Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

[Hecate]

https://twitter.com/DaRealSamBB/status/1106432318665703425
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Well there's a hot take from Senator Fraser Anning. Just in case you thought only the left side of the culture war would heat up over this.

holy fucking shit, is this senator for fucking real? he really couldn't wait a couple of days for these optics to die (lol) down?
i honestly expect some islamic retard to quote this letter in the future before shooting up a school or christian church
politicians really have no fucking idea what the fuck is going on, regardless of what country they're in

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

If we're going hardcore cultural relativism/nihilism, in that line of reasoning why isn't it right for him to kill these Muslims? And if you haven't noticed, neither the Breivik mass shooting nor the Dylan Roof murders do anything to slow down the spread of far right ideology.

It's all counting on the Muslims to fall to weakness themselves and start cheering on the people who resisted them. Personally, I find this guy rather clever in how he aimed this at causing maximum offense and impact, so who knows, maybe one day he'll be spoken in the same breath we speak of the Comanche Indians who raped and murdered a fuckton of white people and Mexicans to protect their land (which they grabbed by raping and murdering a bunch of other Indians).

It's all rather interesting, why does the media seem to be determined to spark a race war?

Because it benefits the people up top, the billionaires and global elite. Destroying the West through internal conflict is part of the plan to make everyone their serfs. Contrary to this guys ideology, the Muslims don't win either, because they still end up serfs. Both the immigrants and anti-immigrant groups, and the violent motherfuckers in them like ISIS and this guy, are part of their scheme.

 

[Heather Mason]

Or imagine if the armed sperg couldn't buy a carload of assault rifles in the first place.

I imagine the sperg would have used his carload of assault gasoline instead and then pulled out his assault knife/fire axe/hatchet/machete and slashed 20 people in the ensuing, burning chaos

 

[SyntheticAesthetic]

Or imagine if the armed sperg couldn't buy a carload of assault rifles in the first place.

"Guns no good, Orange man bad" bruh imagine if the mosque was armed. We'd see way less casualties.

 

[repentance]

Thanks. The profile states he's from Victoria, AU though.

Peter Lalor - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Unog]

I get that. At the same time though, if you're stupid enough to talk about your plans for killing people, you shouldn't even be using that website in the first place. There should be some limit to this madness. Not to the extent where everything needs censoring (which in and of itself is a r.etarded way of thinking), but we don't need people announcing and streaming their kill sprees on it.

I'm not sure if you mean that there should be some limit to speech or to the ability for people to livestream whatever atrocities they want to commit.

For the first, free speech is binary. The moment that you start saying what is and isn't allowed you're going to have it devolve into people trying to say what counts as free speech or not to further their own ideological aims like we have nowadays. Mind you I'm talking purely about freedom of speech (ideas spoken or written) here, not freedom of expression (art, movies, the like) which are distinctly different concepts even if a whole herd of retards consistently and irritatingly conflate the two.

If the latter, I disagree. For the same reason the video's available on this very site. Being at least able to know exactly what happened so that those in the public who can stomach to watch it can point out any inconsistencies in the reporting done by MSM. Also, as someone upthread said, journalists shouldn't be considered a special class of citizen. If they have access to it there is no reason that the general public they're so quick to manipulate shouldn't either.

 

[Feline Darkmage]

you seem like the type to say "he attacked followers of a religion of peace".

Okay two-post account that joined less than half an hour ago, that definitely isn't suspicious.

Islam is a complex religion and some of its adherents have decided it should be a death cult that slaughters other muslims for not following their doctrines, as well as all other infidels.

This guy is just that same thing but less brown and he has autism instead of fucking goats.

 

[ReplicantWiggum]

The Daily Stormer was nuked offline, and now they feel free to do that to anyone.

Alex Jones was nuked offline, and now they feel free to do that to anyone.

If your front line collapses you become the new front line. Let the 1488 clique shit it up on 8ch and 4chan. They have the right to do so. There is no such thing as hate speech.

This is stupid you understand those boards are at stake right now? The worlds eyes are on them? How in any way will praising the shooter help them in the court of public opinion. Just step out of your ‘’muh free speech” bubble for a second and realize although freedom of speech is a right, the left has weaponized the court of public opinion. Most the 1488 shit happens on those anon boards because exactly that your anonymous!

It’s almost like the 1488 clique are a bunch of cowards when they have to present their opinion in public with a face to the name. But hey that’s my opinion I’m sure it’s not popular with you /pol/acks

 

[HG 400]

I imagine the sperg would have used his carload of assault gasoline instead and then pulled out his assault knife/fire axe/hatchet/machete and slashed 20 people in the ensuing, burning chaos

He would have lightly injured like two people and gotten stomped to death. Crisis averted.

