Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%

  • Total voters
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I mean, it's not a bad idea. Dissect what a determined shooter will probably do and devise ways to counter him with minimal loss of life. If spree killers are gonna start recording their shootings, might as well use it against them.

Better that than trying to scrub this off the internet pretending it didn't happen. Covering your eyes to this piece of shit's actions will not solve shit, and anyone "inspired" by the video would do it anyway because they are psychopaths. These Texas LEO's sound like they know what could happen and want to do all they can to prevent something like this happening in their state.
 
He is still alive, so maybe we will hear from him about how he feels this went down. Overall, I can't have seen it going any better for him. Seems like he played the media and got what he wanted to me.

He didn't expect to get out alive. Watching that shit live, neither did I. How the fuck police took so long to act? The region he lives in is a know INTELLIGENCE GATHERING site, my speculation would be there are some people on surveillance there, as usual in any muslin neighborhood. Not one one or two special forces guys around?
 
Him and 7:03... How fucking alpha do you have to be to have a chance to escape and take that chance to try to take out the shooter?

Absolute legends, both of em.

Are you sure he was tackling him? He looked like he was trying to slip through...kind of reminds me of that one women who was praised for saving a child by jumping in front of a car to block him, but if you watch the actual footage, it's clear she was running out of that way and just so happened to get most of the impact.

Not that I would blame the poor dude.
 
What's funny about this is that the media along with normies will forget about this in a week.
The American Media and political left will forget it for sure because there's very little political capital to gain from the shooting happening in New Zealand and not somewhere in the states.
 
Look, we absorbed the Wop invasion of the early 20th century, if our exceptional politicians let us we can turn all the spics into proud Americans too. If we do even better, we'll make the niggos into patriots too. Yeah, I know, I'm a civnat cuck.

The difference with the integration of non-white groups like Itallians and the Irish into American mainstream culture is different in key ways, and they boil down to "they were made to assimilate":
  1. They immigrated in a time when travel was less readily available; this forced assimilation because you couldn't just go back to your extended family to get re-indoctrinated. That is, when they came to America, they couldn't just send their kid back to Naples for their first communion. That was a week or two of very expensive travel. Now, you can ship little Fatima back home to egypt to get her clit cut off as a weekend trip, and it won't set you back very much. A lot of immigrant muslim families send their kids back home fairly regularly, ensuring they never really assimilate and keep getting reindoctrinated.
  2. Making Immigrants assimilate didn't get crazed left wing pushback (in fact it got crazed right-wing pushback). It was natural and expected; you're here, be American. Now this a racist and dangerous thought, so immigrants are being encouraged to keep & perpetuate the fucked up cultures they left.
  3. Both groups had a religion (Catholicism) that, while backwards and exclusionary, doesn't requires the death of non-believers, or that views any non-Catholic non-Religious authority as defaultly evil.

Muslims, especially MENA Muslims, are self-segretating into their own areas, creating little expanding pockets trying to recreate the fucked-up cultures they left.

I also want to point out that "Muslim" isn't a race; MENA Christians do a better job of assimilating because, hey, no one is threatening to kill me for going to church. (Well, ok, there are those purple-haired hambeasts, but they can only chase me about 20 feet before they collapse wheezing on the sidewalk). But Bosnian muslims, somehow, manage to be much less fucked up and exclusionary than MENA Muslims, possibly because they've been forced to live alongside christians for so long.
 
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/armed-man-chased-fired-on-new-zealand-mosque-shooter/ar-BBUOQ1x

In a somewhat light spot in this terrible event, let's all give kudos to the man who was worshipping at one of the mosques and escaped, only to come back with his own weapon (either a rifle or a shotgun) and return fire at the shooter. Only seven people were killed at this particular mosque, and there would have been undoubtedly more victims if it weren't for his efforts. The guy's a hero.
If anything that'll be the part that gets memory holed even more than the manifesto and the video. If there had been armed security guards like there are in mosques in the USA for example the death toll would have been far lower.

On the other hand attacking churches is fucked up regardless of who does it or where it's at but judging by how some people felt about this it's likely going to start getting a lot more violent there, especially if there are revenge attacks over this.
 
Are you sure he was tackling him? He looked like he was trying to slip through...kind of reminds me of that one women who was praised for saving a child by jumping in front of a car to block him, but if you watch the actual footage, it's clear she was running out of that way and just so happened to get most of the impact.

Not that I would blame the poor dude.
It does seem like he tried to escape, not exactly the smartest move but you can't blame him.
 
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He is still alive, so maybe we will hear from him about how he feels this went down. Overall, I can't have seen it going any better for him. Seems like he played the media and got what he wanted to me.
That's the thing, even if the msm shows restraint (and somewhat surprisingly at this point headlines are fairly tame for what you would expect), social media will do all the work for him anyway.
 
I registered today as well, but just because you guys were the only ones that I can chat about this incident properly. I'm not carrying any political, trolling or derailing agenda. I am a casual forum lurker, mostly in TL etc.

