Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

[muh_moobs]

If that turns out to be true, I'd just be happy for all the media bullshit to turn out to be such. Still, I'm sad for the death of those people. Also, if he wanted to do something useful, rather than shooting them, he should've just infiltrated it and take some photos and posted them somewhere where people could've seen those. but since he's just a psycho, that's too much to ask.

also, for some reason, people are now saying that he was training on fucking fortnite.

’Fortnite trained me to be a killer’: Twisted humor of dark internet culture in focus after another attack

The radicalizing effect of more extreme corners of the internet, such as 8Chan, is again being scrutinized in the wake of a massacre of 49 Muslims in New Zealand on Friday.

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If things got far enough that the state of Israel needed to intervene, the NZ authorities weren't doing anything.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

Of course I understand that. That doesn’t mean that some white supremacists don’t use the game to reenact their fucked up fantasties. That doesn’t mean the game itself is bad, it’s just a game. But it’s silly to pretend like extremists don’t exist. I think it’s pretty telling that the community on Reddit has a lot of experiences with them.

Again, I don’t see the point in making fun of people who are trying to distance themselves from the extremists whose ideology just resulted in the murder of 49 people. No, they don’t HAVE to distance themselves, but it’s probably best that they are.

A lot of people who are completely normal will oftentimes roleplay during games like this. There's literally nothing weird about someone making a "remove kebab" joke when they're playing a game that's literally about crusaders fighting saracens.

 

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Yeah, seeing the Stellaris reddit mods fall over themselves to denounce, I dunno, Space Islamophobia or something, was interesting. Especially since the sub has a pretty large concentration of Antifa terrorists and fuckwit AnComs from Chappo Trap House.

 

[Medicated]

It feels with Mossad and the mosque radicalization news from couple years ago that it's either that stars aligned themselves upon such insane coincidence or the shooter is truly playing 4D chess.

One thing is for sure: Everybody is confused as fuck, or least the MSM. They can't stop flinging shit and back, and with statement from his family that he spent his youth playing video games I feel like Aussie censorship on games might spill to other countries than just Germany if that gets any traction...

I think he's fully aware of what he's doing, as aware as you or me. He's hoping this media frenzy and social panic will squeeze people out of the middle and into the left or right. He thought that if the media and the corporations want to play hugbox identity politics, he's going to put everything into high gear and see what comes out the other side.

Now I'm thinking Hotwheels had the right idea when he scooted to the far east and got some asian girlfriends.

 

[Norvic]

Christchurch killer may have 'trained' on Fortnite

Christchurch killer may have 'trained' on Fortnite

Some have noted similarities between the game and the footage of the massacre.

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I must have missed the part of the video where, after shooting everyone, he then demolished the mosque for crafting materials.

 

[zap2theextreme]

As proven by this website the mainstream media are no longer the gatekeepers of information. I wouldn't be against limiting the amount of time mass shootings have in the news cycle when it comes to these large corporate media platforms. They're already compromised propaganda platforms so what does it matter? Don't broadcast the terrorist's face, their name, or manifesto. There's no reason to subject average person to a week long poisonous soul sucking round-table of talking heads pointing the finger at each other. Politically motivated mass shooters like this always have a digital paper trail so their motivations will never be in doubt if you care to investigate further, as like I said the main stream media are no longer the gatekeepers of information.

 

[OB 946]

Of course I understand that. That doesn’t mean that some white supremacists don’t use the game to reenact their fucked up fantasties. That doesn’t mean the game itself is bad, it’s just a game. But it’s silly to pretend like extremists don’t exist. I think it’s pretty telling that the community on Reddit has a lot of experiences with them.

Again, I don’t see the point in making fun of people who are trying to distance themselves from the extremists whose ideology just resulted in the murder of 49 people. No, they don’t HAVE to distance themselves, but it’s probably best that they are.

Why? So they can get told they aren't doing enough?

Before you take a course of action you should ask yourself: "what is the purpose? What will I accomplish?" These people, by saying that they don't agree with the Nazis (nobody accused them of that anyway) are just painting a target on themselves. If you just don't say anything it's a non issue. If you bring it up you are hit with the "yeah you aren't agreeing with nazis but you aren't fighting them and if you are you aren't doing it enough because they still exist."

It's a lose - lose. Public discourse has broken down to the point where white people can say "I dislike racism, POCs need better opportunity" and you're a fucking racist because you're speaking from privilege or you are taking the spotlight from actual POCs.

That was the shooter's point. He was right. Whether you like it or not the shooter was 100% right about the state of public discourse and everyone is playing directly into his hands. He wasn't a white supremacist, he wasn't a nazi, he was a memester and an accelerationist.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

As proven by this website the mainstream media are no longer the gatekeepers of information. I wouldn't be against limiting the amount of time mass shootings have in the news cycle when it comes to these large corporate media platforms. They're already compromised propaganda platforms so what does it matter? Don't broadcast the terrorist's face, their name, or manifesto. There's no reason to subject average person to a week long poisonous soul sucking round-table of talking heads pointing the finger at each other. Politically motivated mass shooters like this always have a digital paper trail so their motivations will never be in doubt if you care to investigate further, as like I said the main stream media are no longer the gatekeepers of information.

To be fair, although I do agree the media is at fault for these panics and fear mongering, the average person is just as bad for not becoming more informed on the subjects instead of getting their information second hand and not doing even a bit of research. I know, people have lives and don't have infinite time, but if people in society want to be treated like adults they also need to start acting like them. (Que responsibility speech and requirements here) Being uninformed and ignorant is detrimental in its own case.

 

[not william stenchever]

I'm pretty sure far more people use CK2 to do wacky things like turn the pope gay and seduce him, make their horse their designated heir, or play as the anti christ than use it as a Remove Kebab simulator. Oh, and incest, lots and lots of incest.

