Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Jaimas]

The man gives absolutely no fucks:
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Hasn't Soylent repeatedly been shown to contain lead and cadmium?

...Oh, shit, no wonder Shane's been acting the way he has. He has the brain damage.

 

[Stoneheart]

They're going to have to settle for a piss-poor booze someday

Its not super expensive stuff, that bottle of Veuve Clicquot yellow label is between 30 and 40€ a full bottle. but im not even sure if its not a halfbottle.
I would guess she got it as a gift from some company. Its the stuff rapper buy...

If you wanna show off, buy Don Perignon...

 

[RodgerDodger]

Also, you should know she makes other weebs look like super normies. She gets into Anime shipping and "Social Justice" wars in the Fujoshi fandom regularly. That's why she's nuked everything. She gets threatened with death and doxxing regularly.
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She spends time getting translations done from the studio who make the show so she can argue with other Fujoshits of the exact nature of the relationship of the guys in the anime.
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mappa - 荔枝蒸肉-脑洞侠

annaanonly.lofter.com

Also she pretty much thinks most people are homophobic, or anti-lgbt. Like even if she gets a whiff of it. Like "I don't really like that gay character". Boom, you're a gay killing nazi. You'd better get on your hand and knees and suck some gay cock right there to make up for it.

Dear lord, it’s like we found Rylung’s soulmate or long lost sister... or both!

 

[Big Rob Boss]

Forget the shoe on a cuttingboard mystery, what kind of drinks is this man drinking?

It's the resulting semen he gets from his self-masturbatory tweets about his moral superiority, it's not regular semen though, it's distilled in excessive amounts of soy he keeps in his body.

 

[quickthrowaway]

The Japan times published an article about the convention fallout following the Vic Mignogna debacle. They have quotes from Lynzee Loveridge of ANN and other con running staff. In particular, A. Jinnie McManus, who is pictured in the article and is founder of a private Facebook group for con runners, and Lance Heiskell who is a former marketing director for Funimation and a con exhibitor for over a decade according to the article. I can't imagine lots of what's said in the article is kosher especially with the impending legal action and what seems to be a direct connection of conventions and American anime companies.

The archive.today link captures the site weird, so there is also a web archive.org link for it.

Spoiler: Copy of article text

#MeToo allegations roil U.S. anime conventions - by Roland Kelts

Over the past two months, the #MeToo movement breached the American anime convention industry. Most feel it was inevitable. Many say it’s about time.

The first salvo was fired in mid-January in the form of a Twitter thread accusing veteran American voice actor Vic Mignogna (“Dragon Ball Z,” “Fullmetal Alchemist”) of homophobia, anti-Semitic behavior and unwanted sexual contact.

Soon the charges from fans, some of whom claim they were underage at the time of the alleged transgressions, were joined by those from con staff members, professional cosplayers, fellow voice actors and an ex-fiancee.

Less than a week after the first tweets dropped, Mignogna released a public statement rejecting accusations of bigotry, proclaiming the innocence of his intentions and apologizing to anyone who felt violated by his “show (of) gratitude or support.”

Some Twitter users, including those in the actor’s fan club, aggressively defended Mignogna. The hashtags proliferated: #istandwithvic (for) and #kickvic (against), and now, #vickkicksback (anti-against).

The controversy expanded on Jan. 30, when an article appeared on the Anime News Network (ANN) site, one of the largest English-language industry portals. Its headline, “Far From Perfect,” was borrowed from Mignogna’s personal apologia to his fan club members.

Lynzee Loveridge, ANN’s managing interest editor, compiled firsthand accounts, mostly anonymous, from a handful of fans and one cosplayer, all of whom felt mistreated, insulted or physically victimized by Mignogna’s actions. ANN also published photos of the actor embracing young autograph seekers. The article consolidated and legitimized the social media posts.