Other than that, besides the terrorist being a complete jerk, I kinda agree on some highlights he made. I'm not against migrating, or people deciding where to live as long as they met the conditions of a citizenship in their desired countries. But when I was travelling Paris, I felt something was wrong as well, too many Arabs, less whites and whites were so old or irrelevant to each other compared to these communes, who usually stick together, aid each other and so all. But I did not blame any migrant for that, I only thought it was the outcome of imperial past of France, enabling mass migration due to their forced language education in colonies and of course, their lazy solution to fullfill low wage labor with these people.

I still highly believe "good fences make good neighbors" and natural way of mixing cultures, not forced political mesaures. Par example, my country, Turkey, you probably think is out of subject what Europe has been facing for too many years but it suffers the same.

Before Syrian War, we were 85 million populated country that were barely collecting taxes from our eastern part, since as you all know, some parts of the kurdish population (roughly 6 million) is separatists and not into paying taxes that much, now it's +4 million refugees who are registered and roughly 1 million not registered, as the numbers show, Syrian babies born in Turkey is much more than the Syrian babies are born in Syira now, which will hit us in the future badly, considering they will demand language in mother language and force their culture to us as the time goes by.

Turkey has been a nationalistic country, starting from the last era of Ottomans, influenced by the Frenchs that made Young Turks very patriotic and against Ottoman rule, producing Ataturk and then making Turkey a nation state, fueling Kurdish uprising which was always there and so on. We have been struggling with the idea of umbrella nationality, not only because the Turkish oppression on Kurds, but also because of the Kurds being totally from another language tree, another culture and political roots, which is a mixture of maoism and marxism. Now, we will have another soon to be 10 million minority that will reject paying taxes, that will claim mostly the lands Kurds are also claiming, and we'll have another big crisis what Ottomans were facing before being thorn apart. There are already Syrian gangs in some parts of Istanbul, who are constantly clashing with the Kurdish mafia (who is running the drug cartel mostly) and starting to get some heavy public disgust, as one incident Istanbul showed, some Arabs were harassing young girls who wore light dresses, recording them with phones, ended up they're getting fucked up by some Turkish neighborhood collectively.

This dirty deal Erdogan had with Merkel, to absorb all the refugees in Turkey will in the long term, will harm Turkey and therefore the Europe as well. Most people in Europe thinks that Arabs and Turks are culturally similar, therefore its more suitable that the Arabs will migrate to Turkey, but I'm almost 100% sure that I am more close to Greeks, Balkan people or slavic people in terms of culture and daily life than the Arabic. Their language is different, their customs are different, their way of dressing is different, their logic and understanding of law & state is different, and most importantly, the way they live Islam, despite the both cultures are sunni, is crucially different.

As a person who worked with Cypriot Greeks, Syrian Arabs and having a Belarussian girlfriend, I can say with the Greeks we were like friends, having the same taste and opinions about the life and so all, but the Arabs were not even attending to any meetings post-work because there is alcohol there and we were mixed with opposite gender, whom they usually not prefer to talk that much.

Do I care about these things that much? Well, if they're running happy country in their homelands and not causing any global threat or balance issues, I'm happy that they have this different ideas about daily life, there are some people who thinks cows are holy after all, or there are monks who are not having any sex all their lives. I don't mind, it's a damn free world, but if they're migrating in a society and start pushing their life style there, which contradicts the very essence of the public opinions of respective country, it will almost all the times gonna cause big trouble. Turks are patriotic, and they will never be okay with the idea of teaching any other language in the schools, or they will never be okay pay more taxes because we oppressed 100 years ago some people. This culture will never come to the terms of understanding it, because there's a huge hubris heritage and it's stupidly not possible to revert. I firmly believe, we should accept the Turks as they are as we're accepting Cubans as they are and Russians as they are and not run a global agenda for social engineering. That's the main reason I cut my support for globalism and liberalism. They push their design so much and the order of the system they're building, which replaces cheap labor force with foreigns, makes all the white europeans alienated from their society. This is very personal idea but during my whole life, I've obserbed that if the cheap labor is replaced with minorities, the mass population is starting to live in gated communities and leading to a life of loneliness, self centiric tinder swipes and life time, whereas, the actual people who are running the streets, spending time together, mixing with other faces normally (as I plan to marry my Belarussian one as an act of love!) are making more strong public stances about any case they will face, be that War, be that referendum, be that running local business in their zones. That's why I still believe the idea of nation state, or any refugee is going under some state funded education or rehabilitation is still critical. But then there will be basic human right concerns about these reforms and educations, but I think instead of putting them in cages or camps, some meetings arranged by state, where free food and music is served, where language and customs are being taught would be nice, and non attending refugees should be banned entry. I would really enjoy to go out with an arabic family, eat with them, enjoy an event with them where we exchange ideas and we show them how we live. Otherwise they will stick to each other in bulks and even refuse to communicate as they are doing now.
 
So the next time someone complains about me calling this site a Nazi haven can I point to this thread as proof?

This will be a talking point for decades.

No, it'll just be another data point, because there's going to be many more of these kind of incidents in the future. It's not even the highest body count: He's tied with the gay club shooter, the vegas shooter has more, and this isn't anywhere near as large as the Paris attack or the German truck, and we don't really hear about those anymore.
 
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