Furry Fandom and Drama General

KhordKitty said:
I STILL think it'd be hilarious to see the faces of those babyfurs if I brought my kids in. That'd be so funny. But I scrapped the idea when people started posting about "CALL CPS!". It's really exceptional. It's just a testament to the fact that a LOT of furries really have no sense of humor. If you don't think me telling a babyfur "Hey, look! I have a REAL babyfur! Poser!" isn't funny then I don't know what to tell you. I guess I have my sense of humor is different from yours.
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Pedophile-infested or not, ABDL is still adults-only and fetish-centered. It's inappropriate to bring a kid to anything related to that. You don't just have a different sense of humor, you're oblivious as to why any rational person, even furries, would see you as disgusting for considering the idea.

Shouldn't you be taking care of your kids instead of trying to prove to an autism forum that you're totally not a waste of oxygen?
 
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Again, KKC was already a bit sketchy when they were retweeting a furry watch list where Kabs' only offense was a dumb and flase accusation of transphobia and a few other people were simply for being right wing (when a lot of those alt-furries have much worse skeletons in their closets). Ever since I've taken some of their stuff with a grain of salt, even if they've been mostly accurate until now. Regardless, I saw some political bias seeping in back then, and I fear various other agendas will become the forefront of their crusade.

There comes a time where a moral crusader becomes a witch hunter, and while they may do some good early on, even great goods, almost every single one will bite off more than they can chew and/or start grasping at straws just to reach the high that is feeling important and like they did some good for the world. I see KKC starting to go down that route these days. They should get out while they can.


It was more than dumb, though. It was an absolutely diluted and self-aggrandizing tweet showing that KKC was getting dick big delusion syndrome. Again. They should get out now while their contributions are mostly good ones before they become what every fandom crusader becomes.
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More political crap on her Twitter:
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Junius and others are now attacking KKC’s credibility and agenda. I have a strong feeling if this gets much bigger they’re gonna delete everything and vanish.

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I think the moral of the story is that if you're going to make a long ass post exposing somebody or something, don't faildox or post complete bullshit you didn't even fact check. KindKabsCorner made a huge mistake by not digging beyond the surface level, instead just going off people who might have had beastforum accounts without taking into account other factors such as impersonators and in doing so missed a lot of the juicy bits like Douglas Spink's money, Athus's dolphin sex video (which there's a whole lot of background here, part of which involved staff who were part of a zoophilia ring molesting animals at a theme park aquarium that made SeaWorld's animal scandals look like they're nothing, I literally found this in two minutes in Google), and more. This led to them getting distracted and calling out a whole lot of people who likely had little to do with any zoophilia.

Also Kamo's IIRC not even with Bad Dragon anymore or at least he's no longer their director and they're not on their official state filing document either.

Also lol:
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KhordKitty said:
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hey im not reading all that but if you are a dad im going to be real with you

I was a kid once and I was a kid who was exposed to furries. adults tried very hard to prey on me many times. im lucky im okay. there are a lot of people who are not okay because of predators in the furry fandom

what you are doing right now is not in your child's best interest. love your kid and love your hobby, but keep your kid away from strangers both offline and online because there are so, so, so many people who can hurt them and many of them are people you would never expect

the pictures you commissioned? even if they are cute to you, there are people who jack off to that. don't let people jack off to your kid. that's horrible
 
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I'm Sorry Ms Pac Man said:
Junius and others are now attacking KKC’s credibility and agenda. I have a strong feeling if this gets much bigger they’re gonna delete everything and vanish.

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CIA Nigger said:
I think the moral of the story is that if you're going to make a long ass post exposing somebody or something, don't faildox or post complete bullshit you didn't even fact check. KindKabsCorner made a huge mistake by not digging beyond the surface level, instead just going off people who might have had beastforum accounts without taking into account other factors such as impersonators and in doing so missed a lot of the juicy bits like Douglas Spink's money, Athus's dolphin sex video (which there's a whole lot of background here, part of which involved staff who were part of a zoophilia ring molesting animals at a theme park aquarium that made SeaWorld's animal scandals look like they're nothing, I literally found this in two minutes in Google), and more. This led to them getting distracted and calling out a whole lot of people who likely had little to do with any zoophilia.