"Guns no good, Orange man bad" bruh imagine if the mosque was armed. We'd see way less casualties.

Imagine if the shooter wasn't. We'd see none.

 

[DidYouJustSayThat]

You know, all this could be avoided, if the moslems just self-deported themselves back to their shithole countries. Surely, this solution would benefit everyone?

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Or imagine if the armed sperg couldn't buy a carload of assault rifles in the first place.

How many of those weapons were legally acquired in NZ I wonder.

It's all counting on the Muslims to fall to weakness themselves and start cheering on the people who resisted them. Personally, I find this guy rather clever in how he aimed this at causing maximum offense and impact, so who knows, maybe one day he'll be spoken in the same breath we speak of the Comanche Indians who raped and murdered a fuckton of white people and Mexicans to protect their land (which they grabbed by raping and murdering a bunch of other Indians).


Because it benefits the people up top, the billionaires and global elite. Destroying the West through internal conflict is part of the plan to make everyone their serfs. Contrary to this guys ideology, the Muslims don't win either, because they still end up serfs. Both the immigrants and anti-immigrant groups, and the violent motherfuckers in them like ISIS and this guy, are part of their scheme.

Or they just want ratings and shocking stories are more interesting.

 

[Unog]

He would have lightly injured like two people and gotten stomped to death. Crisis averted.



Imagine if the shooter wasn't. We'd see none.

I know you're trolling but it's worth pointing out NZ is one of those countries with strict gun legislation.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Imagine if no guns existed and if instead of murder fascists just gave people blowjobs.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

I'm not sure if you mean that there should be some limit to speech or to the ability for people to livestream whatever atrocities they want to commit.

For the first, free speech is binary. The moment that you start saying what is and isn't allowed you're going to have it devolve into people trying to say what counts as free speech or not to further their own ideological aims like we have nowadays. Mind you I'm talking purely about freedom of speech (ideas spoken or written) here, not freedom of expression (art, movies, the like) which are distinctly different concepts even if a whole herd of exceptional individuals consistently and irritatingly conflate the two.

If the latter, I disagree. For the same reason the video's available on this very site. Being at least able to know exactly what happened so that those in the public who can stomach to watch it can point out any inconsistencies in the reporting done by MSM. Also, as someone upthread said, journalists shouldn't be considered a special class of citizen. If they have access to it there is no reason that the general public they're so quick to manipulate shouldn't either.

Yeah, looking back on it, I was jumping the gun quite a bit. A large part of that is more "Why would you do that shit in the first place, and why did no one stop him?" than anything else.

Still it's just wrong on a moral level even if it does help give insight to the insanity of the individual in question. And I'm not trying to advocate censorship on the internet, or free speech in general- That shit is just as wrong if you ask me. It's more or less common sense making me wonder why stupid and insane people are allowed to talk about this sort of thing and not have people question them about it.

 

[Animewasamistake]

wonder why stupid and insane people are allowed to talk about this sort of thing and not have people question them about it.

https://kiwifarms.st

#freespeech4lifenegro

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

wonder why stupid and insane people are allowed to talk about this sort of thing and not have people question them about it.

https://kiwifarms.st

#freespeech4lifenegro

I meant more on 8Chan where this all originated, but you have a point.

Problem is, this thread's turned into one 50+ page argument.

 

[Unog]

It's more or less common sense making me wonder why stupid and insane people are allowed to talk about this sort of thing and not have people question them about it.

Well for one thing as far as I'm aware nobody knew this was going to happen until ten minutes before the shooting, and I can't really blame people for thinking that he was just some edgelord looking for attention.

For another, the government can't literally be everywhere looking at what everyone's doing. Honestly I'm rather glad for that, even if shit like this ends up happening due to that.

Also it's worth reiterating what a user upthread already said: this man was not insane. He had logic, reasoning, and a clear mind with what he did. You can call the guy misguided, you can call him heartless, you can call him evil, and he's certainly a murderer, but he wasn't/isn't insane.

 

[byuu]

Maybe he had Turkish hate because of Gallipoli?

 

[Tomboy Respecter]

He would have lightly injured like two people and gotten stomped to death. Crisis averted.



Imagine if the shooter wasn't. We'd see none.

"Imagine if criminals didn't break the law. Then they wouldn't be criminals. " Yeah, it's not like the people on the outskirts of society will find some way to break the law and harm people if we magically outlaw guns. Black markets totally don't exist and sites like thehomegunsmith.com don't exist either. The only way to defend yourself from a criminal with ill intent is to match the force he's using (or surpassing it even). That's why firearms are called the great equalizer: No one's impervious to a bullet, regardless of all our accidental features.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

wonder why stupid and insane people are allowed to talk about this sort of thing and not have people question them about it.

https://kiwifarms.st

#freespeech4lifenegro

more like freespeech4death