Megathread TERFs / Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists / Gender Critical Feminists - ft. r/GenderCritical & related reddits, Mancheeze, Cathy Brennan, GCDad, RadFHarva, Jamie Shupe, etc; "Gender Critical Feminism is Homophobic" - Cathy Brennan, 2019.

WOLF posted a response explaining why they partnered up with the fundies:

The educational outreach and argument portion of political activism is important, but it’s not more important than delivering results. Whereas, if you don’t deliver results, or at least make a robust effort to do so, eventually you’re not going to have constituents. They’re going to go and support someone else.

I’d like to ask women in the radical or gender critical feminist movement who are critical of WoLF’s nonpartisan work to think about what the movement is going to deliver to those women whom feminists would like to have as constituents. Is it media content and political analysis? Is it social media groups or closed Reddit forums? I’ve enjoyed the company and insight of other women in these online spaces. Yet these are not experiences that people can’t get elsewhere, while also facing less risk of being doxxed and mobbed by crazed, leftist men with a god-complex.

We don’t agree with conservatives on abortion, marriage equality, or what to do about redressing racial injustice. We don’t agree with the left on the sex industry, surrogacy, or gender identity. The group of people who agree with us on all of these topics at once, even in the US, is minuscule, and we are nowhere fully represented in government.
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Self-identification, already the law in several states and in many facilities that accept federal funding, which already results in grave medical harms to children, may be rolled out nationwide within the next three to four years through the gender identity provisions of the Equality Act. This is very little time in which to avert this outcome, if it’s possible, when the opposition has been organizing for over a decade, supported by nearly 13,000 grants from over 500 foundations, corporations, and government entities. If we can fight this, it will take many of us meeting with officials at the local, state, and federal levels. It will take women being willing to speak out under our own names and hold or show up to meetings, or testify at hearings, to peacefully assert our principles.

http://womensliberationfront.org/shunning-and-democracy/​

So their argument for partnering with the fundies is that troons are too powerful and too wealthy for TERFs to take on by themselves. Fundies have money and influence, TERFs have none, so they decided to partner up with their enemies. They talk about "delivering results", I don't know what that refers to. What "results" do fundies have in mind, other than denying abortions to women and gay marriage to homos? I guess WOLF fantasize about fundies having the power to shut down gender clinics like they did with abortion clinics, but look, fundies are still picketing outside abortion clinics, there are no fundies picketing outside of gender clinics. No trans person walking into a gender clinic will be met by hordes of fundies praying and pushing a leaflet into their hands shouting "Please Sir, don't kill your penis, Jesus loves you the way you are.". What do WOLF mean saying they are partnering with fundies to "deliver results"?
 
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Let's remind everyone of Meghan's actual track record on Twitter.

Here is one the first times Meghan got her account restricted on Twitter for misgendering a troon:

https://twitter.com/DrMeaganTyler/status/1035346595762470913

She pretends that the latest ban is the first time this has happened when it's obviously not.

The fact that she and her TERF crew participated and initiated dogpiles was known for years:

The abuse I see from Meghan Murphy's supporters ably demonstrates why Rabble is better off without her
https://twitter.com/trapdinawrpool/status/794572714958786560​

Meghan was notorious on Twitter as the feminist with some of the most rabid followers:

Remember when #transcult accused @MeghanEMurphy of commanding a "fascist army of trolls"?
https://twitter.com/PatriarchTree/status/986199491974959104​

There is no similar leftist horde when it comes to the swarming, harassing abuse online. Not even Meghan Murphy's sycophants come close.
https://twitter.com/NoLore/status/828966796002750464​

Responses to denials from Meghan that TERFs actually hate troons, followed by legal threats from Meghan:

Meghan Murphy claims that the term 'TERF' is hate speech.
Could she clarify whether Ann Ruzylo's alleged remark that trans women are 'hateful misogynist bastards' is hate speech?
https://twitter.com/RozKaveney/status/960450865751568384