Also Kamo's IIRC not even with Bad Dragon anymore or at least he's no longer their director and they're not on their official state filing document either.

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And so he cycle of callout culture continues.
 
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I'm Sorry Ms Pac Man said:
Junius and others are now attacking KKC’s credibility and agenda. I have a strong feeling if this gets much bigger they’re gonna delete everything and vanish.

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Nothing gets a furry off more than being able to yell "gotcha" at someone else, disregarding if it gets 5 likes or 500. I found KKC before they even attempted to attack Kab herself, or at least I didn't see any of it, and slowly transitioned into like.. Their main twitter? Half their tweets were not satire or call-outs, they just straight up enjoyed the fame.

I can see them going "oh, this is what gets the most likes, so I'll keep doing it", going from 50% humor and 50% large-scale callouts, to just. Callouts.
 
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KhordKitty said:
It comes back to the fact that I don't think babyfur is a fetish. If it was a fetish, Wikifur would say it was. I believe on the babyfur article it clearly says that "ageplay" is specifically a fetish.

"Hell, why did you get caught trying to take your baby to a babyfur panel a year ago?"

I STILL think it'd be hilarious to see the faces of those babyfurs if I brought my kids in. That'd be so funny. But I scrapped the idea when people started posting about "CALL CPS!". It's really exceptional. It's just a testament to the fact that a LOT of furries really have no sense of humor. If you don't think me telling a babyfur "Hey, look! I have a REAL babyfur! Poser!" isn't funny then I don't know what to tell you. I guess I have my sense of humor is different from yours.

There is literally absolutely nothing wrong with taking my kids to a babyfur room party. You just assume they're all pedophiles because of bias. I've been saying this for years: Babyfurs are to furries, as furries are to non-furries. They're needlessly mocked and accused of being fetishists which only intensifies their tribalism. I'm not trying to white-knight babyfurs. I'm just telling the truth.
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I never thought I'd say this but holy shit you should never have been allowed to have children.

1. Wikifur isn't an excuse for ignorance. Cubs are primarily sexual fetish, no one young enough to actually be a cub is going to be drawing, roleplaying or commissioning cub content. It's grown adults fetishizing young children and anyone with half a brain can see that. The vast majority of cub content is pornography, you are literally whiteknighting them by using your ignorance as an excuse. It's not tribalism, it's pedophilia.

2. No you really shouldn't take your children to a babyfur room party. In fact you shouldn't be taking your children to con room parties anyway, there are abundant with alcohol and are no where near safe for children. Jfc it shouldn't take anons on the internet to tell you the basic of being a responsible parents who puts their children's safety and well-being above their own agenda. It's nothing to do with a sense of humor, you're just fucking dumb.

Your responses here just make me feel genuinely sad for your kids. They deserve better than this and no child should be exposed to this content.
 
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camopattern said:
I never thought I'd say this but holy shit you should never have been allowed to have children.

1. Wikifur isn't an excuse for ignorance. Cubs are primarily sexual fetish, no one young enough to actually be a cub is going to be drawing, roleplaying or commissioning cub content. It's grown adults fetishizing young children and anyone with half a brain can see that. The vast majority of cub content is pornography, you are literally whiteknighting them by using your ignorance as an excuse. It's not tribalism, it's pedophilia.
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Even with that comment, the Wikifur page on it almost exclusively talks about porn and its legality. He has no excuse to play ignorance.

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KhordKitty said:
"Cub furs are historically used to groom minors. You're either an ignorant fuck or you're in on it"

Then feel free to educate me so I don't need to be an ignorant fuck. Are all babyfurs pedophiles trying to lure children in?

"I genuinely hope to be proven wrong but you're a really shitty parent for essentially brainwashing your kids into the fandom "

What am I brainwashing upon my children? I'd like to know.

"Edit: Actually you can't even SAY you're ignorant to this since you just outed yourself for associating with known pedophiles. God, you're fucking dumb."