“I don’t get a lot of great sleep working on these types of stories,” Loveridge tells me, recounting the hours of research and the ethical quandaries behind her reporting. “You have to almost disconnect emotionally to make sure you’re seeing everything from all sides.”

Within two weeks, two U.S.-based production companies, Rooster Teeth Productions and Funimation Productions, permanently severed ties with Mignogna. Ten of his 14 appearances at future cons were canceled or had their invitations withdrawn. He hired a law firm, he tweeted, “to salvage my reputation and my 20-year career in this industry.”

Hundreds of thousands attend the annual anime conventions that take place across the United States nearly every weekend. Some cons are over two decades old. This is not the first instance of impropriety.

In recent years, unlicensed photographers taking pictures of scantily clad cosplayers without their permission prompted the now-standard convention hall warning signs: “Cosplay is not consent.” Last spring, one of the organizers of Houston’s Anime Matsuri publicly apologized for his unwanted sexual advances after former attendees launched a campaign to boycott the con. In October, an anime-con regular, who hosted game shows at several cons, announced his retirement after an alcoholic outburst (at his home) resulted in his arrest for beating a cat.

But American voice actors, especially those who play roles in popular titles, have become quasi-celebrities at U.S. cons: pillars of attraction for badge-buying attendees who wait hours in line to pay for an autograph and a selfie with a star.

It wasn’t always the case. In the late 1990s and into the mid-2000s, American voice actors ranked lower on the industry totem. One seasoned U.S. performer, speaking off the record, recalls when they were not even granted “guest of honor” status and consigned to giving autographs in hallways outside the main convention center.

A. Jinnie McManus, founder of We Run Anime Cons, a private Facebook group for con runners worldwide, believes that the Mignogna storm marks a day of reckoning for U.S. convention organizers, who may be guilty of looking the other way to maximize attendance and profits.

Previously, she says, rumors of bad behavior “were just unsubstantiated enough that conventions could look past the ugliness,” or else they were “excused by the adoration — and frankly, badge sales — shown to the difficult guests by the fans. Those days appear to be over.”

Still, selecting and running background checks on every guest may be too much to ask of convention staff, many of whom work on a partially volunteer basis with neither the time nor resources to conduct thorough screenings.

“I think most con runners put the con first,” says Jim Vowles, former director of guests and industry at Otakon, one of the largest East Coast conventions. “They work part time, so the vetting isn’t really going to be as professional as it should be at big companies with teams dedicated to that.”

As with other allegations of misconduct in the #MeToo era, the rhetoric spewing from the Mignogna affair grew ugly fast. In the hothouse horror show of social media, accusations presume guilt without proven evidence or legal proceedings, and defenses turn vitriolic, personal and infantile.

Former Funimation Productions marketing director Lance Heiskell, a con exhibitor for over a decade, says, “The reactions from the pro-Vic people harassing the people who came forward with their story has been severe. This backlash is cruel.”

After two months, the online ire from both sides shows no sign of abating. Conventions pride themselves on being safe spaces for fans, notes McManus. But now, according to ANN CEO and publisher Christopher Macdonald, “every convention is scrambling to figure out how to deal with this in the future.”

Viewed from Japan, the land that makes anime, the relentless attacks, counterattacks, provocations and conspiracy theories on Twitter and YouTube begin to look like Shakespeare’s villainous Iago run amok, spreading rumors and stirring rage in pursuit of mutual destruction.

Japan hosts its own fan events, of course, one of which, the biannual Comic Market, is the largest of its kind in the world. Numerous Japanese voice actors are also revered as superstars. Yet similar tempests haven’t hit home thus far.

That’s because domestic behavioral norms and expectations still hold firm despite globalization, the internet, and transcultural exchange, says Tokyo-based Michelle Le, an interpreter and frequent North American con-goer. “I wouldn’t be surprised if something is going on behind the scenes (in Japan),” she adds, “but it’s not likely we will hear about it.”

 

[mindlessobserver]

Allison has completely deleted the @HanLeia twitter account. Looks like someone else has grabbed the name.