I'll be blunt about Meghan Murphy - based on my experiences with her over the years, she is both a hater and a complete hypocrite (she's tried to have other people banned before, threatened defamation suits, etc). That said, Twitter had no business banning her over that tweet.
https://twitter.com/iamcuriousblue/status/1066787901734875136

@emmaggarland yeah it's absolutely brilliant. Meghan Murphy has threatened legal action on the writer, obvz ??
https://twitter.com/tyskiesour/status/593898487504330752

NEVER "@" name Meghan Murphy, or any other person likely to claim that twitter "interactions" are equal to harassment. Please.
https://twitter.com/FemWho/status/301908805090934784

Someone, somewhere: Wow, TERFs suck.
Meghan Murphy out of nowhere: This is harassment against me personally.
https://twitter.com/queermel/status/927713610138128384​

Tweets about Meghan fighting with troons on Twitter:

You want to attack transgenders? I'm assuming you're very insecure about your own gender identity, Meghan. You come across as a bit of a playground bully to me. What is it you need to prove? Why are you so insecure? Why give a shit what anyone identifies as?
https://twitter.com/billymac187/status/1063228227991293952

Some people would call you a bully. How exactly our you doing at fight patriarchy and male supremacy? Not very well. I Ally with those that want to fight and end sexism. Scapegoating trans and queers will not end rape culture. I hope you feel good about your new friends.
https://twitter.com/SlingshotRat/status/1051979166105534465​

Here is Julie Rei Goldstein's tweet referring to Meghan as "the real hateful, childish bully"
https://twitter.com/JulieRei/status/1044468420710936576
(This is the same Julie who going to debate Meghan in a few weeks time)

Meghan's plan:
Step 1: want to be rich/famous
Step 2: find a niche to exploit
Step 3: Be a different kind of feminist. One who hates sex work, hates trans/non-binary, One that conservatives can quote.
Step 4: bully trans women to build my rep
Step 5: profit!
I'm on to you Bitch
https://twitter.com/Ms_SJWprincess/status/992616727010795520​

Meghan on Twitter fighting with various people about pornography/prostitution:

@meghanemurphy My point was that anytime there is a feminist debate, it devolves to porn V. anti-porn. It's easy for the media; its boring..
https://twitter.com/zoewhittall/status/67922047589826560

Here's one of Meghan's fellow radfems tweeting at some woman who supports sex workers telling her to suck a dick:
https://twitter.com/Katie_Speak/status/643153284589617152​

More arguments with sex workers:

@MeghanEMurphy You force your way into the conversations and LIVES of sex workers, troll them, then whine when people call out your bullshit
https://twitter.com/RaavynnDigitaL/status/435252190194569217​

Back in 2013 Meghan said that "we should consider the humanity of people we tweet about"... well, that all went to shit rather swiftly:

Do agree w/ @MeghanEMurphy we shld consider the humanity of ppl we tweet at or about. Wish #antichoice trolls wld do that! #twitterfeminism
https://twitter.com/morgmeneshets/status/413683886632087552​

Meghan calls pro-sex work feminists who disagree with her "trolls":

@rsellin @MeghanEMurphy Again, since literally anyone who disagrees with MM is a "troll", the term no longer has any actual meaning,amirite?
https://twitter.com/BobChaos23/status/332701120843612162

@rsellin @MeghanEMurphy Yes, because anyone who tries to dismantle flawed rhetoric that hurts sex workers is a "troll". #BeenThereDoneThat
https://twitter.com/BobChaos23/status/332697455894355969

@MeghanEMurphy Except...yes you did? And then you called pro-sex work feminists "trolls" for not agreeing with you.
https://twitter.com/jaythenerdkid/status/332347831711059969

@MeghanEMurphy @blk_bk Predicting your next move: I attacked you. I'm a tool of the patriarchy, and a troll and bully to boot. Yes?
https://twitter.com/MerryMissLissie/status/332332768690331648