I met Spark Dalmatian in 2015 when I was looking for fursuiters to join in a skit of mine. I wasn't aware he was a pedophile until I saw a message on facebook in 2017/2018 that he was in jail. I met Danruk in 2015 because he was the head of the ANE 2015 masquerade. Absolutely no one knew he was a pedophile until March 2018 when he had sex with a child and got 15+ years in the slammer. I don't associate with pedophiles if I know they're pedophiles. ALTHOUGH I am friends with Growly and, although I haven't seen any proof that he's a pedophile, my wife said she might of seen proof of that. I'd like to know because I know you probably know about this then I do.

"Care to verify on social media seeing your so willing to offer up info?"

Yes! I just made a post on twitter verifying this is me. https://twitter.com/KhordKitty/status/1103823684794380288

"Where did you get this copypasta? It’s fucking great!"

I wrote it yesterday.

"Twitter feed full of rants about how degenerate the fandom is yet you're getting babyfur commissions of your kids "

It comes back to the fact that I don't think babyfur is a fetish. If it was a fetish, Wikifur would say it was. I believe on the babyfur article it clearly says that "ageplay" is specifically a fetish.

"Hell, why did you get caught trying to take your baby to a babyfur panel a year ago?"

I STILL think it'd be hilarious to see the faces of those babyfurs if I brought my kids in. That'd be so funny. But I scrapped the idea when people started posting about "CALL CPS!". It's really exceptional. It's just a testament to the fact that a LOT of furries really have no sense of humor. If you don't think me telling a babyfur "Hey, look! I have a REAL babyfur! Poser!" isn't funny then I don't know what to tell you. I guess I have my sense of humor is different from yours.

There is literally absolutely nothing wrong with taking my kids to a babyfur room party. You just assume they're all pedophiles because of bias. I've been saying this for years: Babyfurs are to furries, as furries are to non-furries. They're needlessly mocked and accused of being fetishists which only intensifies their tribalism. I'm not trying to white-knight babyfurs. I'm just telling the truth.
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Yeah I'd totally take my kids into an enviornment know for drug and alcohol use and also let them hang with grown ass adults who voluntarily shit in diapers too because thats so funny! And not at all fucked up. Any small child would just adore a panel about how to put on an adult onesie and find cub art or whatever goes on in an Adult Baby Diaper Lover panel. Im sure they'd love to see them there too;)

Either stick to actual family-friendly panels and events or leave your kids at home. Furry Cons are know for drinking, sex, drugs and a lot of "not very kiddy" things. Your two young children do not know this so being aware of this shit yourself (like how diaper furs are associated with pedophiles) is literally your responsibility as their father. You choose to become a parent and you seriously need to start acting like one before your kids get hurt or mentally fucked up.
 
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"Are you high or just plain stupid?"

Get the point. All of you are arguing that it's an undeniable fact that all baby furs are pedophiles. If I deny this I'll be called a pedophile white knight and if I acknowledge it I'll be universally chastised for intentionally putting my son in horrible danger.

It's a lose lose situation. I just wanna be on the record in saying I don't demonize a whole group of people as dangerous if they're not dangerous. Simple as that. I have no problem with the babyfur/cub community because I'm friends with some of them. I don't think they're a dangerous group, I find furries, in general, are much safer people to be around then any other group. I feel perfectly safe being in the same location as furries my children.

You seriously need to compare the safety of furry cons and Catholic churches. Which one has a record of being a mecha of child rape? It's no contest. Furry cons win in safety, babyfurs are more trustworthy as babysitters then Priests. My wife tried to convince me to leave my son with a Priest in a DMV while I was doing my driving test. Because I'm a good parent, I did everything in my power to get my son out of that dangerous situation. My entire life is composed of me trying to getting my children out of danger. I'm proud of it.

You don't know me. Feel free to assume I'm a drugged up stupid pedophile. I'm well respected enough that I don't care of I get demonized in this troll forum. My goal here is to set the record straight, answer your questions, and be transparent with opinions so there are no assumptions about them.

"To the outside world it's considered a fetish too, why do you think the media covers it as one or satirizes it as one?"

Again, furries view babyfurs in the exact same way as non-furries view furries. Furries in general think all babyfurs are fetishist pedophiles just like the public in general think all furries are fetishist zoophiles. If I agree that babyfurs are a fetish that I'd have to also say that furry is just a fetish, and nothing more. They're both mindless stereotypes.

