed lay off more staff. You have dipshits like Jim Sterling arguing that this is not proof that maybe a bunch of qualification-less speds who write articles like this one aren't exactly critical and could be replaced with a bunch of high schoolers without consequence, but rather that Capitalism is unsustainable.

The fucking entitlement on display has been amazing, and they keep thinking that they're just going to get bailed out, over and over again, because they're the all-important mouthpieces and bitch loudly enough. The thing is, the system they were part of was already at its breaking point and they don't understand why that system was about to collapsein the first place. One of their biggest defenses in this whole campaign was that even if they failed entirely, they had attached themselves to companies that (they assumed) were too big to fail, and since many of these companies are now staffed by ideologues in mid-level positions, they had cover. They could afford to be loss leaders since the coffers were stocked. That, as has been established, is not the case anymore.
 
Risembool Rangers? What kind of butt piracy is this bullshit?

It's named after the hometown of Edward, Vic's character. I don't know who started it or why that came to be, but that's the connection. It's similar to how Travis Willingham has the "Miniskirt Army" because of the Roy Mustang fangirls.
 
It irks me because yeah I wanna believe survivors and see justice delivered but how the fuck do I believe something that's fake? If Vic is truly guilty, making up fake stories is not helping at all. It would make the real stories less believable.
This is really a core issue with the #MeToo movement at large. Everyone wants true victims of sexual assault to come forward with their stories so that justice can be served, but when their story gets clumped together with embellished or patently false ones, the truth can get buried under the nonsense.

If you believe you have been a victim of sexual assault, tell your story soon; don't wait for a bunch of others to accuse your accuser first. But, more importantly, tell your story honestly, including the parts which might be unflattering to you. It's the right thing to do.
Risembool Rangers? What kind of butt piracy is this bullshit?
https://www.risemboolrangers.com

I have no idea what the name means.
 
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Ok, so he is (allegedly) a spoiled brat who treats his staff very rudely ...

Yeah, still no evidence of him being a rapist or sexual predator.

The Me Too movement has clearly devolved into calling "everyone I don't like" the worst thing possible. People these days seem lost on the fact that you can totally call someone an asshole WITHOUT needing to call that same person a rapist. Jesus Christ.
 
Lots of text and sperging I guess.

I don't fucking know anymore. Back in January I thought it was hard to believe that Vic was a bad guy but then I read for hours about stuff he would have done. He seems like a huge diva and a cunt to con staff, that much seems true and believable when I read what people are saying. Con staff have nothing to gain from lying. To be fair, a couple of cons have shit planning, so who knows? Risembool Rangers (his fanclub) sounds shady too but there's not enough details on it and stories could be fake. Neil Kaplan saying getting Vic climbing on his shoulders for fun was rude and he didn't ask before seems legit too, although Neil should just have said he wasn't ready or comfortable for the idea back when it happened.

Then there's all the sexual allegations. This thing has been going on since the early 2000s with over a hundred stories about him being handsy. Surely some of them are real, right? Makes the whole thing believable. But unlike the stories about him being a cunt and a diva, the stories about sexual harassment mostly sound fishy, they're all similar. It's as if there was a tutorial out there on how to fabricate a story. That or they're all looking at the previously submitted stories and try to copy the homework but change it a little so nobody notices.

It irks me because yeah I wanna believe survivors and see justice delivered but how the fuck do I believe something that's fake? If Vic is truly guilty, making up fake stories is not helping at all. It would make the real stories less believable. Also I get that rape victims are silent because they feel completely destroyed, ashamed, scared, wary and get shitty self-esteem and lose confidence in themselves, but if you got kissed on the cheek and you feel uncomfortable, you only feel uncomfortable. You're not assaulted and penetrated, you don't need courage to say "umm you're getting too personal I'm not comfortable with kisses on my cheek or a hand around my waist".

It is entirely possible he could abuse his status and fame to put his hand under a skirt or grope a boob when no one's looking or when he is alone. Who is going to believe the victim? That's the kind of scenario that makes me think he could be guilty. But then nope, lots of fishy homework-copies of the same stories, and oh, let's drop this "only 6% of rape accusations are fake, I stand with the victims!" Since when do we believe those random statistics online? Also 6% doesn't mean that 6% of the allegations against him are fake, it means that 6% of every allegations against anyone are fake. Half of his allegations could be fake and be part of that 6%. All of it could be part of the 6%.

Then comes Monica and I don't believe her for a second. She does not come out to tell her story like a victim. She drops it like an argument against someone on twitter. "O-oh you don't believe the allegations against him?! W-well I'm one of his victims! Haha what do you have to say against that?!" It totally sounds like this to me. Don't even need to talk about her childish twitter crusade with homeland security, calling her lawyers or how she seemed to be pretty friendly with Vic back in December. She thinks she's a hero but she's playing martyr to get attention and she's undermining any actual victim out there.

