🐷 Ethan Oliver Ralph / TheRalphRetort / Rad Roberts / Jcaesar187 / Rage Pig / "Killstream" / "Tequila Sunrise" - 5'1'' fat alcoholic, owner of a gunt, convicted felon and revenge pornographer, property of the ugly failed tranny pornstar Lucas Roberts. Has quadruple titties.

[Siegfried]

Yet Andy has somehow managed to get a cult following where his twitter followers believe he can do no wrong and the world is out to get him.

Let's be real. Some people are egging him on ala Chris Chan or any other moron with a massive ego

 

[Lin Marin]

You guys are going way too deep with the CP stream stuff. Everything we know puts the trouble in Andy's lap even in the worst case scenario, not Ralph.

• Any "potential FBI investigation" that they may have ruined is pure speculation, there is no known indication that something like that was happening.
• If there was an investigation into those shady exchanges, or there is going to be one, they haven't ruined it. DFE doesn't work against the feds, Instagram keeps logs and likely the images themselves.
• If someone downloaded a "folder", it seems to be Andy and his anonymous UK associate.
• Ralph has said "Let me see", but this was to answer Andy's question on whether or not the images were appropriate for Youtube. It's completely reasonable to assume that Ralph did no expect to see CP or anything resembling it as it would be completely obvious that would not fly on Youtube.
• The images in question were supposedly hosted on Instagram and apparently used to "advertise" more sexual (and illegal) images that would be distributed privately. Andy lives on exaggerations for attention. In all likelihood, the pictures probably "weren't that bad", in relative terms, or at least not illegal.
• Andy getting jailed for producing CP on a technicality is not righteous, it would be a miscarriage of justice.
• There is no reason to believe these two are pedophiles and thus the moral outrage around it is completely unjustified. We hate pedophiles because they get off on CP and encourage the production of it, not just because they have witnessed the pictures. It is possible Andy, Ralph or both have fucked up in the eyes of the law, but they haven't done anything actually evil.
• The issue on intent goes both ways. There are cases of people getting jailed for non-explicit videos, just as there are cases of people getting away with possession of full-on CP.

 

[Imnotretardedimjustme]

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Seemes like a totally stable and sane 30 year old male to me!

 

[Siegfried]

You guys are going way too deep with the CP stream stuff. Everything we know puts the trouble in Andy's lap even in the worst case scenario, not Ralph.

• Any "potential FBI investigation" that they may have ruined is pure speculation, there is no known indication that something like that was happening.
• If there was an investigation into those shady exchanges, or there is going to be one, they haven't ruined it. DFE doesn't work against the feds, Instagram keeps logs and likely the images themselves.
• If someone downloaded a "folder", it seems to be Andy and his anonymous UK associate.
• Ralph has said "Let me see", but this was to answer Andy's question on whether or not the images were appropriate for Youtube. It's completely reasonable to assume that Ralph did no expect to see CP or anything resembling it as it would be completely obvious that would not fly on Youtube.
• The images in question were supposedly hosted on Instagram and apparently used to "advertise" more sexual (and illegal) images that would be distributed privately. Andy lives on exaggerations for attention. In all likelihood, the pictures probably "weren't that bad", in relative terms, or at least not illegal.
• Andy getting jailed for producing CP on a technicality is not righteous, it would be a miscarriage of justice.
• There is no reason to believe these two are pedophiles and thus the moral outrage around it is completely unjustified. We hate pedophiles because they get off on CP and encourage the production of it, not just because they have witnessed the pictures. It is possible Andy, Ralph or both have fucked up in the eyes of the law, but they haven't done anything actually evil.
• The issue on intent goes both ways. There are cases of people getting jailed for non-explicit videos, just as there are cases of people getting away with possession of full-on CP.

They went to a discord with known pedophiles. Downloaded a 36 gig zip file on there. It was obviously the new devil may cry game . No way the secret folder was naked kids. That's insane!

 

[Unog]

• Any "potential FBI investigation" that they may have ruined is pure speculation, there is no known indication that something like that was happening.
• If there was an investigation into those shady exchanges, or there is going to be one, they haven't ruined it. DFE doesn't work against the feds, Instagram keeps logs and likely the images themselves.

Pedos often do their thing either behind a proxy or while using TOR. Even if they didn't DFE works if they can't get a hard-drive containing anything.

