Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

[OB 946]

Live not far from Christchurch. On the news tonight our horse faced woman prime minister said we will be fucking up our gun laws 'Now is the time for change' the news is saying quoting her . I have to use a VPN to access the farms now this is 1984 type shit, I don't like these towel heads being in this country but fuck this ugly Australian cunt.

Why don't you take your guns and kill the police when they come to take them? Easiest way to fight back. If cops were being iced every time they went to confiscate a firearm they would stop.

 

[hambeerlyingnreed]

Lol why do people want the vid so badly?

Because they can't have it?

Though putting the video up on Twitter isn't good. The way Twitter works, the video is shown on the page, so anyone searching for info about the shooting might come across it unwillingly. There's no way to hide the content behind a NSFL spoiler. That shit disturbed me, and I don't have PTSD from being in a war or anything like that. It's also triggering to the family and friends who might be wanting to read and talk online about the incident. A link to the video though? Totally acceptable, and censoring it is just creating this reaction with people wanting to see the video.

I do think the "ban it" reaction (do these people have any idea how the internet works? or basic psychology?) to the video is interesting, seeing as CNN and other news networks replayed people jumping and falling from the flaming WTC for months on end. You'd think that over time people would be less sensitized to that stuff in media, if the theory about violence in video games, movies, etc. is correct. Or maybe it's just people virtual signaling?

 

[Unog]

I think it’s pretty undeniable that various political and demographic trends created a tense mood and trepidation about the future, that people can make a buck off of that paranoia, and worst of all discussion of these things is confined to sites like the chans which amplify the neuroses and paranoia of disturbed people like this guy no doubt was.
And his goal was to exacerbate the political divisions driven by these forces and in turn further drive them.

I agree this is the new normal, that it was a cowardly and vile act, and that the forces which created this situation are bad even if they resulted in no terrorist attacks but this makes them that much worse. And I agree the response from the political establishment will be entirely hypocritical and self-serving, which will also entrench the paranoid sentiments of future shooters. Everything I have read here has been on-point.

This guy here has read this thread and gleaned all of the useful information from it. This is probably the most condensed version of all the points this thread had to offer at the time he posted this, and I just want to quote it here because of how concisely and well made it is.

Whenever things like this happen and you see dumb shit online like "white people suck" or whatever, just get offline and talk to friends. None of my friends of all different races hate me for being white. What people like this shooter want is for people to become obsessed with Islam and an us vs. them mentality. I hope the kiwis aren't doing that. Seriousposting over, pretty sure I've shit up this thread enough.

For one, it's cute you think this man had friends. He was a very lonely guy, who couldn't discuss his actual concerns with anyone who wasn't an extremist, either for fear of being labeled a social pariah or because anyone else he talked to hand-waved and pilpul'd his concerns.

For another, Islam isn't a race. It's also a religion that has been a thorn in the side of people who genuinely want the world to be a better place for 1400 years now. The problems we're having that this guy actually had a point about regarding it's inability to coexist with western values are neither new nor some form of racial hatred. This is a man whose politicians ignored, his fellow countrymen vilified, and the rational side of the internet turned their back on.

People on either side of the idpol spectrum want to get people invested, get 'em mad. You win by not playing.

There's a game being played here, and you don't win by not playing. Nobody "wins" here, and I cannot stress that enough.

I get it, it sucks to walk into college classes and hear fellow students insulting random white guys around campus. It wouldn't remotely pass if a white guy did it. The problem is, people are expecting white people to get angry and defend this dude or insult Muslims, and that's not what you want to do to beat them. In the modern Western world, what Tarrant is suggesting isn't going to happen. What could happen if Europe pulls their head out of their asses is actually deporting terrorists and fighting ethnic divisions by encouraging integration. You'd be surprised by how much religious division can be healed. If you told someone in the 19th century that Protestants and Catholics would get along in America, they'd look at you like you're crazy.

That said, yes, Islam desperately needs a period of modernization and change.