This is @MeghanEMurphy's audience telling me to go suck a dick
https://twitter.com/Katie_Speak/status/643177201668620288​

Meghan misgendering asshole trans activist Zinnia Jones (who deserves it, but she's denying she ever did this):

So the trap-loving porn-addled anime-avatared brogressive trolls who follow this ?? dude are now ganging up on @MeghanEMurphy
https://twitter.com/GabeBlessing/status/872623283086266368​

Here are troons complaining about Meghan misgendering them on Twitter back in 2017:

@MeghanEMurphy @Diana_Fire_
You misgendered a WOC, a trans woman.That is not a lie. You've done this multi times to mult people. Yr a bully. Their life is not a lie
https://twitter.com/danusiattacks/status/896837563549335553

Yr whole platform, the things you write about are set to bully and dehumanize actual human lives. These are people. These aren't arguments
https://twitter.com/danusiattacks/status/896837193024495616

But you bully and dehumanize trans folk by misgendering them and harassing them. So you get to oppress folks? Just leave ppl alone
https://twitter.com/danusiattacks/status/896835277657825280

@MeghanEMurphy @Diana_Fire_
You misgendered Kat. Continuously. You went after Roxane for supporting her humanity. Why r u a bully?
https://twitter.com/danusiattacks/status/896835277657825280​

Someone calling Meghan a bully and a hack back in 2015:

@MeghanEMurphy You're a bully and a halfwit hack. Go play victim elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/thewayoftheid/status/591428832118362112​

I think it’s clear why. You are just ignoring it and using your self imposed victimization to continue to bully and harass trans individuals. Also you are encouraging your supporters to bully and harass and that it’s ok to deny individuals their own personal experiences.
https://twitter.com/AllMustBeFree/status/1063833671830892545​

"Autistic" is any TERF who continues to deny that Meghan Murphy already had a shitty reputation long before she got banned. It should be obvious from these tweets that Meghan had a terrible reputation on Twitter for years. All of this went into Twitter's decision to ban her. The fact is that Meghan was not banned for a tweet about Ballwaxer or for saying that men are not women, she was rather banned over the cumulative effect of the way she has conducted herself on Twitter all these years.

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I see potential.
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Don't. Notice how TERFs never respond to any of my criticism and to only come here to tag my posts as "autistic"? TERFs are absolutists, you are either with them or you are with the troons. They don't understand that there are people who are critical towards troons as well as TERFs. They don't understand that there are people who do not see TERFs as the good guys and trannies as the bad guys, but rather see them as two competing SJW cults who both want to control the public discourse according to their own ideology. Make no mistake, TERFs are extremely censorious themselves, hence Meghan threatening to sue her enemies in the above tweets, in the end Twitter became her enemy so she sued them. This is a thread that is supposed to be about TERF bullshit but they come here as a group to mass-flag as "autistic" anyone who actually criticizes their bullshit. These people don't play fair. Anyway, I wanted to post these tweets, since anything I post here no matter how sincere or informed is going to be mass-flagged as "autistic" anyway. Suffice to say I and many others know exactly why Meghan got banned. We knew she had it coming. I obviously disagree with this kind of censorship because people should have freedom of speech in principle, but Meghan needs to stop being disingenuous about why it happened or what Twitter were referring to when they said they had researched her when they decided to ban her. Everything you see here went into their decision.
 
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Don't. Notice how TERFs never respond to any of my criticism and to only come here to tag my posts as "autistic"?
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The part you were replying to, where I said I see potential, was just regarding their hypocrisy and 'outing' one of the more prolific GC posters as a man, or at least they would consider the person as such since they have a Y chromosome.

I agree many TERFs are kind of insane....they remind me of the racist grandparent archetype. Just set in their ways and incapable of learning something new. They are the only ones speaking out though about hulking men competing with petite women, which is obivoulsy insanity, and so they are drawing in a lot of other women.