 

[Slap47]

It was only a matter of time until the fan communities embraced official Paradox policy.

 

[zap2theextreme]

To be fair, although I do agree the media is at fault for these panics and fear mongering, the average person is just as bad for not becoming more informed on the subjects instead of getting their information second hand and not doing even a bit of research. I know, people have lives and don't have infinite time, but if people in society want to be treated like adults they also need to start acting like them. (Que responsibility speech and requirements here) Being uninformed and ignorant is detrimental in its own case.

Well yeah, but whats easier? Educating the retards or turning the valve and shutting off the retard spigot they drink from?

 

[Dingo]

Imam soaked in Gatorade.

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[zap2theextreme]

Lmao it's crazy that there's still conspiracy theories about this shooting when there's literally a second to second first person account of the entire thing.

 

[Rungle]

I must have missed the part of the video where, after shooting everyone, he then demolished the mosque for crafting materials.

Maybe if he liked other games he did.

 

[Slap47]

Lmao it's crazy that there's still conspiracy theories about this shooting when there's literally a second to second first person account of the entire thing.

Only the first shooting was recorded.

 

[Haunted Dishwasher]

Imam soaked in Gatorade.

No bloodstain looks this transparent, even scrubbing some blood from a scratch wound/scab doesn't look like this.
MSM is just usual with their mental gymnastics and despite of professionals advising to curb their reporting on this, they're just far too greedy not to get extra shekels off a tragedy.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

Why? So they can get told they aren't doing enough?

Before you take a course of action you should ask yourself: "what is the purpose? What will I accomplish?" These people, by saying that they don't agree with the Nazis (nobody accused them of that anyway) are just painting a target on themselves. If you just don't say anything it's a non issue. If you bring it up you are hit with the "yeah you aren't agreeing with nazis but you aren't fighting them and if you are you aren't doing it enough because they still exist."

It's a lose - lose. Public discourse has broken down to the point where white people can say "I dislike racism, POCs need better opportunity" and you're a fucking racist because you're speaking from privilege or you are taking the spotlight from actual POCs.

That was the shooter's point. He was right. Whether you like it or not the shooter was 100% right about the state of public discourse and everyone is playing directly into his hands. He wasn't a white supremacist, he wasn't a nazi, he was a memester and an accelerationist.

I agree, I'd argue he's more than just a memester and accelerationist, he's what I'd call an "observer."

Unlike a traditional person who uses base psychology to get an understanding of how general people think he (as the name implies) observes people, learns how they think and figures out what will set them off and how to make them tick, and how to manipulate them like pieces on a chess board. It's the difference between a therapist using poor psychology that often times is not as accurate as people would like to believe, and a card shark who can read most of your hand by looking at small reactions from the opposing players at a table based on experience and understanding. The fact he was planning for two years was probably part of him testing people's reaction and figuring out to get the desired result by reaction he wanted or intended to cause.

It's also why I agree he's not nuts, or socio-path, his actions speak to a manipulated end game where most sociopaths live in the moment ignoring consequence of their actions and in regards to nut jobs his actions are by no means chaotic or unintended. Hate to say "He's playing 4D chess" but in a sense he's playing chess while most of society is still playing checkers.

 

[not william stenchever]

It's entirely possible that before the cameras showed up the guy in the white robes asked "Is that orange soda in the mosque's fridge still there? I have an idea."

 

[Slap47]

No bloodstain looks this transparent, even scrubbing some blood from a scratch wound/scab doesn't look like this.
MSM is just usual with their mental gymnastics and despite of professionals advising to curb their reporting on this, they're just far too greedy not to get extra shekels off a tragedy.

The problem with any history is that people are retarded for no reason. WW2 happened but you won't have any trouble finding Vets who make shit up for literally no reason.

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

Daily reminder that Brenton Tarrant is an evil motherfucker and if you feel any sympathy for him and his motivations you can get fucked.



Don’t see the problem here. Some people DO use video games like Crusader Kings to act out their white supremacist fantasies. Doesn’t mean the games themselves are bad (they’re not), doesn’t mean the entire gaming community is bad (they’re not), but let’s not pretend the assholes don’t exist. Regular gamers are right to denounce them and try to distance themselves from people who wish Nazi Germany won WWII and take “remove Kebab” seriously.

Agree fully with the second paragraph, but not the first. The guy has legitimate concerns shared by many people, on all sides of the political divides. Was he wrong in his actions? Of course. Was he wrong in his assessment of the situation? Most likely. But although his tactic is misguided and the shooting is just plain fucking terrible, and yeah, evil, his motivation is pretty much what anyone has: to affect change to correct what they see as wrongness and injustice in the world. It's a "road to hell paved with good intentions" sort of thing, but just dismissively ignoring his problem is exactly what lead to this, rather than it being stopped by actually ameliorating the legitimate complaint. Same thing with the blowback of American policy leading to 9/11. Wouldn't it be better to understand where the legitimate complaints exist, try to rectify them, rather than the dismissal and vilification you offer, or the same vilification after 9/11 towards Muslims offered us as a solution? Correcting the fucked up shit beforehand should be the intent, rather than the tribalism both he and most terrorists attempt to foment.

These aren't any solutions or improvements, they are just continuation, IMO.

Let him hang, IMO, but I do have sympathy. He's kind of a fuck up, but felt that was his only way to actually affect change. I think he's wrong about the accelerationalist approach, but I guess we're likely heading that way now, judging by responses so far, so I guess we'll soon find out. I consider him little different than the 9/11 terrorists. Locked in a belief that they had to do something hideous to improve the world, and fatalistic or powerless enough that they figured that was the only way.