Islam by it's very nature is immutable. The punishment it dictates for apostasy is death, and it's punishment for attempting to alter the core tenets is considered apostasy.

There's an entire discussion here to be had about Islam but that's aside from my point of replying to your post. You act as if though sudden societal uproar cannot happen in the modern age, and I can only say that you are either incredibly naive or you're impressively lacking in historical knowledge to think that. For fuck's sake the first world war was started over a seemingly small incident.

No, and most people don't, because that woman was in the out-group. Sorry, that's just how humanity works.

Not only have you been on point for this thread, but aren't you a literal fed? Why are LEO's having to request this shit from the farms?

 

[JeffA]

Lol why do people want the vid so badly?

Beats waiting years for complete factual account of what happened.
Whichever way you looks at it, a live streamed mass murder is historic.

 

[Spergsaplenty]

Why don't you take your guns and kill the police when they come to take them? Easiest way to fight back. If cops were being iced every time they went to confiscate a firearm they would stop.

I doubt they will come confiscate anyone's rifles but it's going to make it harder to obtain for normal cunts. Any criminal or psycho can just go buy one illegally or steal them to do dumb shit. It's just fucking annoying.

 

[millais]

the meme ignorance level of MSM is on par with American TV segment on /b/ circa 2004

Totally a Navy Seal

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[HeyYou]

Islam by it's very nature is immutable. The punishment it dictates for apostasy is death, and it's punishment for attempting to alter the core tenants is considered apostasy.

There's an entire discussion here to be had about Islam but that's aside from my point of replying to your post. You act as if though sudden societal uproar cannot happen in the modern age, and I can only say that you are either incredibly naive or you're impressively lacking in historical knowledge to think that. For fuck's sake the first world war was started over a seemingly small incident.

It entirely depends what your societal uproar looks like. I'd really like for another civil war or World War to not happen.

 

[Unog]

It entirely depends what your societal uproar looks like. I'd really like for another civil war or World War to not happen.

Unlike you I'd rather not have that happen, but I accept it's inevitability at this point.

Societal uproar looks like a hopped-up asshole gunning down a shitload of do-nothing citizens.

 

[OB 946]

This guy here has read this thread and gleaned all of the useful information from it. This is probably the most condensed version of all the points this thread had to offer at the time he posted this, and I just want to quote it here because of how concisely and well made it is.



For one, it's cute you think this man had friends. He was a very lonely guy, who couldn't discuss his actual concerns with anyone who wasn't an extremist, either for fear of being labeled a social pariah or because anyone else he talked to hand-waved and pilpul'd his concerns.

For another, Islam isn't a race. It's also a religion that has been a thorn in the side of people who genuinely want the world to be a better place for 1400 years now. The problems we're having that this guy actually had a point about regarding it's inability to coexist with western values are neither new nor some form of racial hatred. This is a man whose politicians ignored, his fellow countrymen vilified, and the rational side of the internet turned their back on.



There's a game being played here, and you don't win by not playing. Nobody "wins" here, and I cannot stress that enough.



Islam by it's very nature is immutable. The punishment it dictates for apostasy is death, and it's punishment for attempting to alter the core tenants is considered apostasy.

There's an entire discussion here to be had about Islam but that's aside from my point of replying to your post. You act as if though sudden societal uproar cannot happen in the modern age, and I can only say that you are either incredibly naive or you're impressively lacking in historical knowledge to think that. For fuck's sake the first world war was started over a seemingly small incident.



Not only have you been on point for this thread, but aren't you a literal fed? Why are LEO's having to request this shit from the farms?

Kinda. I'll be a fed here in another 2 months or so when the academy is finished. The reason LEAs are asking for the footage is for immediate preperation purposes. There is this thing called the National Law Enforcement Information Fusion Center which offers educational, training, and mission-critical information to federal, state, and local law enfocement. Basically it's a hub so that anything any one agency knows, be it the FBI or the smallest one horse town PD, everyone can share. The issue is that, even though the feds have it, they have not broken it down and sent it to the NLEIFC, which means that if you don't have access to Confidential -- Law Enforcement Sensitive files on the federal side, you can't get it. Luckily my shithole county has a K-Farmer on staff, so when I went to work and the SWAT guys were asking for the video for training, I was able to provide.