This is all going to settle down in a few years. None of it is really that interesting. Many terfs will remain hateful and clsoe-minded no matter what happens (Hey Yisheng! Need a drink yet?), the trender fucks will be driven back and end becoming incels or whatever the hell, medical technology will advance and allow greater levels of 'passing', the world will adapt because most people are not insane and hateful, and then we're living in the future folks.

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i will give them this: at least they're right about transgenderism not being an actual thing, but are exceptional in other ways.
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I think being transgender is a thing.

It's just all the trender shit that is lumped under the same umbrella is not a thing
 
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doxxingboozebabe said:
Trenders are just incels I think. With a fetish and a greater sense of entitlement.

But yeah they came in and kicked all the genuine trans people out. Kind of amazing.
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It makes sense when you think about it. If there's one thing narcissists are good at, it's making everything all about them.
 
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Nykysnottrans said:
Let's remind everyone of Meghan's actual track record on Twitter.

Here is one the first times Meghan got her account restricted on Twitter for misgendering a troon:

https://twitter.com/DrMeaganTyler/status/1035346595762470913

She pretends that the latest ban is the first time this has happened when it's obviously not.

The fact that she and her TERF crew participated and initiated dogpiles was known for years:

The abuse I see from Meghan Murphy's supporters ably demonstrates why Rabble is better off without her
https://twitter.com/trapdinawrpool/status/794572714958786560​

Meghan was notorious on Twitter as the feminist with some of the most rabid followers:

Remember when #transcult accused @MeghanEMurphy of commanding a "fascist army of trolls"?
https://twitter.com/PatriarchTree/status/986199491974959104​

There is no similar leftist horde when it comes to the swarming, harassing abuse online. Not even Meghan Murphy's sycophants come close.
https://twitter.com/NoLore/status/828966796002750464​

Responses to denials from Meghan that TERFs actually hate troons, followed by legal threats from Meghan:

Meghan Murphy claims that the term 'TERF' is hate speech.
Could she clarify whether Ann Ruzylo's alleged remark that trans women are 'hateful misogynist bastards' is hate speech?
https://twitter.com/RozKaveney/status/960450865751568384

I'll be blunt about Meghan Murphy - based on my experiences with her over the years, she is both a hater and a complete hypocrite (she's tried to have other people banned before, threatened defamation suits, etc). That said, Twitter had no business banning her over that tweet.
https://twitter.com/iamcuriousblue/status/1066787901734875136

@emmaggarland yeah it's absolutely brilliant. Meghan Murphy has threatened legal action on the writer, obvz ??
https://twitter.com/tyskiesour/status/593898487504330752

NEVER "@" name Meghan Murphy, or any other person likely to claim that twitter "interactions" are equal to harassment. Please.
https://twitter.com/FemWho/status/301908805090934784

Someone, somewhere: Wow, TERFs suck.
Meghan Murphy out of nowhere: This is harassment against me personally.
https://twitter.com/queermel/status/927713610138128384​

Tweets about Meghan fighting with troons on Twitter:

You want to attack transgenders? I'm assuming you're very insecure about your own gender identity, Meghan. You come across as a bit of a playground bully to me. What is it you need to prove? Why are you so insecure? Why give a shit what anyone identifies as?
https://twitter.com/billymac187/status/1063228227991293952

Some people would call you a bully. How exactly our you doing at fight patriarchy and male supremacy? Not very well. I Ally with those that want to fight and end sexism. Scapegoating trans and queers will not end rape culture. I hope you feel good about your new friends.
https://twitter.com/SlingshotRat/status/1051979166105534465​

Here is Julie Rei Goldstein's tweet referring to Meghan as "the real hateful, childish bully"
https://twitter.com/JulieRei/status/1044468420710936576
(This is the same Julie who going to debate Meghan in a few weeks time)

