Redesigning Floraverse - Because PK is a fucking idiot

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but we knew Joop got called in for a talk and put on probation - I just assumed that meant they had limited access to the discord as a result.

oh this part is true though, im on probation so i have access to limited channels now. i also lost the ability to moderate the websites- dont know if or when ill ever get that back
 
And yet, so many people in this thread seem to be very worried that we'll be going after them. Can you imagine the paranoia on both sides? to one side, the others are brainwashed lackies who do some asshole's evil will, and to another side, the others are these foaming-at-the-mouth psychopaths who rejoice after a murder. You can probably see why I'd really like people to realize that they're just seeing monsters. No one can communicate with the other if there's misgivings and a lack of common ground. Afterall, both sides want the other to listen, so why not help bridge that gap a little?

I'm not paranoid about Floraverse fans.

I'm wary about PK, Eevee and their toadie Opa.
 
Does Opa have any real sway or power?

It's not so much that as much as I just don't like how..... draining? his personality is? He tends to parrot a lot of what Glip says and that can't have anything but a negative impact on the drawpile

Also it's kind of a weird flex to dump Opa in an event where kiwis and floraverse fans are having some sort of "Christmas truce" but... ok
 
It's less his sway and more the power move his presence represents.
That's fair. I assume he's a higher up in the flora discord.

It's not so much that as much as I just don't like how..... draining? his personality is? He tends to parrot a lot of what Glip says and that can't have anything but a negative impact on the drawpile

Also it's kind of a weird flex to dump Opa in an event where kiwis and floraverse fans are having some sort of "Christmas truce" but... ok

Did he not shut up in the original drawpile?

And yeah, the truce is probably a falsehood, at-least in part. It's more-so if Glip / Eevee have something to due with it's inception. I'd love to see the reaction of Glip if she has no idea what's going on. They'd probably be pissed Ora Ora is even talking to us.
 
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Did he not shut up in the original drawpile?

And yeah, the truce is probably a falsehood, at-least in part. It's more-so if Glip / Eevee have something to due with it's inception. I'd love to see the reaction of Glip if she has no idea what's going on. They'd probably be pissed Ora Ora is even talking to us.

The drawpile was tame. Ora only really talking about how to do this and that. Twee talked about how she was happy. She talked about shes glad to see us change. I think thats what she said but really her perception changed. Also talked about how shes been watching this thread for a long time. I left before it ended.
 
The drawpile was tame. Ora only really talking about how to do this and that. Twee talked about how she was happy. She talked about shes glad to see us change. I think thats what she said but really her perception changed. Also talked about how shes been watching this thread for a long time. I left before it ended.
Idek how anyone changed by attending the drawpile on either side, though the obsession with our change is kinda concerning.
 
Idek how anyone changed by attending the drawpile on either side, though the obsession with our change is kinda concerning.
You really need to build up your ego before coming in here trying to change people's mind. One person with a hope for chance against how many people are on the other thread who ready to give their opinions with their supporting evidence against it.

Its hard to like glip but her community hasn't done anything wrong. This is the game.
 
I honestly feel sympathy for a lot of the Floraverse community. After a few of them came to the forum for one reason or another, I noticed they really do sound like we're dealing with a cult, or at least, an extreme cult mentality. Only exceptions of my sympathy are the top dogs like Eevee and Opa.

I respect the effort here, but we really don't have beef with the floraverse community as a whole, and like hell a drawpile session or two is going to make me forget what Glip allowed to happen, what they did to Lain, what Eevee argued for, or how Opa completely disregarded Lain, BigFluff, all of Marl's victims, and just, people who doesn't know in general who dislike Glip because "they don't know what real abuse is like, like what Glip experienced! :("
 
While I kinda believe that Opa wasn't really there to cause problems and just chill, I am curious if he knew that some of the people in the drawpile were kiwis. And if PK/Eevee knew a member of their server was inviting kiwis to a drawpile.
I mean, while PK did draw someone's Beleth from here, she doesn't seem to know it came from here specifically. @Good Intentions are PK/Eevee/Opa out of the loop?
 
The drawpile was tame. Ora only really talking about how to do this and that. Twee talked about how she was happy. She talked about shes glad to see us change. I think thats what she said but really her perception changed. Also talked about how shes been watching this thread for a long time. I left before it ended.

Idek how anyone changed by attending the drawpile on either side, though the obsession with our change is kinda concerning.

My thoughts exactly. I think that there are people in PK's camp wanting less backlash, so they're aiming their sights at us. We'll only know for sure once Good Intentions actually bothers to answer Catastrophe's question
 
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