TL;DR Basically, the feds have the video, and once it has been analyzed they will disseminate the video and their analysis to everyone, but that doesn't help agencies that want to be prepared RIGHT NOW because they are worried about copycats or reprisal killings.

 

[HeyYou]

Luckily my shithole county has a K-Farmer on staff, so when I went to work and the SWAT guys were asking for the video for training, I was able to provide.

They didn't even question where you got it? SWAT teams give no shits.

 

[OB 946]

They didn't even question where you got it? SWAT teams give no shits.

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If an anonymous tipster leads you to a car bomb, do you send out a search team for the good samaritan?

 

[theshep]

From ABC News Australia:

Christchurch shooting coverage and why the ABC chose not to share the gunman's 'manifesto'

At ABC News we took the decision not to use the sickening footage from a Go Pro feed live streamed by the Christchurch shooter and we chose not to publish excerpts of his so-called manifesto. A few still images from outside the mosques were used.

Most mainstream media made a similar call, though some gave him a platform initially, before pulling back to a more conservative approach.

But we weren't his target audience. All the evidence suggests this was a horrific, cold-blooded, terrorist attack aimed not at the audiences of traditional news organisations but at reaching and triggering atomised and often extreme online audiences.

As has been widely reported, the accused gunman ensured his lengthy treatise was posted online shortly beforehand, he teased the attack and streamed it live, counting on frenetic oversharing to defeat or at least frustrate any attempts by social networks to stamp it out.

His every move appears to have been deliberate, calculated, web savvy and designed to grab attention.

In a brief court appearance, despite being handcuffed, the accused made a sign with his hand that could be interpreted as a message of encouragement for supporters.

The judge had ordered that his face be pixelated or blurred, but he didn't say anything about the accused's hands.

Our journalists in court reported that he'd made the gesture, but we chose not to show it.

This is a fraught area for reporting, particularly as events are unfolding and instant editorial decisions have to be made. We don't always get it right.

There is a legitimate debate to be had about the extent to which showing any disturbing pictures or identifying an attacker gives that person exactly what they want.

But reporting what happened and analysing how it could have happened are clearly in the public interest. It's what responsible journalists do — the test is whether it can be done without giving the shooter the platform they crave.

Once the order to pixelate the accused's face was made in NZ, we chose to follow that direction across our platforms.

Ordinarily a New Zealand judge's jurisdiction doesn't extend across the Tasman, but the digital world we all share doesn't recognise quaint constructs like courtrooms and national boundaries.

International audiences for ABC News are growing, many are Kiwis. As a public broadcaster we should lead in setting standards, so we made a choice.

Other credible news organisations took the same decision.

That word choice here is key.

In ABC newsrooms we make story choices based on public interest journalism and our editorial policies every day and we're rightly held to account for it.

Social media platforms have made some changes to tackle hate speech and violent behaviour, but they could choose to do more. They could set higher standards for removing offensive video and messages.

Free speech is unimaginable without the right to dissent — but commentators, opinion writers and politicians also have choices to make in the example they set.

In the end though it's on all of us — in the news sources we rely on, the social networks we join and what we choose to watch and share.

Reporting a massacre: Why the ABC didn't share the shooter's 'manifesto'

Reporting the shooting in Christchurch and analysing how it could have happened is clearly in the public interest, but the test is whether it can be done without giving the alleged shooter the platform they crave.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Unog]

They didn't even question where you got it? SWAT teams give no shits.

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If an anonymous tipster leads you to a car bomb, do you send out a search team for the good samaritan?

I would be shocked if there aren't plenty of LEOs who are members or frequent guests due to the number of calls they get about this site alone, nevermind the legitimately unhinged folks we've got on here. Hell it should probably be in the training handbook at this point as a resource for info.

