"Jim" / James Augustine née James Patrick O'Shaughnessy / Mister Metokur / Jim81Jim / Internet Aristocrat - His autistic videos and the gay beta "sweetie squad" who mindlessly suck his cock.

Is James Augustine FUCKING DEAD?

  • Yes! Another Vtumour simp kicks the bucket.

    Votes: 203 36.9%
  • NO. Antis are just writing fan fiction 😭😭😭😭😭

    Votes: 347 63.1%

  • Total voters
    550
I fully agree that it's gay to ruin something like Tooter with shit memes but it's also gay to tell Jim that he's not allowed to laugh at certain shit anymore because you think you own it. He's entitled to tweet anything he wants as much as anyone else and it can be argued that Josh himself is going to start causing the same problem as his streams become more popular.
One of his fans literally called Tooter, who is a complete hobo and life failure btw, to talk about fucking real estate prices of all things for like, 30 fucking minutes, and in the process almost ruined one of the very, very best Tooter streams of all time..

These people have no sense of humor at all, and it's clear that they sort of outsourced all their thinking and humor to Jim, you can easily see it in his Twitter mentions, where people ask him what he thinks on some seriously mundane and everyday shit (what do you think of DMC V? What is your favorite character? Did you see X do Y to Z?), and you get the sense that whatever he says in response is gonna be exactly how they feel about all of those things.

I also think that the autism of his fanbase took away a lot of freedom when it comes to making content, mainly because his entire (tangible) internet existence is about mocking or calling out internet personalities for how they dealt with their fandoms or how they made/managed their content, and now he's ended up with a lot of self-imposed red lines that he himself can't cross without looking bad to them by his own measures:
  1. If he says what he really thinks about them, then he's Baked Alaska turning on his audience.
  2. If he changes his content and tries to shift gears, he could run into an Angry Joe situation.
  3. If he keeps laying low with zero content, he becomes Spoony.
  4. ..etc
There's a fuckton of ways he can lose, and zero ways to truly "win", so his only recourse is damage prevention: He makes sporadic streams, plays games all day, and if anyone asks about content, he just ducks the question and lets his fans project an answer for him.
 
One of his fans literally called Tooter, who is a complete hobo and life failure btw, to talk about fucking real estate prices of all things for like, 30 fucking minutes, and in the process almost ruined one of the very, very best Tooter streams of all time..

These people have no sense of humor at all, and it's clear that they sort of outsourced all their thinking and humor to Jim, you can easily see it in his Twitter mentions, where people ask him what he thinks on some seriously mundane and everyday shit (what do you think of DMC V? What is your favorite character? Did you see X do Y to Z?), and you get the sense that whatever he says in response is gonna be exactly how they feel about all of those things.
This is not unique to Jim's audience at all, his audience just became big enough that that portion of it is significant enough to notice. I'm not sure you realize how many people across the board behave like this. Try watching a popular Youtuber like videogamedunkey's review on a new vidya release and then look at comments on that game around the Internet. An astounding number of people will just regurgitate word for word what he said in his video without even having their own frame of reference. This happens in just about every group and to a certain degree pretty much anyone is susceptible to that behavior at one point or another.

There's a fuckton of ways he can lose, and zero ways to truly "win", so his only recourse is damage prevention: He makes sporadic streams, plays games all day, and if anyone asks about content, he just ducks the question and lets his fans project an answer for him.
I think you're reading too much into it. He's just been doing whatever he wants while keeping a friendly relationship with his viewers. At the end of the day it's really not rocket science. As long as you don't lash out at your audience and don't chase shekels no matter the cost, you'll do fine. You don't really have to put on an act to be nice to people that come to watch you because they like you, at least if you're not a weird self-obsessed type like a lot of e-celebs end up being.

What usually leads to an e-celeb's downfall is that they start thinking they're inherently better than their audience, and Jim has been very adamant about "just being some guy on the Internet" and doing whatever he wants, even if it results in lower numbers and fewer shekels.
 
This is not unique to Jim's audience at all, his audience just became big enough that that portion of it is significant enough to notice. I'm not sure you realize how many people across the board behave like this. Try watching a popular Youtuber like videogamedunkey's review on a new vidya release and then look at comments on that game around the Internet. An astounding number of people will just regurgitate word for word what he said in his video without even having their own frame of reference. This happens in just about every group and to a certain degree pretty much anyone is susceptible to that behavior at one point or another.
1st of all, thanks for actually discussing things. It's weird when even mere speculation on what's next for Jim brings out people who act like you just insulted their dead mother or something.

2nd, that's a fair point, people look for tastemakers in every walk of life, that's why we have thousands of sites for fashion, video game, film, tech..etc. People want to be told what to like, it makes life easier.

Where this logic ship hits an iceberg though is that not many of those creators have made their bones in the same way Jim did. There's a huge difference between being a tastemaker on things, and a tastemaker on people. The 1st means you have some set of standards on what you'll use, consume..etc, the latter means that you're (consciously or unconsciously) establishing standards on your own behavior.

Another thing is, I think that Jim's fanbase is just fundamentally different, you'd never see people sending pictures of what game they're playing today to dunkey, or trying to egg him on to start feuds, there's this weird father/son-like component to their interactions with him that has to be highlighted, it's like they're trying to get his approval or something.