• If someone downloaded a "folder", it seems to be Andy and his anonymous UK associate.
• Ralph has said "Let me see", but this was to answer Andy's question on whether or not the images were appropriate for Youtube. It's completely reasonable to assume that Ralph did no expect to see CP or anything resembling it as it would be completely obvious that would not fly on Youtube.

Dude the topic of the stream was CP. Andy explicitly knew what he would be going over in the stream and so did Ralph.

• The images in question were supposedly hosted on Instagram and apparently used to "advertise" more sexual (and illegal) images that would be distributed privately. Andy lives on exaggerations for attention. In all likelihood, the pictures probably "weren't that bad", in relative terms, or at least not illegal.

I keep having to quote this summary explaining why it doesn't matter if they "weren't that bad":

"It's not child porn because the underage girls only showed their asses."

Said by Ralph on Cog's stream.

Austin Jones tried that as a defense not too long ago. "Oh, they were twerking, that's not child porn."

He's now facing upwards of 20 years for possession and soliciting child porn, and those twerking videos were used against him as well. Genitals don't need to be shown, what matters is the intention of the depictions, you overused prison fucktoy. Get an attorney @theralph because you are going to fucking need it.

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• Andy getting jailed for producing CP on a technicality is not righteous, it would be a miscarriage of justice.
• There is no reason to believe these two are pedophiles and thus the moral outrage around it is completely unjustified. We hate pedophiles because they get off on CP and encourage the production of it, not just because they have witnessed the pictures. It is possible Andy, Ralph or both have fucked up in the eyes of the law, but they haven't done anything actually evil.

For the millionth time literally nobody has said otherwise in this thread, Andy's thread, or the Andy/Ralph/Twoon thread.

• The issue on intent goes both ways. There are cases of people getting jailed for non-explicit videos, just as there are cases of people getting away with possession of full-on CP.

Thus rendering your "not that bad" section irrelevant. Also this is another "everyone in this thread is already aware/totally agrees" point.

Will people please stop fucking moralfagging as if though we're a bunch of retards. Or, at the very least, bring up points that haven't already been talked about ad nauseam.

 

[Lin Marin]

Thus rendering your "not that bad" section irrelevant. Also this is another "everyone in this thread is already aware/totally agrees" point.

Are you more exceptional than Andy himself? I don't even know how to respond to your post because I've already addressed what you've said in the original post you're quoting, you're just too stupid to take in the whole post.

People clearly don't all agree with it, otherwise there wouldn't be widespread fake moral outrage all over the place.

 

[Imnotretardedimjustme]

Are you more exceptional than Andy himself? I don't even know how to respond to your post because I've already addressed what you've said in the original post you're quoting, you're just too stupid to take in the whole post.

People clearly don't all agree with it, otherwise there wouldn't be widespread fake moral outrage all over the place.

Hot tip from my fourth grade teacher : Always justify the points you make, maybe you should point to the widespread fake moral outrage then? Like in the thread using the qoute function.

 

[Smarty Pants]

Seemes like a totally stable and sane 30 year old male to me!

Nothing those two have "done" on the internet makes me dislike them more than the way they act in public.

 

[Unog]

Are you more exceptional than Andy himself? I don't even know how to respond to your post because I've already addressed what you've said in the original post you're quoting, you're just too stupid to take in the whole post.

Buddy if your point is "well people go to jail for less and sometimes don't for more" (which I'm pretty sure it was in that section since I can fucking read) it renders the "well it wasn't that bad" point moot/unnecessary.

Or would you like to explain how it doesn't instead of insulting my intellect?

People clearly don't all agree with it, otherwise there wouldn't be widespread fake moral outrage all over the place.

It's not a moral outrage, if people are angry it's solely because of how jaw-droppingly retarded Andy and Ralph were to do it, in this thread at least. If you can't tell the difference, well I'm sorry but you just might be an autist.

 

[Imnotretardedimjustme]

Nothing those two have "done" on the internet makes me dislike them more than the way they act in public.

What do you mean? Don´t you think its normal, in your early thirtes getting blackout drunk before noon and sleeping in a resturant. Thats not something white trash would do at all.

 

[Siegfried]

Are you more exceptional than Andy himself? I don't even know how to respond to your post because I've already addressed what you've said in the original post you're quoting, you're just too stupid to take in the whole post.

People clearly don't all agree with it, otherwise there wouldn't be widespread fake moral outrage all over the place.

Normally I'd agree but if kraut or sargon did this shit you'd probably be cheering Ralph and andy or whoever the current Tonka is . Quit being a blind npc sjw or whatever the buzzword is and get back to laughing at mongoloids.