Anyway I'm going to finally commit and watch the vid.

 

[The Operator]

This guy here has read this thread and gleaned all of the useful information from it. This is probably the most condensed version of all the points this thread had to offer at the time he posted this, and I just want to quote it here because of how concisely and well made it is.



For one, it's cute you think this man had friends. He was a very lonely guy, who couldn't discuss his actual concerns with anyone who wasn't an extremist, either for fear of being labeled a social pariah or because anyone else he talked to hand-waved and pilpul'd his concerns.

For another, Islam isn't a race. It's also a religion that has been a thorn in the side of people who genuinely want the world to be a better place for 1400 years now. The problems we're having that this guy actually had a point about regarding it's inability to coexist with western values are neither new nor some form of racial hatred. This is a man whose politicians ignored, his fellow countrymen vilified, and the rational side of the internet turned their back on.



There's a game being played here, and you don't win by not playing. Nobody "wins" here, and I cannot stress that enough.



Islam by it's very nature is immutable. The punishment it dictates for apostasy is death, and it's punishment for attempting to alter the core tenets is considered apostasy.

There's an entire discussion here to be had about Islam but that's aside from my point of replying to your post. You act as if though sudden societal uproar cannot happen in the modern age, and I can only say that you are either incredibly naive or you're impressively lacking in historical knowledge to think that. For fuck's sake the first world war was started over a seemingly small incident.



Not only have you been on point for this thread, but aren't you a literal fed? Why are LEO's having to request this shit from the farms?

Standard ZOG tactics are to claim opposition to White genocide is based on "fear of the future" and to demonise the resistance as losers.

 

[Changeofheart]

Now, remember the left is completely anti-racist.... But they encourage you to be racist as you like, when talking about white people.

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All they are doing is ensuring it will be happening again.

Seeing this type of shit getting normalized on the internet for the past 3-4 years is making me progressively lose all will to live. These people don't care about peace, they want more blood. Social media is not any different from 4chan/8chan in terms of being "breeding grounds for hatred" as these same people are describing them when asking for their closure.

 

[Lemmingwise]

There's a game being played here, and you don't win by not playing. Nobody "wins" here, and I cannot stress that enough

Idpol is not the same as war games with nukes, certainly not with the current demographic trends.

Nobody wins from his action besides those who use chaos, I agree with that part. But if idpol isn't used there is no demographic ability for nations to retain white leadership and with that little chance to retain white populations, in the long run.

Just the other day there were two jews on msnbc talking about the fact that the meaning of "white" will shift and we will start to think of brown people as white, which is pretty much in line with the predictions made in praktischer idealismus about 6 decades ago and is in line with the recently screencapped image of the splc having a non-hispanic-white % per decade for US and white % per european country by the desk.

I think you were saying the same thing, so I thought I expand for the couple of people that think "idpol is always bad".

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

That's a bummer, watching videos posted there was a good reminder of your mortality and to never touch power lines.

And before that, Ogrish. It's fucked up that people think these places exist for titillation (admittedly they do for some), rather than an understanding and archiving of our frailty or capacity of stupidity or evil.

Before that, I remember memoryhole.org. It was a sort of proto-wikileaks with the occasional gore.

 

[Medicated]

People posted some of his older pics. So much for the angry neckbeard incel narrative.

 

[AnOminous]

And before that, Ogrish.

And before that, rotten dot com, and before that, stileproject. And before that, Usenet binaries groups and ftp directories on sites where the people who owned the computers didn't even know they were there.

 

[Lemmingwise]

It wasn't really the fault of the Muslims in Myanmar that they were in heavy conflict with the Buddhists

You just described a situation where muslims migrated to a new country, got into conflict and invented the idea that they lived for far longer than they actually did. Whether it happened under british leadership or not, they were part of the landstealing and disenfrenchisement through lies (invented history). I don't see why you take the dindu position for them, how are they not too moral actors in this situation?