Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%

  • Total voters
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If someone has a problem with brown people influencing their culture but is okay with yellow people doing just because they have cute cartoon girls, then they're being a goofy fag. That's all I'm saying, dude.
All of the people in this thread with anime avatars are shutin retards who jerk it to cartoons of little girls/possibly real little girls and seem to be on the pacifist train.

The shooter's entire point is that these people shouldn't even be in New Zealand or any other western country, and are engaging in colonizing these countries and bloodsucking the native/host population to death. It's a "democracy" we're told, but no one consented to it. How does that "just happen" that cities like London, Auckland, Paris etc. go from being populated by the native/founding population to being filled with these foreigners? It doesn't. Something like that doesn't "just happen." Him targeting random ragheads who may or may not be child rapists, terrorists etc. does not help of course, since they're not the ones who let these people in to begin with.
 
They care because first of all, mass shootings like this aren't a thing in NZ - the last deadly mass shooting there was in the nineties. Those Muslim on Muslim mosque attacks you're talking about don't usually happen in Western countries, they happen in countries ravaged by war. Remember the Paris attacks in 2015? There was also a terrorist attack in Beirut, but it didn't receive as much attention/outrage. It's not fucking normal in New Zealand for 49 people to be gunned down.

Mostly Sunnis blowing up Shites.
 
Cricket players don't do jack shit, they play some shitty version of baseball. Look up "cricket fights" and they don't do anything, since the worst cricket fights are what the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, etc. are doing every couple weeks in the regular season (which is toned down from back in the day in the 80s/90s when if you went to Fenway Park or Yankee Stadium in the wrong gear you would get your ass beat). Cricket is insanely polite.
Don't kill my insane conspiracies fantasies you heartless monster.
Still it's an insanely popular sport in these parts of the world, passion drives people crazy. And it was the Bengali team, Bangladesh is basically India, I'm sure this can be tied to the recent troubles in Kashmir.
THERE'S SOMETHING FISHY IN THERE FOLKS I CAN FEEL IT
 
Either a psychopath or trained, he didn't seem to panic or get overly excited.
He was breathing very hard and fumbled with his mags multiple times. No signs of anything remotely resembling empathy or remorse, but I'd say he was in an agitated state, whether from pure adrenaline, joy, fear, or what I can't say.
 
Mostly Sunnis blowing up Shites.

I am aware of that, but Sunnis and Shias aren't duking it out in New Zealand. And ignoring religion - things like this don't happen in NZ. It's not normal for dozens of people to be shot to death like it is here in the US.
 
This is just sickening and heartbreaking. Nearly 50 people were just slaughtered while they were trying to pray in their house of worship. Now, I'm not a fan of Islam. Anyone who's read my posts about the subject knows that. But I have no problem with Muslims who respect the laws of the countries they immigrated to/were born in. They have the right to their religion as long as it's not hurting anyone. There is no evidence that these Muslims were extremists or were doing anything wrong. And even if they were extremists (which again, there is no evidence that they were), then murder still isn't the solution.

This man is a right-wing terrorist and if you feel any sympathy for him and his motivations you're a horrible person. There is never, ever an excuse for the slaughter of innocents.

Then call me a terrible person who really doesn't give a fuck what you think of me.

There's no excusing what this guy did, but acting as if though there's no sympathy to be had for the guy's grievances and saying you're just as bad as he is if you have any is part of the fucking problem.

The incompatibility of Islam with the west has been a proven issue for long enough that it's problems are more than crystal clear to everybody who cares to look at them. Countless rapes, acid attacks, murders, etc. But if you talk about any of this in your social group, you're a racist. Your politicians ignore you in favor of the feel-good mainstream opinion. If you try to talk about it semi-anonymously online you're either met at best with dismissal and pilpul, at worst outright censorship, in either case with outright declarations again that there's something wrong with you for pointing out the reality of the situation as it has been for well over a decade at this point.

Then fucking absolute retards want to wonder why people like this guy are driven to extremism. When the only place you're allowed to honestly confront the issue is on fucking 8/pol/ it's no god damn wonder. The absolute deterioration in the ability of people to speak honestly about such problems in the public discourse is only fueling this and further censorship is going to go exactly as the hopped-up asshole this thread is about wants it to: physical confrontations and violence.

This guy, while I don't believe in white nationalism or really ethnostatism (I'm a civnat), has some - I'll repeat because a lot of people on this site can't fucking read - some legitimate grievances. This kumbaya we-all-need-to-come-together bullshit that's been spewed in vain, and all of the aforementioned reactions to people trying to air their grievances about this problem, are doing nothing but continuing to ignore actual aggrieved individuals and thus fomenting their concern into anger, and that anger into hatred, all in the name of trying to keep alive the dream that "we're all just people and we can all get along if we really, really try". It's not working and the results of such an attitude are dozens of dead muslims in the middle of prayer and a censorship-hungry elite that are furiously masturbating at the ammunition they just received.

TL;DR This cold-blooded piece of shit, whilst being a cold-blooded piece of shit who deserves what he's going to get, did have some points. You're part of the problem if you insist that he didn't, or that any sympathies towards his ill will somehow make you an evil person.


This isn't specifically aimed at you but all the people in the thread who keep making similar posts. 49 people were just murdered in cold blood in a very blatant act of hate and y'all are more worried about what SJWs might do. PC culture is annoying as fuck, but the last time I checked SJWs haven't murdered 4 dozen defenseless people while they were praying. Call me a libtard but I think right-wing extremism is the bigger issue here.

PC culture is what fucking lead to this. If you think right-wing extremism is the bigger issue here you're a fucking idiot who's putting the cart before the horse.