Tl;dr instead of trying to pick a side I'm just gonna eat popcorn watching all this until something make actual sense because both sides seems r.etarded rn
Likewise. I mean his supporters include a supposed creeper pool, some guys who get into petty bitchfits with voice actors and other anime losers, and 4Chan's /co/ board of all things. And his detractors include a male VA with a noted ego problem, a bunch of yaoi artists who are fucking idiots for wanting anyone to sign their shit, Conventions who are run by r.etards who want to arrest people against their opinions, a self-proclaimed "#1 Anime news site" and its braindead staff and the woman who butchered Prison School (which is a bad anime either way) with a GamerGate joke.

So yeah, I'm in my own party- the "I want to see who gets ousted from either side" party.
 
Little late to the party here but having followed nicky rackets stream and what other people are saying this sounds alot like a brigading of "christian man bad". Bunch of jealous voice actors have realized they can use social justice to get rid of a professional rival.
 
I’ve heard that Sean Schemmel is a dick and this just cements the fact. Props to the actually smart VAs who are staying quiet about this whole thing.
It seems that way. I found this on 4chan a little while ago, apparently he had a meltdown and deleted his twitter once:

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Even after reading through the whole thread, I'm still not convinced one way or the other, but thanks to you kiwis for gathering all the information into one place.

I could easily see Vic being one of those really obnoxious evangelists who gets on people's nerves.
I haven't seen it mentioned yet, but he reads from an infamous contemporary version of the Bible called The Message. Just for fun, here's a video I found of him reading the Gospel of John (corresponding text). I think he's handed out discs featuring his narration on at least one occasion.
 
Allegations of his creepiness have existed LONG before #metoo and I heard of them in con circles nearly 10 years ago. There's literally pictures of him kissing underage fans (who at the time, being young girls with weeb crushes obv consented.) I think a lot of the exaggerated stories come from girls regretting liking him and, wanting their own MeToo, will spin it to be nonconcensual (though I wouldn't doubt he did kiss/touch girls without permission since he's demonstrably into them). Regardless it's still fucked up and creepy (imagine the stuff he actually bothers to be on the DL about) and I think you guys are really fatigued from MeToo and bandwagoners falsely accusing famous men for attention and money or whatever that you forget sexual harassment/assault, especially at one time events where it doesn't occur regularly and where harassment is normal, is extremely hard to prove.

I seriously doubt Monica's story, were like a year into the movement why would she wait so long, only when everyone else is talking about him? She's a big figure in the VA biz she should've been the one to rekindle this conversation instead of hopping on the train.
 
It seems that way. I found this on 4chan a little while ago, apparently he had a meltdown and deleted his twitter once:

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Wow, for a guy who voices such a happy-go-lucky character, he's awfully irritable. I do love Sabat's response though. Between this and Eric Vale, Sabat seems like he enjoys riling up his coworkers on Twitter.

How long ago was this? I don't see anything regarding dates and I'm curious.
 
How long ago was this?
I looked up the reddit thread, it was two years ago:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/52uv9p/sean_schemnel_the_english_voice_of_goku_has/

Edit: I just found another reddit thread discussing what a twat he is:
https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/81jq6t/peter_kelamis_has_been_forced_to_cancel_his/
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Edit: Mirror of the original message.

Schemmel has yet to deny being the person Kelamis is referring to, tweeting "fuck off" to people "calling him out", which he quickly deleted. Schemmel has been indirectly "called out" by many fellow voice actors, including Sean Chiplock, Kaiji Tang and Alejandro Saab.

In a response to a meme depicting him removing Kelamis from Kameha Con, Schemmel replied with this tweet, saying that ultimately it was Kameha Con's decision since, as a guest, he cannot ban people. When asked directly if he was the person Kelamis was referring to, Schemmel declined to answer.

Peter Kelamis has yet to mention Schemmel by name, but has liked a Tweet asking if he was the one responsible. We also know that Schemmel has blocked Kelamis on Twitter, which matches Kelamis' letter. It's been an open secret for years that other "dub Goku" actors aren't to be at cons with Schemmel.

Schemmel then began engaging fans criticizing his Goku Black voice. This went on for about 15 minutes, after which Schemmel began to delete his tweets using Tweet Delete. Moments later, Kelamis tweeted that he will be attending after all, as "the pertinent parties" have spoken on the phone and "cleared the air". This likely happened during the 24 hour gap between Schemmel liking this supportive tweet and deleting every Tweet he's ever made.

We will continue to reach out to Schemmel and hope he denies his involvement.

Update: Kameha Con has formally announced Schemmel's attendance, and thanked him for his "professional" behavior.
 
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