"Hell you're even hanging around someone who's been caught soliciting sex from minors multiple times, you should know better than to do that"

I got a buncha new information via PM so I'm grateful it was sent to me. My wife and I had never seen the logs. I had no idea Growly did such things.

"Shouldn't you be taking care of your kids instead of trying to prove to an autism forum that you're totally not a waste of oxygen?"

I learned gossip is toxic and trust is good. So I wanna say the truth. Also my kids are doing great.

"the pictures you commissioned? even if they are cute to you, there are people who jack off to that. don't let people jack off to your kid. that's horrible"

I hear your opinions. But tons of parents take their kids to furry cons because they're safe, they're fun, and again.. THEY'RE SAFE.

"You choose to become a parent and you seriously need to start acting like one before your kids get hurt or mentally fucked up"

I'm here to answer questions and give my views. No offense, I couldn't give two shits about the opinions of any of you people. I've lead a VERY successful life by not taking the advice of other people when I don't NEED IT.

We're not the first furry parents to take kids to furry cons. Spotticus took his kids to cons and they turned out just fine. My kids are going to turn out great. They're happy, healthy, and I care about them and their safety more then anything in the world.

I'm not taking my kids to any adult panel and I don't plan to. Hopefully that's clear now.
 
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KhordKitty said:
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There's this wall of text that comes up before you hit that reply button, it's called the forum guidelines and they're there to stop you making a fool of yourself but you just love throwing fuel onto a fire. I was actually laughing by the end of it. Your line about you being well respected is definitely what got me the giggles.

However it's not funny that you come here and preach about how happy and healthy your children are, how you'd do anything to protect them when your actions contradict that. You still think it's acceptable to commission cub artwork of them (you think that artist isn't fapping when they draw it?) and state a clear intent to take them to cub hotel room parties at cons "as a joke". Then you white knight babyfurs and even admit you're friends with them. Yes it's a lose lose situation for you because ffs man kiwifarms users shouldn't be the people telling you that you're putting your kid on the front line of pedophiles. You're setting records straight alright but it's not in your favor, you're digging a deep grave. I'll give you a hint, a lot of animal control regulars are furries themselves.

Why don't you step back from the monitor and read what you're writing. Get off your high horse and look at how you're presenting yourself to everyone else. "Feel free to assume I'm a drugged up pedophile, because I'm certainly representing myself as one".

Nice edit to backtrack on your statement of taking your kid to the panel btw ;)
 
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camopattern said:
Nice edit to backtrack on your statement of taking your kid to the panel btw ;)
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The edit was because I used "there" grammatically incorrectly.

And no, I actually think about that I say before I say it. I regret nothing of what I wrote here. Taking my son to a babyfur room party would be HILARIOUS. And I'm sorry you don't see the humor in that. I don't plan to take him to anything like that. But I understand why you think it's inappropriate. If you erroneously assume all babyfurs are pedophiles just like the entire public erroneously assumes all furries are zoophiles, fetishists and plushophiles then you have a perfectly logical reason to assume I'm a shitty parent for even TALKING about the idea on twitter.

And I read the forum guidelines. I've broken no guidelines. I'm here to provide information and to fill in the gaps of information and assumptions left by gossip. This whole thread is fueled by gossip and I'll be damned if I let any gossip happen about me without at LEAST a fair factcheck.

It should come to no ones surprise that I have a sick sense of humor. If you think I'm a bad parent and a danger to my children then you obviously don't know me. I think that's a good thing. Almost all of the interactions I've had here thus far have amounted to cyber-bullying and a general never-ending stream of personal insults. Any burnt bridges resulting from this post is a blessing. KiwiFarms is obviously the last place I want to be if I want to be surrounded with positive influences.

It's rather tedious to check this forum everyday so I might come back in a week or two. Thanks for the questions.
 
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Dylan said:
Lmao, you dumbasses, we have legit pedophile in the thread being white knight for furry child porn and you are trying to argue with him instead of calling him a pedo.
Report that fucker to the authorities, he most certainly pimps out his kid to other perverts.
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It's 5 am on the East Coast & he lives in CA. It's not a life-threatening emergency as far as any of us can tell so calling it into a 24 hour emergency line isn't going to be a good idea. Unless you wanna take your chances yourself, we gotta wait a minute, Chief.
 
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