 

[RodgerDodger]

The Japan times published an article about the convention fallout following the Vic Mignogna debacle. They have quotes from Lynzee Loveridge of ANN and other con running staff. In particular, A. Jinnie McManus, who is pictured in the article and is founder of a private Facebook group for con runners, and Lance Heiskell who is a former marketing director for Funimation and a con exhibitor for over a decade according to the article. I can't imagine lots of what's said in the article is kosher especially with the impending legal action and what seems to be a direct connection of conventions and American anime companies.

The archive.today link captures the site weird, so there is also a web archive.org link for it.

Isn’t The Japan Times written exclusively by and for whitebread western weebs without a clue regarding anything to do with Japan?

 

[Curious Addie]

BTW, @emspex's post got me thinking about Shane. It seems like he would be pretty easy to dox.

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I'm gonna take a wild guess, based on the stream that...

Spoiler: This is where he crashes?

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Spoiler: And not this?

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Does anybody remember when his divorce was? Is it possible his ex-wife got what we see in the second pic?

I'd say the floorplan checks out on the Old Denton Road apartment, it's the mirror of his webcam.

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[Captain Manning]

The Japan times published an article about the convention fallout following the Vic Mignogna debacle. They have quotes from Lynzee Loveridge of ANN and other con running staff. In particular, A. Jinnie McManus, who is pictured in the article and is founder of a private Facebook group for con runners, and Lance Heiskell who is a former marketing director for Funimation and a con exhibitor for over a decade according to the article. I can't imagine lots of what's said in the article is kosher especially with the impending legal action and what seems to be a direct connection of conventions and American anime companies.

The archive.today link captures the site weird, so there is also a web archive.org link for it.

He's former. Probably doesn't matter if he's no longer associated with the company.

I found Jim Vowles (a name I recognize) comment pretty interesting about vetting guests. We already know they have a problem with background checks (especially in the Furry community). Using internet innuendo doesn't seem like good substitute.

And then there's the parting lament about how Japan doesn't give a fuck, and some unwarranted optimism they they see the light "behind the scenes." Don't tell me SJWs don't know the truth. They're just like Sarkeesian.

 

[Clockwork Dragon]

Allison has completely deleted the @HanLeia twitter account. Looks like someone else has grabbed the name.

And here I thought she was all sassy and unworried because those dirty, gross Vic apologists wouldn't be able to touch her! !!!111

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

Out of curiosity, does someone have the tweets of Tara Sands talking about Vic being kicked out of studios? Have those been archived and sent to Nick?

 

[AnOminous]

And here I thought she was all sassy and unworried because those dirty, gross Vic apologists wouldn't be able to touch her! !!!111

She's a U.S. citizen and either has property or money here or will when her parents die. Then it can be collected on. Also if you really want to go out of your way you can domesticate a civil judgment in Japan. It's just usually more involved and expensive than it's worth.

It's not like Japan is some barbaric wasteland beyond the rule of law. Japanese and U.S. companies do a lot of business together and a lot of litigation against each other, both here and there, and collect judgments against each other as well.

 

[SiccDicc]

The Japan times published an article about the convention fallout following the Vic Mignogna debacle. They have quotes from Lynzee Loveridge of ANN and other con running staff. In particular, A. Jinnie McManus, who is pictured in the article and is founder of a private Facebook group for con runners, and Lance Heiskell who is a former marketing director for Funimation and a con exhibitor for over a decade according to the article. I can't imagine lots of what's said in the article is kosher especially with the impending legal action and what seems to be a direct connection of conventions and American anime companies.

The archive.today link captures the site weird, so there is also a web archive.org link for it.

This is the same institution trying to shame the JSDF for using Strike Witches as recruitment posters and citing a Japanese Gender Scholar Professor who believes Disney's version of Grimm's Fairy Tales is full of rape.

Their opinion can be discarded.

