Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%

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This shooting video was pretty gruesome. The numbers is part of it - there's a literal pile of bodies in the corner - but also how callous he was, like how he shot a lady and when she was begging for help he shot her more and then drove over her.

It was over quick. The same isn't true while on fire or with a neck that's being sawed on by a bayonet.

At least by the point he drove over her, she was just a fleshy speed-bump.

Still, poor girl.

I don't care for haji, but I'm still a man.

Executing a woman is unconscionable, unless she's an active combatant with obvious lethal intent and/or capability.

And even then, once they're down and/or unarmed, they're down. Pumping another duece into their nugget is simply murderous..... and a waste of rounds.
 
Too bad then someone else didn't saved and uploaded that video elsewhere.

Btw, anyone who think then the photo of Jacinda Ardern wearing a hijab might become a new meme like these photos for example? https://imgflip.com/tag/jacinda ardern
That video was a reupload of a 2009 video about demographic replacement.

Archive.org saved it as well:
 
It was over quick. The same isn't true while on fire or with a neck that's being sawed on by a bayonet.

At least by the point he drove over her, she was just a fleshy speed-bump.

Still, poor girl.

I don't care for haji, but I'm still a man.

Executing a woman is unconscionable, unless she's an active combatant with obvious lethal intent and/or capability.

And even then, once they're down and/or unarmed, they're down. Pumping another duece into their nugget is simply murderous..... and a waste of rounds.


The first rounds he fired when she was still on her feet running away weren't murderous though?
 
Are there a lot of Muslims/ME in New Zeland prisons? How about neo-nazi/WP type of people?

Sorry if this was answered, I'm just wondering what his jail time is going to be like, realistically. I'm guessing they can't keep him in solitary for his whole prison sentence.
 
That video was a reupload of a 2009 video about demographic replacement.

Archive.org saved it as well:

The way they mentionned "please do not redistribute" had created a Streisand effect. I wonder if that video also inspired Tom Kratman, the guy who had written that dystopian novel titled "Caliphate"??
 
I just finished reading the thread, so I'm willing to comment on some points that hadn't been made already:That only makes sense if you meant that the Māori devoured the native fauna; as far as archæological evidence goes, the Māori were the first people to live in New Zealand: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Māori_people#Origins
He's talking about the Moriori. The version I got from a kiwi once was: the Maori came to New Zealand and started eating the Moriori until they ran away and found their own island.

Apparently, the modern theory is that isn't the case, despite being taught in schools within our lifetime. Although, this might be historical revisionism. Check out what happens when someone points out that they were ever even cannibals:
 
Doing google searches when you see this in the sidebar.
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God why Milo for gods sake.

He's an identity betrayer. Gay, Jewish, in an interracial marriage, immigrant -- but not Progressive. In addition, for all his faults, he was VERY effective at pushing back against the left through sheer mockery.

They will NEVER forgive him.
 
So I was clicking on one of those clickbait sites and what's interesting to note is that they're playing into the shooters hands very well. Case in point, an article by Vox called "New Zealand shows willingness to curb guns after one, not 1,981 mass shootings" is saying that the US needs to take New Zealand's lead wanting to ban guns after just one shooting.

That's on top of the endless amount of "GamerGate/Pewdiepie/Candace Owens did this" articles being churned out.
 
The first rounds he fired when she was still on her feet running away weren't murderous though?

Oh yes, absolutely. Along with every round expended on everyone else.

I wasn't speaking towards his base crime, which is well established.

I was referring to the ROE not only instilled in us; but also those innate to myself, along with anyone still posessing a spark of love & empathy for people in general.
 
It was over quick. The same isn't true while on fire or with a neck that's being sawed on by a bayonet.

At least by the point he drove over her, she was just a fleshy speed-bump.

Still, poor girl.

I don't care for haji, but I'm still a man.

Executing a woman is unconscionable, unless she's an active combatant with obvious lethal intent and/or capability.

And even then, once they're down and/or unarmed, they're down. Pumping another duece into their nugget is simply murderous..... and a waste of rounds.
Of course, it's unconscionable from an evolutionary point, but he came there to kill some Muslims whether women or men was irrelevant to him.
Why wouldn't he double-tap her? And by that logic machine guns as a concept are a waste of rounds, remember: ammo is dirt cheap.
 
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So I was clicking on one of those clickbait sites and what's interesting to note is that they're playing into the shooters hands very well. Case in point, an article by Vox called "New Zealand shows willingness to curb guns after one, not 1,981 mass shootings" is saying that the US needs to take New Zealand's lead wanting to ban guns after just one shooting.

That's on top of the endless amount of "GamerGate/Pewdiepie/Candace Owens did this" articles being churned out.
The media have had access to the full manifesto as long as anyone else and they actually have a good reason to look at it. And they're so immensely irresponsible that even in the face of the murderer's unfiltered statement of intent, the media are still giving this guy exactly what he wants.
 
With the site settling down to normal conditions, the torrents going strong and everything being stable, I think now is the time to unbottle some of my thoughts on this. I haven't really said much at all since it went down.

What is pretty shocking about this guy is that I think he pulled off the shooting a lot of people think about. A lot of /pol/ posters probably imagined something exactly like this. A manifesto with intentionally misdirecting language, casting blame on people arbitrarily for humor value, featuring an upfront thesis explaining exactly what intent is in black-and-white before writing a bunch of nonsense you know will be quoted out of context as ammunition by ideologues. A little something for everyone. Everyone's happy (or rather, happy to be angry) with what they feel is a silver bullet towards rivalries.