Meghan's plan:
Step 1: want to be rich/famous
Step 2: find a niche to exploit
Step 3: Be a different kind of feminist. One who hates sex work, hates trans/non-binary, One that conservatives can quote.
Step 4: bully trans women to build my rep
Step 5: profit!
I'm on to you Bitch
https://twitter.com/Ms_SJWprincess/status/992616727010795520​

Meghan on Twitter fighting with various people about pornography/prostitution:

@meghanemurphy My point was that anytime there is a feminist debate, it devolves to porn V. anti-porn. It's easy for the media; its boring..
https://twitter.com/zoewhittall/status/67922047589826560

Here's one of Meghan's fellow radfems tweeting at some woman who supports sex workers telling her to suck a dick:
https://twitter.com/Katie_Speak/status/643153284589617152​

More arguments with sex workers:

@MeghanEMurphy You force your way into the conversations and LIVES of sex workers, troll them, then whine when people call out your bullshit
https://twitter.com/RaavynnDigitaL/status/435252190194569217​

Back in 2013 Meghan said that "we should consider the humanity of people we tweet about"... well, that all went to shit rather swiftly:

Do agree w/ @MeghanEMurphy we shld consider the humanity of ppl we tweet at or about. Wish #antichoice trolls wld do that! #twitterfeminism
https://twitter.com/morgmeneshets/status/413683886632087552​

Meghan calls pro-sex work feminists who disagree with her "trolls":

@rsellin @MeghanEMurphy Again, since literally anyone who disagrees with MM is a "troll", the term no longer has any actual meaning,amirite?
https://twitter.com/BobChaos23/status/332701120843612162

@rsellin @MeghanEMurphy Yes, because anyone who tries to dismantle flawed rhetoric that hurts sex workers is a "troll". #BeenThereDoneThat
https://twitter.com/BobChaos23/status/332697455894355969

@MeghanEMurphy Except...yes you did? And then you called pro-sex work feminists "trolls" for not agreeing with you.
https://twitter.com/jaythenerdkid/status/332347831711059969

@MeghanEMurphy @blk_bk Predicting your next move: I attacked you. I'm a tool of the patriarchy, and a troll and bully to boot. Yes?
https://twitter.com/MerryMissLissie/status/332332768690331648

This is @MeghanEMurphy's audience telling me to go suck a dick
https://twitter.com/Katie_Speak/status/643177201668620288​

Meghan misgendering asshole trans activist Zinnia Jones (who deserves it, but she's denying she ever did this):

So the trap-loving porn-addled anime-avatared brogressive trolls who follow this ?? dude are now ganging up on @MeghanEMurphy
https://twitter.com/GabeBlessing/status/872623283086266368​

Here are troons complaining about Meghan misgendering them on Twitter back in 2017:

@MeghanEMurphy @Diana_Fire_
You misgendered a WOC, a trans woman.That is not a lie. You've done this multi times to mult people. Yr a bully. Their life is not a lie
https://twitter.com/danusiattacks/status/896837563549335553

Yr whole platform, the things you write about are set to bully and dehumanize actual human lives. These are people. These aren't arguments
https://twitter.com/danusiattacks/status/896837193024495616

But you bully and dehumanize trans folk by misgendering them and harassing them. So you get to oppress folks? Just leave ppl alone
https://twitter.com/danusiattacks/status/896835277657825280

@MeghanEMurphy @Diana_Fire_
You misgendered Kat. Continuously. You went after Roxane for supporting her humanity. Why r u a bully?
https://twitter.com/danusiattacks/status/896835277657825280​

Someone calling Meghan a bully and a hack back in 2015:

@MeghanEMurphy You're a bully and a halfwit hack. Go play victim elsewhere.
https://twitter.com/thewayoftheid/status/591428832118362112​

I think it’s clear why. You are just ignoring it and using your self imposed victimization to continue to bully and harass trans individuals. Also you are encouraging your supporters to bully and harass and that it’s ok to deny individuals their own personal experiences.
https://twitter.com/AllMustBeFree/status/1063833671830892545​

"Autistic" is any TERF who continues to deny that Meghan Murphy already had a shitty reputation long before she got banned. It should be obvious from these tweets that Meghan had a terrible reputation on Twitter for years. All of this went into Twitter's decision to ban her. The fact is that Meghan was not banned for a tweet about Ballwaxer or for saying that men are not women, she was rather banned over the cumulative effect of the way she has conducted herself on Twitter all these years.



