Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

[Citation Checking Project]

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/armed-man-chased-fired-on-new-zealand-mosque-shooter/ar-BBUOQ1x

In a somewhat light spot in this terrible event, let's all give kudos to the man who was worshipping at one of the mosques and escaped, only to come back with his own weapon (either a rifle or a shotgun) and return fire at the shooter. Only seven people were killed at this particular mosque, and there would have been undoubtedly more victims if it weren't for his efforts. The guy's a hero.

Big if true imho. There seems to be conflicting information regarding what weapon was used by the hero at the second mosque (own gun vs. terrorist's gun, which is not impossible given how he seems to throw his shotgun after entering the first mosque) but there's always conflicting recollections in these cases. PM acknowledged that this happened. Yet she still wants to ban muh ebil gunz

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Why didn't you become an hero you embarassing mememeister-wannabe simpleton?

 

[YanYanWan]

I can't believe people out there actually think the same way this dude does. Like, imagine thinking that if you killed 49 people, it could help Muslims leave Europe. What a fucking dumbass, dude. The more disgusting thing is that there's people supporting his actions. I feel bad that this is the way these people had to go.

 

[Guts]

You think he read SIEGE and sucked Charles Mansons dick?

These are talentless wastes that instead of doing the actually helpful thing (which is mating a white woman and raising 5 to 12 kids) he opted to take the way often sought by those who long for greatness but don't have the iron to shed; martyrdom.
Eat a dick, you glory seeking IRL weeen.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

for MSN journalist we are a board of peace all we want to do is feed fat women cake and worship Our God Joshua Conner Moon praise be his name

Dear Mister Mainstream Media,

Here in this board live the peaceable Kiwi Peoples

The terrorist supporters are over there

 

[Iamameme]

2013. 8chan exists since 2013 and not because of gamergay.

It barely had any traffic though, the site is probably still up thanks to gooberbarer, whether that's a good thing or not.

 

[DuckSucker]

These are talentless wastes that instead of doing the actually helpful thing (which is mating a white woman and raising 5 to 12 kids) he opted to take the way often sought by those who long for greatness but don't have the iron to shed; martyrdom.
Eat a dick, you glory seeking IRL weeen.

Dude please stop insulting the REAL talentless wastes. Im pretty sure they're still a league above this dude.

 

[Spooky]

These are talentless wastes that instead of doing the actually helpful thing (which is mating a white woman and raising 5 to 12 kids) he opted to take the way often sought by those who long for greatness but don't have the iron to shed; martyrdom.
Eat a dick, you glory seeking IRL weeen.

Taking 50 people out of the breeding pool will affect demographics more than having a lot of kids. Not defending what he did, but his logic is internally consistent.

 

[Guts]

Taking 50 prople out of the breeding pool will effect demographics more than having a lot of kids. Not defending what he did, but his logic is internally consistent.

I feel like he didn't even think that far ahead, honestly.

 

[Abstract]

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The answer is achieving lasting change is a lot of dull work, doing reckless selfish things that undermine your stated goal is fun, especially if you're predisposed to being anti-social.

Fun is a personal motivator, is it not?

Why he didn't open doors and why he didn't burn the place down with that gas stuck me as very odd as well, but I can't imagine he was really thinking once he got that keyed up on adrenaline. I don't think he really cares about himself aside from as a part of a community which I guess could further your point about identity crisis if you saw it that way. I'm not a doctor and haven't spoken with him.

My answer to your previous question stands though. Helter Skelter should ring a bell and explain his motivations to anyone. I don't think he expects a civil war to suddenly break out because of him. I think he just wanted to be another domino falling.

Don't equate opening doors with burning the place down. You raid and shoot up a place, step one is to puller the trigger, step two is to actually enter and walk around in the building. That's like mass-shooter 101 shit right there. He delibarately chose to be shooting a pile of people instead, because it was easy. He didn't just go over, execute the people in the pile, moved and caused more casualties. It's very clear that he didn't want any opposition.
Plus, wanting to be a "domino" is exactly what I'm saying he wants, he wants to be percieved as such but without doing anything substantial. Instead, he takes out his anger on women and children, and goes out of his way to implicate everybody, a tactic, which, in my opinion, is not going to help his cause. It's only going to royally fuck us all. It's just a selfish act from a dude who wanted to be recognised as some top meme lad.

 

[HeyYou]

Taking 50 prople out of the breeding pool will effect demographics more than having a lot of kids. Not defending what he did, but his logic is internally consistent.

His logic was fucked from the start by doing it in New Zealand. It has like a 1% Muslim population and they're all fairly moderate. What would actually tear the media apart is doing it at an extremist anti-Western mosque in the UK or something, which would be following the leftist idea of "words are violence and need to be countered with force".

 

[repentance]

Guardian still referring to "a terror cell" and still saying that the hospital was a secondary target.