What do you mean? Don´t you think its normal, in your early thirtes getting blackout drunk before noon and sleeping in a resturant. Thats not something white trash would do at all.

For a crackhead in Florida he's not even throwing crocodiles into Ralph's bed. Just boring shit like putting his balls on a
laptop.
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[Smarty Pants]

What do you mean? Don´t you think its normal, in your early thirtes getting blackout drunk before noon and sleeping in a resturant. Thats not something white trash would do at all.

That and getting kicked out of bars for being a loud obnoxious cunt, yelling in the street, swearing like a sailor in Walmart around normal customers. Inconsiderate faggots.

 

[Niggernerd]

can't we all just get along and laugh at these two speds for ruining their "careers"

 

[Unog]

can't we all just get along and laugh at these two speds for ruining their "careers"

Apparently we can't due to a moral outrage over a moral outrage that doesn't exist.

 

[Lin Marin]

Hot tip from my fourth grade teacher : Always justify the points you make, maybe you should point to the widespread fake moral outrage then? Like in the thread using the qoute function.

Yes, let me just sift through 200 pages to prove a point that is completely obvious already.

Buddy if your point is "well people go to jail for less and sometimes don't for more" (which I'm pretty sure it was in that section since I can fucking read) it renders the "well it wasn't that bad" point moot/unnecessary.

Or would you like to explain how it doesn't instead of insulting my intellect?

That's not the "point", that is what happens. You literally posted a blurb about how INTENT matters, then act like their intentions have no weight at all and what they're doing is illegal for a fact. The "point" is that there is no reason to believe their intention (Andy's) for downloading what is presumably risque, but not explicit, imagery of minors was to personally consume or propagate what we can then call "CP". You are looking at the explanation and ignoring every aspect of it that doesn't lead to "oh yeah ralph is going to jail for sure". The reason the law considers the perpetrators' intentions is so they can't get around it with weird loopholes like barely covering genitalia.

And again, even if Andy literally downloaded full on CP and watches it daily to this day, that is Andy's problem. I don't see any proof whatsoever that Ralph had access to anything but a short screenshare that was announced by Andy. Take this shit to the Andy thread if you feel the need to talk about his potential crimes.

Normally I'd agree but if kraut or sargon did this shit you'd probably be cheering Ralph and andy or whoever the current Tonka is . Quit being a blind npc sjw or whatever the buzzword is and get back to laughing at mongoloids.

The majority of my posts on KF are about shitting on Ralph, I'm not saying this because I'm taking sides. I didn't rag on about Sargon's "it depends on the child" quote because it was very clear what he was actually saying. I just think this obsession with calling everyone a pedophile on the Internet is fucking retarded. It's not funny, and neither are fake moralfaggotry and A-Logging.

 

[Imnotretardedimjustme]

Yes, let me just sift through 200 pages to prove a point that is completely obvious already.

So not even an example? Yikes you wouldn´t have gotten very far in Annas 4th grade english class.

 

[Unog]

That's not the "point", that is what happens. You literally posted a blurb about how INTENT matters, then act like their intentions have no weight at all and what they're doing is illegal for a fact. The "point" is that there is no reason to believe their intention (Andy's) for downloading what is presumably risque, but not explicit, imagery of minors was to personally consume or propagate what we can then call "CP". You are looking at the explanation and ignoring every aspect of it that doesn't lead to "oh yeah ralph is going to jail for sure". The reason the law considers the perpetrators' intentions is so they can't get around it with weird loopholes like barely covering genitalia.

The intent "blurb" that I posted, if you cared to read it, is about the intent behind the making of the material not the intent of the individual who has it. Though I'm sure that actual pedophiles get busted for having what would otherwise be non-sexual imagery for the intent behind having it as well.

For the record as I've stated previously I don't think it's going to happen nor would I want it to. You seem to be trying to attribute some kind of a-log behavior to me that's just not there.

Thanks for being civil about it and actually explaining your point this time, btw.

And again, even if Andy literally downloaded full on CP and watches it daily to this day, that is Andy's problem. I don't see any proof whatsoever that Ralph had access to anything but a short screenshare that was announced by Andy. Take this shit to the Andy thread if you feel the need to talk about his potential crimes.

I'm not "taking this shit" anywhere because it does involve Ralph. I'm not going to go over this again since it's been covered already multiple times across the past 15-20 pages alone.

Also the only people who seem to be moralfagging are people like yourself who keep trying to make discussion of this into some sort of grand moral crusade that just isn't happening. As to why I can only guess.