The same day, the government plans to disarm people further. The government begins to censor people. ISPs crack down on Internet access trying to find the videos. YouTube, Twitter, Reddit, Facebook especially have egg on their face. All of these platforms are going to promise to 'do more' and fuck over innocent people trying to enjoy the Internet. Sterilize things more. Make it less accessible.

The whole point is to make people hate each other, drive retaliatory action, give media exactly what they want so they frenzy over it, give platforms a reason to be even more advertiser friendly, all while turning the act of murder into nothing more than another meme with references to shit all his old Internet friends know and love already - because he was 'one of the boys' and he definitely at least knew of me, if only indirectly through my work on 8chan. We all speak the same language of stupid bullshit Journalists don't understand.

What he wanted to do was make the world a little bit worse than it was when he was free, and he accomplished that. Make the Internet such that it is no longer a pacifier in the mouths of tens of millions of adult children. Make things so fucking boring that getting up, going out, and killing people is more entertaining than spending another second on Twitter dot fucking com.
I remember in your New Year's/2018 lolcow recap stream you said you were fairly optimistic that normies would be start to be scared by such blatant and overzealous censorship which would help blunt it or reverse it even if just a little. I still feel similarly. Do you still think this is the case or no?
Oh jesus, this won't play out well.

New zealand prime minister wearing hijab in "solidarity" today.

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Brent Tarrant: Western civilization is being overrun by Islam and other savages who wish to murder us and subjugate us.
NZ PM: I'll prove you wrong by putting on Islamic garb!

Dumb virtue signaling cunt. These same people wonder where the NPC meme comes from. It comes from this shit right here. They are so predictable and so similar in their straight up religious adherence to the progressive narrative and politically correct dogma that some sped who 86'd a mosque full of muslims was 100% accurate in his assessment of what their reaction to what he did would be.

I want off your wild ride, Mr. Bones; yet in my heart I know it will never end.
 
Gotta love when apologists show their face on social media, and get mad when others are -rightfully- horrified by senseless violence.
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Of course, it's unconscionable from an evolutionary point, but he came there to kill some Muslims whether women or men was irrelevant to him.
Why wouldn't he double-tap her? And by that logic machine guns as a concept are a waste of rounds, remember: ammo is dirt cheap.

In reference to his motivations, you're right.

Speaking as a former grunt who was married to Ma Deuce; no round is wasted, even if it doesn't have an immediate or visible target.
"When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic."

However, he did not have an MG; he had shotguns and semi-auto carbines (in apparently rifle calibers), and he had no reason to issue suppressing fire after the initial entry.

Therefore; by wasting rounds on individuals who were either dead, dying, or incapacitated, Tardant was hampering his own success.
 
Gotta love when apologists show their face on social media, and get mad when others are -rightfully- horrified by senseless violence.
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Except he doesn't mean his mom when he was a kid, but his mom right now when she won't get his tendies for him right now.

Therefore; by wasting rounds on individuals who were either dead, dying, or incapacitated, Tardant was hampering his own success.

I think he was kind of at a loss when he'd actually done the deed and didn't know what to do next. Otherwise, he'd have done something more tactically useful like immediately leave to the next target or use that incendiary instead of aimlessly wandering back and forth just to shoot some dead people again.
 
I just remembered something while watching this morning's Today show: they never talked about why he did it - which has been stated many times here - was to sow more seeds of division between opposing political parties (most notably in the US), despite naming the guy and plastering his face for everyone to see (which NZ doesn't do because "Fuck you, you're not getting your 15 minutes of fame"), trying to make connections to Trump and this genetic fuck-up while quoting the SPLC about the spooky white nationalists rising up.

It's not like he didn't leave a cringey, meme-ridden manifesto or anything stating such. I don't understand, is the MSM so detached that they'd ignore what he specifically said he wanted to come out of this to push their agenda?
Like I get they already are, but it's obvious to anyone who reads what he wrote.

But a lot of normies/boomers aren't going to take the 5 minutes to Google it and read what he wrote because it's easier to have biased CNN activists tell them instead.
 
He's talking about the Moriori. The version I got from a kiwi once was: the Maori came to New Zealand and started eating the Moriori until they ran away and found their own island.

Apparently, the modern theory is that isn't the case, despite being taught in schools within our lifetime. Although, this might be historical revisionism. Check out what happens when someone points out that they were ever even cannibals:
The Moriori were Maori who lived on different islands. One day a tribe of Maori hitched a ride on a British ship because they wanted the islands for themselves. Because the Moriori were hippies and the Maori very warlike, the Moriori got their ass beat and were literally eaten to extinction.
 
It's not like he didn't leave a cringey, meme-ridden manifesto or anything stating such. I don't understand, is the MSM so detached that they'd ignore what he specifically said he wanted to come out of this to push their agenda?

Yes. They do the same to Islamic terrorists who explicitly say why they're doing what they're doing even more clearly than a meme-ifesto full of shitposting. Despite the jihadis being very clear about what they want and why they did it, they invariably make up a bunch of hand-wringing bullshit trying to invent motivations for them.
 
It's not like he didn't leave a cringey, meme-ridden manifesto or anything stating such. I don't understand, is the MSM so detached that they'd ignore what he specifically said he wanted to come out of this to push their agenda?
Like I get they already are, but it's obvious to anyone who reads what he wrote.

That's what he was counting on. That only a bunch of autists at the ass end of the internet read everything and follow up on things. I went to the ISIS website after one terrorist attack ages ago and read one of the translated manifestos. And it was perfectly logical. It was a retaliation for the wests continued interference in the middle east over the past 70 years in order to secure energy resources for their multinational corporations. And then if you read through the history of the various countries you see the US and the CIA pop up over and over again.
 
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