 

[dfp]

Out of curiosity, does someone have the tweets of Tara Sands talking about Vic being kicked out of studios? Have those been archived and sent to Nick?

You can do it, here's what I have:

http://archive.is/hGnVu --Fireable but not criminal Inappropriate but not illegal
http://archive.is/NSptm -- Firsthand stories
http://archive.is/mTGYX -- Heard underage, but not firsthand stories

http://archive.is/bI8VG - He acted inappropriately to someone considered a fan
http://archive.is/z05fZ - He acted inappropriately to someone considered a fan 2

http://archive.is/7yuSU - Many companies stopped working with him
http://archive.is/pTcdp - Says his colleagues approached him about it
http://archive.fo/7BTUE - 5 women she says she knows

 

[quickthrowaway]

He's former. Probably doesn't matter if he's no longer associated with the company.

Yes, but I'm sure that in that decade of doing cons he also worked with Funimation at the same time at some point. The main point I took away from it is that there's a clear incestous nature already between American anime companies and anime conventions. So much so that if it ever gets to discovery, that they will find connections between the two that could aid in the conspiracy argument.

This is the same institution trying to shame the JSDF for using Strike Witches as recruitment posters and citing a Japanese Gender Scholar Professor who believes Disney's version of Grimm's Fairy Tales is full of rape.

Their opinion can be discarded.

I'm sure it's just a rag. But if it gets hit during the crossfire, I doubt anyone would complain.

 

[Captain Manning]

Allison has completely deleted the @HanLeia twitter account. Looks like someone else has grabbed the name.

Funny how that happened right after dox were dropped here.

Isn’t The Japan Times written exclusively by and for whitebread western weebs without a clue regarding anything to do with Japan?

It's actually a newspaper with a pretty impressive history dating back to the 19th century, and was the first English language newspaper in Japan. However, it has been criticized for being increasingly "anti-Japanese," and apparently their parent company has been forcing some changes in editorial stance as a result.

I don't think this article means that Japan gives a shit about social justice. I think this was able to get through because Japan doesn't give a shit about it. The crackdown they have been facing mainly concerns articles about Japan's conduct in WW2 (comfort women, etc).

 

[Urbanmech]

Allison has completely deleted the @HanLeia twitter account. Looks like someone else has grabbed the name.

The one tweet on it just says ".saved" so maybe she deleted and took the name to wait all this out?

 

[mindlessobserver]

She's a U.S. citizen and either has property or money here or will when her parents die. Then it can be collected on. Also if you really want to go out of your way you can domesticate a civil judgment in Japan. It's just usually more involved and expensive than it's worth.

It's not like Japan is some barbaric wasteland beyond the rule of law. Japanese and U.S. companies do a lot of business together and a lot of litigation against each other, both here and there, and collect judgments against each other as well.

Depending on her Visa she may also be required to keep a legal residence in America. Which would probably be her parents house. It's not like she immigrated there.

 

[Captain Manning]

The one tweet on it just says ".saved" so maybe she deleted and took the name to wait all this out?

I was thinking about replying "Kiwifarms happened," but then it occurred to me this could be a honey pot trap and she still has control of the account.

Deleting and reestablishing the account is a pretty effective means of DFE. That said, she's also clearly spooked.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I was thinking about replying "Kiwifarms happened," but then it occurred to me this could be a honey pot trap and she still has control of the account.

Deleting and reestablishing the account is a pretty effective means of DFE. That said, she's also clearly spooked.

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I would be. She kicked off a massive shit fest and then tried to hide behind the shield of Anonymity. And for the record she didnt make just one tweet. She kept it up, and clearly enjoyed causing the drama. Until it got a little too spicey. And now we got her Dox. She nearly got away too. I don't have an archive for the sculpture tweet because literally in the time it took me to screenshot and save it she nuked her twitter.

At the very least she is target for a summons to deposition. And she is deleting evidence that she has to know by now will be involved in a lawsuit. That is a very bad move on her part.