I don't think he consciously created it, nor that he can control it beyond a certain extent, but it's certainly there, and as such is definitely worth mentioning and discussing.

I think you're reading too much into it. He's just been doing whatever he wants while keeping a friendly relationship with his viewers. At the end of the day it's really not rocket science. As long as you don't lash out at your audience and don't chase shekels no matter the cost, you'll do fine. You don't really have to put on an act to be nice to people that come to watch you because they like you, at least if you're not a weird self-obsessed type like a lot of e-celebs end up being.

What usually leads to an e-celeb's downfall is that they start thinking they're inherently better than their audience, and Jim has been very adamant about "just being some guy on the Internet" and doing whatever he wants, even if it results in lower numbers and fewer shekels.
This is a very confused standpoint imo, are you arguing that Jim is a good eceleb or not a celebrity at all?

Because I'd argue for (mostly yes) on the 1st, and (no) on the latter.

Jim himself is probably an ok person for an eceleb (helping out Merryweatherey against his blackmailers is an example of this, that thread was what brought me out of lurking btw), and while he's not doing a lot of good lately, he's not exactly doing much bad either. I personally think that most of his problems right now is because he set too exacting a standard of what's expected of an eceleb.

But I don't think it's a good idea for him to pretend he's not an eceleb, because he now is one, whether he asked for it or not:
  1. Only ecelebs get paid for their time on the internet (whether that's deserved or not is up to the people paying the money).
  2. Only ecelebs have internet fanbases that follow them everywhere (autistic internet fanbases are still internet fanbases).
TL;DR: Jim is an eceleb, and not a regular guy on the internet, no matter how much he wants it to be so, but he's not necessarily a bad eceleb. His fanbase should kill themselves tho.
 
It seems like these channels are actually confirmed to be animal abuse channels.
Jim better not pull an Andy.

EDIT: looks like it's been covered a few months ago:
 
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there's this weird father/son-like component to their interactions with him that has to be highlighted, it's like they're trying to get his approval or something.

Why does this sound like Jordan Peterson?

"Alright chat, we're gonna go through some superberries real quick here...

From SweetieSquadHolocoasterDivision: "I washed my penis daddy Jim tell me I'm your favorite lobster boy"
 
Where the hell does he find this stuff? No way he just types random stuff into the search bar hoping for results.

It was the subject of some very active threads on /x/ (the paranormal board) on 4chan, on their second already and they've been spreading the word out to other boards like /an/ (the animal board).
 
there's this weird father/son-like component to their interactions with him that has to be highlighted, it's like they're trying to get his approval or something.

This is something that can be observed in communities that revolve around a singular figurehead and seems inevitable. Just look at any Twitch streamer with a solid following. Howard Stern called them the "Notice Me, Daddy" people, who were usually wannabe disk jockeys who were trying to do wacky shit to get Howard's attention, like it would launch them into a similar career trajectory or something. They want to be part of the bit, and it makes them come off as despicably needy.
 
Why does this sound like Jordan Peterson?

"Alright chat, we're gonna go through some superberries real quick here...

From SweetieSquadHolocoasterDivision: "I washed my penis daddy Jim tell me I'm your favorite lobster boy"

Jim is the chaos side of Jordan Peterson. The Jungian archetypical trickster god who represents the shadow within which lies what you don't want to face. Roughly speaking...
 
Jim is the chaos side of Jordan Peterson. The Jungian archetypical trickster god who represents the shadow within which lies what you don't want to face. Roughly speaking...
In a manner of speaking, doctor SlayerFan213, you've changed my life. In your approximation, what is the best way we can slay our drayguns?
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Where the hell does he find this stuff? No way he just types random stuff into the search bar hoping for results.
I remember reading chan threads about it a few months ago. While I'm not surprised that YouTube hasn't done anything about it, what does surprise me is that Jim is talking about it now.
 
This is a very confused standpoint imo, are you arguing that Jim is a good eceleb or not a celebrity at all?
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I personally think that most of his problems right now is because he set too exacting a standard of what's expected of an eceleb.
I don't really understand what the point of the distinction is. If an e-celeb is just an Internet famous person, then yeah, he's an e-celeb. There's nothing to that though. When people call out e-celebs it's because they act like e-celebs, i.e. insist they deserve respect, think they're better than everyone else, think what they're doing is important work, etc.

I don't see exactly what problem you perceive there to be. He does streams, is nice to people that are nice to him and that's it. I feel like you expect him to disavow his audience or something and are convinced he would do so if it wasn't for what you perceive as a trap he set for himself.

Where this logic ship hits an iceberg though is that not many of those creators have made their bones in the same way Jim did. There's a huge difference between being a tastemaker on things, and a tastemaker on people. The 1st means you have some set of standards on what you'll use, consume..etc, the latter means that you're (consciously or unconsciously) establishing standards on your own behavior.
People don't follow Internet creators because of their opinions on things, for the most part - Internet fame is personality driven. Videogamedunkey didn't become popular by being a "tastemaker", he was just funny. People just like talking to people they watch and some get influenced by them more than others. Asking a guy about his opinion on DMC5 is really not that crazy. Name any Internet famous person and they probably get asked about their opinion on a variety of subjects, even if it's not the focus of what they do on the Internet.
 
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