Don't. Notice how TERFs never respond to any of my criticism and to only come here to tag my posts as "autistic"? TERFs are absolutists, you are either with them or you are with the troons. They don't understand that there are people who are critical towards troons as well as TERFs. They don't understand that there are people who do not see TERFs as the good guys and trannies as the bad guys, but rather see them as two competing SJW cults who both want to control the public discourse according to their own ideology. Make no mistake, TERFs are extremely censorious themselves, hence Meghan threatening to sue her enemies in the above tweets, in the end Twitter became her enemy so she sued them. This is a thread that is supposed to be about TERF bullshit but they come here as a group to mass-flag as "autistic" anyone who actually criticizes their bullshit. These people don't play fair. Anyway, I wanted to post these tweets, since anything I post here no matter how sincere or informed is going to be mass-flagged as "autistic" anyway. Suffice to say I and many others know exactly why Meghan got banned. We knew she had it coming. I obviously disagree with this kind of censorship because people should have freedom of speech in principle, but Meghan needs to stop being disingenuous about why it happened or what Twitter were referring to when they said they had researched her when they decided to ban her. Everything you see here went into their decision.
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Great job convincing us you're not autistic, my dude.
 
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good point. its just such a rarity to see a legitimate trans person vs a troon now. i know they're there, and don't like the trenders representing them.
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OK then, where are they? Where are they saying, hmm, Jonathan Yaniv doesn't represent us? I can count on ONE HAND those who've come out against Yaniv.
 
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Barabbas said:
https://icemountainfire.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/men-are-not-broken/
reeeeeeeeeeeeee......
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-says men are inferior and even academic men are stupid.
-uses wikipedia and the daily mail as referances.

She almost writes like a caricature, I'd almost suggest it was a fake page but I've seen this type before. If I had the money I'd fund her setting up the absurd pretend lesbian commune cult just to watch it implode when they realize they just suck at getting along with people and the misandry was just a way of rationalizing it.

EDIT-Just realized she's a migtow but with even less self awareness.
 
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-says men are inferior and even academic men are stupid.
-uses wikipedia and the daily mail as referances.

She almost writes like a caricature, I'd almost suggest it was a fake page but I've seen this type before. If I had the money I'd fund her setting up the absurd pretend lesbian commune cult just to watch it implode when they realize they just suck at getting along with people and the misandry was just a way of rationalizing it.

EDIT-Just realized she's a migtow but with even less self awareness.
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"
If you are male, your comment will not be published.

If you are a male, but claim you are female, your comment will not be published.

If you seem female, but I get the impression you are male, your comment will not be published.

If you are female, but not radically identified, your comment will not be published.

If I don’t like your comment for any random reason, it will not be published."
yeeesh
 
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Emperor Julian said:
-says men are inferior and even academic men are stupid.
-uses wikipedia and the daily mail as referances.

She almost writes like a caricature, I'd almost suggest it was a fake page but I've seen this type before. If I had the money I'd fund her setting up the absurd pretend lesbian commune cult just to watch it implode when they realize they just suck at getting along with people and the misandry was just a way of rationalizing it.

EDIT-Just realized she's a migtow but with even less self awareness.
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That's not her page, just something she agrees with.

Her page is http://assholesovertheedge.wordpress.com

I'm working on it.

I have a few GC accounts to build up reputation and trust. It's super easy to just parrot out terf rhetoric and get karma and trust.
 
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