 

[Lemmingwise]

To answer your question, I'm legitimately not, I am in fact no more than 20 years of age. I do understand accelerationism, though I hardly see how this term is really relevant, because doing random things to try and itensify a tense situation, doesn't inherently make you accelerationistic, it just makes you reckless really. It kind of depends on your intentions, because if you think the results from your actions will accelerate or trigger a conflict, or something like that, then sure, you're right, I'm wrong, and this is accelerationism, but I'd argue that even though he planned it, I doubt he has much concept of his own future, I feel as if he has underlying identity troubles, which leads to being demotivated and sometimes even incapable of thinking about the future. It seems to me that he does this to please his community, and that's why he tried so hard to cater to us, via memes. His manifesto and cowardly behavior in the mosque, just goes to further prove that. Seriously, why didn't he open a single door? First thing that popped into my mind, and I can't let it go.

It seems to me that people that don't understand his motivations are lacking part of their identity.

The attack was identitarian in nature. The part of identity that used to be part of the motivation used to get people to fight for kings and queens. This identity has been suppressed. So there'll be people with a hole in their identity. They'll say, I'm male or I'm female, they'll say, I'm a university student or a construction worker, but they won't say I'm white, I'm of european descent. You turn on the tv and people are actively ashamed of being white. Or German. Or what have you. In new Zealand news anchors got angry at Lauren Southern for wearing the supposedly provocative "It's okay to be white" t-shirt. It's a suppressed part of identity and really that kind of suppression never has good consequences, because the pressure will build without a release valve.

 

[QI 541]

His logic was fucked from the start by doing it in New Zealand. It has like a 1% Muslim population and they're all fairly moderate. What would actually tear the media apart is doing it at an extremist mosque in the UK or something.

Yeah good luck smuggling those weapons from NZ to UK.

 

[Lemmingwise]

It has like a 1% Muslim population and they're all fairly moderate

They always are while they're 1%.

 

[Spooky]

Don't equate opening doors with burning the place down. You raid and shoot up a place, step one is to puller the trigger, step two is to actually enter and walk around in the building. That's like mass-shooter 101 shit right there. He delibarately chose to be shooting a pile of people instead, because it was easy. He didn't just go over, execute the people in the pile, moved and caused more casualties. It's very clear that he didn't want any opposition.
Plus, wanting to be a "domino" is exactly what I'm saying he wants, he wants to be percieved as such but without doing anything substantial. Instead, he takes out his anger on women and children, and goes out of his way to implicate everybody, a tactic, which, in my opinion, is not going to help his cause. It's only going to royally fuck us all. It's just a selfish act from a dude who wanted to be recognised as some top meme lad.

That's too much assumption for me. Remember, he did go raid a 2nd mosque after. There's a lot of possible reasons that he did or didn't do things.

 

[HeyYou]

Yeah good luck smuggling those weapons from NZ to UK.

That's where I think he pretty much took the cowardly route. Do it in a country he has easy access to and with relatively lax gun laws, a town with a slow response time, and a mosque with no armed guards.

 

[Zilortha]

His logic was fucked from the start by doing it in New Zealand. It has like a 1% Muslim population and they're all fairly moderate. What would actually tear the media apart is doing it at an extremist mosque in the UK or something.

Except his point was to show that even tiny western countries like New Zealand aren't safe from "the invaders".
This might have been a highly effective attack, but I think it was really all about sending a message.

 

[Troutsmacked]

People on /pol/ are claiming this was a false flag operation.

I have no punchline.

 

[Abstract]

It seems to me that people that don't understand his motivations are lacking part of their identity.

The attack was identitarian in nature. The part of identity that used to be part of the motivation used to get people to fight for kings and queens. This identity has been suppressed. So there'll be people with a hole in their identity. They'll say, I'm male or I'm female, they'll say, I'm a university student or a construction worker, but they won't say I'm white, I'm of european descent. You turn on the tv and people are actively ashamed of being white. Or German. Or what have you. It's a suppressed part of identity and really that kind of suppression never has good consequences, because the pressure will build without a release valve.

No one walks around and is nothing more than their race, or colour. The discrepancy you're describing only really occurs in people with no other tags to attach to themselves and be proud of, such as "male, female, student, etc.".

That's too much assumption for me. Remember, he did go raid a 2nd mosque after. There's a lot of possible reasons that he did or didn't do things.

I understood it as if, it was someone else who did the other shooting? In which case, I genuinely think I might be right about this guy, but yeah obviously with the lack of information, it's guess-work, no matter how much you try to analyse his actions.

 

[Spooky]

I understood it as if, it was someone else who did the other shooting? In which case, I genuinely think I might be right about this guy, but yeah obviously with the lack of information, it's guess-work, no matter how much you try to analyse his actions.

No he did both. Don't buy into the wild game of telephone with unverified stuff like IEDs and a team of 4. Rumors like that are always spread after a mass shooting.