 

[Lin Marin]

The intent "blurb" that I posted, if you cared to read it, is about the intent behind the making of the material not the intent of the individual who has it.

That is a completely baseless interpretation of the quote you've posted. It is not even alluded to in the quote and would be completely ridiculous in practice. Obviously both the production and possession of questionable but not undoubtedly illegal content is being judged based on the specific context.

Also the only people who seem to be moralfagging are people like yourself who keep trying to make discussion of this into some sort of grand moral crusade that just isn't happening. As to why I can only guess.

The moralfagging started the moment it came out, with things a la "I can't believe these scumbags have disrupted an FBI investigation".

 

[Smarty Pants]

Any "potential FBI investigation" that they may have ruined is pure speculation, there is no known indication that something like that was happening.

Yeah of course it's pure speculation, the feds don't advertise honeypots. The reason why it's very likely that it is in fact a sting operation is that it's right out in the open on one of the biggest social media apps.

If there was an investigation into those shady exchanges, or there is going to be one, they haven't ruined it. DFE doesn't work against the feds, Instagram keeps logs and likely the images themselves.

Ralph brought that up multiple times, and that's not the point. They gave pedos a heads-up to wipe their hard drives, which would matter to an investigation.

If someone downloaded a "folder", it seems to be Andy and his anonymous UK associate.

I don't even think Andy downloaded the CP folder, however I'm still a bit dubious about the whole thing with the British girl. Isn't she supposed to be an underage girl who used to sell her nudes or something?

Ralph has said "Let me see", but this was to answer Andy's question on whether or not the images were appropriate for Youtube. It's completely reasonable to assume that Ralph did no expect to see CP or anything resembling it as it would be completely obvious that would not fly on Youtube.

Dude they had images of a nude 15 year old girl that had emojis barely covering her nipples, and that's according to Ralph and Andy. Not to mention he was talking about underage girls showing their ass and shit on Cog's stream.

Andy getting jailed for producing CP on a technicality is not righteous, it would be a miscarriage of justice.

I don't think anyone is going to jail. The only way that would've happened was if those idiots managed to piss of the feds by ruining an op, but we would've seen them getting v& by now.

There is no reason to believe these two are pedophiles and thus the moral outrage around it is completely unjustified. We hate pedophiles because they get off on CP and encourage the production of it, not just because they have witnessed the pictures. It is possible Andy, Ralph or both have fucked up in the eyes of the law, but they haven't done anything actually evil.

I honestly don't know who disagrees with you here. The criticism that I've always seen in Ralph's, Andy's and the thrashfire threads have always been about them being morons who did potentially illegal shit just so they could virtue signal and get some heat off them. Hanging out with women who are known to have manufactured porn while underage while exposing pedos is a bad look by itself, but then you have all the retarded things they were saying in the stream that SoCal Chris immediately realized could be taken out of context and had the video yanked off YouTube.

You're right, intent is key. Their intent was to score brownie points with "the boards" and their other critics by making a spectacle of child exploitation. They hit a new low and deserved to be shit on until the end of time.

EDIT: I don't mean to pile on, I see that you're getting other long replies.

 

[Unog]

That is a completely baseless interpretation of the quote you've posted. It is not even alluded to in the quote and would be completely ridiculous in practice. Obviously both the production and possession of questionable but not undoubtedly illegal content is being judged based on the specific context.

@Spectre_06 could speak to whether or not my interpretation is baseless seeing as he's the guy I quoted. Aside from that, we're not really disagreeing here it seems other than you keep repeating that as if though it's possible a pic of a 14 year-old girl with emojis covering her tits is somehow not going to be viewed as CP.

The moralfagging started the moment it came out, with things a la "I can't believe these scumbags have disrupted an FBI investigation".

I can see your point there I suppose, but what I can't see is how you don't realize you're no different.

There's nothing wrong with talking about it, and as far as the "moralfagging" about the ethics of possibly interrupting an FBI honeypot and alerting whatever actual pedos were involved regardless in an attempt to both build good will and distract from recent fuckups, well if you want to call being annoyed, irritated, or even angry (though I haven't seen anybody acting as if though they committed a greivous sin itt, which again you've yet to provide a single example) about that "moralfagging" then that's your prerogative.

Also I'd like to reiterate, seeing as I missed it in my latest reply, but literally nobody has called them pedos in this thread, the Andy thread, or the Andy/Ralph/Twoon thread.