The bigger issue here is that every single person's lives who use the internet are about to be made worse exactly as this fuckstick intended, and here we have dipshits railing on about how the results of this societal problem finally coming to a head are somehow also it's cause.

The problems that we're having in the west right now that both led to this and are most certainly going to lead to more of the same have a solution if people could stop acting as if though there's nothing to see here other than a deranged gunman who's motives should only be looked at in the most shallow of ways possible unless you're just like him, and talk about the issues at hand.

Step one imo should be to stop the fucking censorship and stigma surrounding the issue, but I'm just some dude on the internet.
 
I just don't believe that terrorism and murder is the correct response to terrorism and murder. This guy didn't go after ISIS. He didn't go after Boko Haram. He went after the Muslims in his community who did absolutely nothing to him or anyone else. He's a monster and you're encouraging people like him.
I'm not sympathetic when communities that tacitly condone this shit (and oftentimes blatantly support it) get a taste of their own medicine. But by all means, don't let context get in the way of a good moralfagging.

If christians were still burning witches and launching religious crusades, I'd point and laugh when they got gunned-down, too.

Now don't let me stop you presuming my motivations. What else am I thinking?

EDIT: Hey @Cosmos easier to rate than respond, I know. Add me on reddit, bro.
 
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They care because first of all, mass shootings like this aren't a thing in NZ - the last deadly mass shooting there was in the nineties. Those Muslim on Muslim mosque attacks you're talking about don't usually happen in Western countries, they happen in countries ravaged by war. It's not fucking normal in New Zealand for 49 people to be gunned down. It's not normal for a woman to be executed in the middle of the street.

I'm sorry but this is modern times, get with the program.
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Just watched and it was gruesome. That guy that tried to rush the shooter was soooo close.

That was clean compared to the Bataclan, and we didn't even have a Go-Pro livestream of that.

Even worse? Beslan.

Don't forget that "peacefully praying" is a misnomer when referring to haji.

Sure, they're all calm & out-of-sight while devoting themselves to an ideology of theft, rape, and murder.

Until they're not.
 
I am aware of that, but Sunnis and Shias aren't duking it out in New Zealand. And ignoring religion - things like this don't happen in NZ. It's not normal for dozens of people to be shot to death like it is here in the US.
It's only really normal in certain parts of the US. For those other shocking mass shootings in the US outside the designated murder zones people cope with it by the US being so big that it basically comes down to the same psychology as a disaster in a different country.
 
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The shooter's entire point is that these people shouldn't even be in New Zealand or any other western country, and are engaging in colonizing these countries and bloodsucking the native/host population to death.
Then why did he target Muslims but not the Chinese, which is the largest groups of immigrants in New Zealand who bought up a ton of property there? It doesn't get more colonizing than that.
 
It's not murder when we remove kebab. It's pest control.

Then call me a terrible person who really doesn't give a fuck what you think of me.

There's no excusing what this guy did, but acting as if though there's no sympathy to be had for the guy's grievances and saying you're just as bad as he is if you have any is part of the fucking problem.

The incompatibility of Islam with the west has been a proven issue for long enough that it's problems are more than crystal clear to everybody who cares to look at them. Countless rapes, acid attacks, murders, etc. But if you talk about any of this in your social group, you're a racist. Your politicians ignore you in favor of the feel-good mainstream opinion. If you try to talk about it semi-anonymously online you're either met at best with dismissal and pilpul, at worst outright censorship, in either case with outright declarations again that there's something wrong with you for pointing out the reality of the situation as it has been for well over a decade at this point.

The overwhelming majority of Muslims in New Zealand are Ahmadi Muslims.

Do you know what that means?

It means they're basically liberal Christians.
 
I don't know what you categorize as right-wing extremism but massacring a bunch of Musilms to start a race war is like textbook right-wing extremism. His goal was literally to create a White Nationalist uprising in America.

1) I could categorize it as insanity or sheer contempt for humanity by wanting to see it burn. How about that?

2) What does killing muslims in New Zealand have to do with white Nationalists in America (and just take that as rhetorical please)?

3) Everything so far as I have read and seen in other examples demonstrates that people like this are on a whole other spectrum to the point where labels don't seem to matter. And besides that, at least in the West anyway, when we see a white person do such a thing in the supposed name of something connected to "right-wing" extremism, guess who are the first people who denounce these nutjobs? The right wing. Guess who still gets fucked over even though they had nothing to do with such? The right wing, so sorry that I get pissy about people labeling someone else as something that I could probably be labeled as for doing something completely ridiculous.

4) Last I checked, South Africans want to exterminate the Boer. Does that make them 'right-wing' even though most of the people in favor with that mentality in the South African government are considered Left wing?
 
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Any points he had were invalided when he decided to shoot up innocents, something tells me he would've easily shoot up a school and Islam is just the scapegoat. His 'manifesto' is an incoherent mess from alt-right.com, copy n paste job. Seriously though - surely that becomes obvious when he starts driving like a maniac and starts firing randomly at cars and passerby's?
 
Then why did he target Muslims but not the Chinese, which is the largest groups of immigrants in New Zealand who bought up a ton of property there? It doesn't get more colonizing than that.
I'll never get what you Commonwealth fags have against the chinese. Buying property at market value isn't theft and I've never known a Chinese person that wasn't hard working, intelligent, and polite.
 
I am aware of that, but Sunnis and Shias aren't duking it out in New Zealand. And ignoring religion - things like this don't happen in NZ. It's not normal for dozens of people to be shot to death like it is here in the US.
It hasn't been normal in NZ because NZ was nominally a European country until recently. Similarly, in Sweden rape used to be largely an urban myth. Now it's not. It's all part and parcel, old bean.
 
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