Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%

  • Total voters
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Well with those people pushing those kinds of agendas. I suppose the endgame would be to destabilize the fabric of society and erode the idea of sovereignty and borders to the point where the world is nothing more than a North Korea for a handful of Kim Jong Uns, with an oppressed underclass that exists only to toil and serve their whims. And white nations are typically the most stable and the most protective of their borders, so they'd have to go down first.

It's all very orwellian, but apparently this past week a few orwellian things have happened already.
Here's my theories on the end game: Based on discussions I've had with these nut jobs.

These people are really that low IQ that they believe by eradicating Whites they will have a utopia free from "evil" and "oppression." That everyone will just sing Kumbaya together without the evil White people. That the technologies "evil White men" have hidden will resurface and there will be no more death or cancer, or whatever. Racism will cease to exist, sexism, bigotry, etc. Everyone will be equal magically and no more pain will be endured.

The real truth is if that happens it will just be a regression to tribal warfare and many of these useful idiots will end up slaughtered in a large race war against each other. More than likely and everything would turn into a third world shit hole.

The elites on the other hand seem to be trying to enforce a one world government and the one thing that ties White people as removable targets is White populaces often revolt against their governments while most minority groups don't historically. Basically it looks like a Kalergi plan is being enforced. If you haven't read up on it, I recommend doing so, it's quite interesting to a lot of things currently happening. In the long run the elites would have a subservient class of people who would accept whatever is pushed on them, and be more easy to control without threat of large rebellion.

There's also ties into Zionism (Note: This doesn't mean all Jews, but mainly subsets who follow Zionism) and the like, who have a very similar end game from their own statements which is also quite disturbing.
 
Here's my theories on the end game: Based on discussions I've had with these nut jobs.

These people are really that low IQ that they believe by eradicating Whites they will have a utopia free from "evil" and "oppression." That everyone will just sing Kumbaya together without the evil White people. That the technologies "evil White men" have hidden will resurface and there will be no more death or cancer, or whatever. Racism will cease to exist, sexism, bigotry, etc. Everyone will be equal magically and no more pain will be endured.

The real truth is if that happens it will just be a regression to tribal warfare and many of these useful idiots will end up slaughtered in a large race war against each other. More than likely and everything would turn into a third world shit hole.

The elites on the other hand seem to be trying to enforce a one world government and the one thing that ties White people as removable targets is White populaces often revolt against their governments while most minority groups don't historically. Basically it looks like a Kalergi plan is being enforced. If you haven't read up on it, I recommend doing so, it's quite interesting to a lot of things currently happening. In the long run the elites would have a subservient class of people who would accept whatever is pushed on them, and be more easy to control without threat of large rebellion.

There's also ties into Zionism (Note: This doesn't mean all Jews, but mainly subsets who follow Zionism) and the like, who have a very similar end game from their own statements which is also quite disturbing.

Hmm since the shooter had been fairly well read on his history considering the names he wrote on his guns, then he must've also known of this theory. But since it's not relevant in the terms of his immediate goals, he thought it not really worth mentioning. Since he needs to enact change now. And with media controlling public discourse, the only way to affect change would be to overload the system instead of working with it, since you are already branded a "heretic" in religious terms, if you attempt to speak out.
 
Hmm since the shooter had been fairly well read on his history considering the names he wrote on his guns, then he must've also known of this theory. But since it's not relevant in the terms of his immediate goals, he thought it not really worth mentioning. Since he needs to enact change now. And with media controlling public discourse, the only way to affect change would be to overload the system instead of working with it, since you are already branded a "heretic" in religious terms, if you attempt to speak out.
That's exactly what I'm led to believe "forced his hand" so to speak. He realized debate wasn't solving the issues (and currently isn't either sadly) and so he made a gamble to see if he could provoke both sides. The problem is his gamble failed and now Whites as a collective group are basically setting themselves as punching bags to the other out-groups who are demonizing them.

With or without this shooting I'm starting to believe to solve these issue won't be solved until further violence occurs, or a total collapse (but that would lead to violence none-the-less.) Either solution or other possible and feasible outcomes also look to be lose-lose unless there are some random variables other observers and myself are quite frankly missing.
 
I found this pretty interesting because I was only saying the other day that with the internet comes the ability for niche groups to form communities and develop echo-chambers, reaffirming whatever belief they all may hold. I also 100% agree with the "not give a shit" mentality because I am in my 20s and definitely desensitized to this type of rl gore. Those saying that "the video is the worst they've ever seen" and honestly it's not even that bad, I've seen far far worse.

We have reached the point where a massacre occurred and the shooter meme'd all the way through. I do agree with the majority of his manifesto and fucking hate these 3rd world shitskin immigrants but killing children is absolutely not the way to tackle the issue.

I generally make it a point not watch videos of this nature, the last one I watched was a some guys getting burned alive in a cage or the stupid couple that went biking across Central Asia.. As violence goes, this was G-Rated compared to the Jihadi beheading videos that are out there. After watching this, I am certain that were Louisa Vesterager Jespersen and Maren Ueland given the choice they would have chosen being shot to death rather than being raped and beheaded.

The manifesto had much I would tend to agree with.
 
That's exactly what I'm led to believe "forced his hand" so to speak. He realized debate wasn't solving the issues (and currently isn't either sadly) and so he made a gamble to see if he could provoke both sides. The problem is his gamble failed and now Whites as a collective group are basically setting themselves as punching bags to the other out-groups who are demonizing them.
On the flipside, to hardcore 1488ers and whatnot it was a success that's emboldened them. While cville was seen as a flop both due to the kind of nutcases showing up there, the mass doxing afterwards, and the car incident that many of them saw as a setup (which does have some weight to it), this is basically everything they've wanted to do but never actually had the balls to do. Hell even that synagogue shooting was seen as a mixed bag because the guy shot a bunch of random old people.

The Daily Stormer in particular has been gloating about this since it happened, Breitbart had to turn off their comment section and ban people for supporting the shooter, and YouTube copies of the soundtrack of the shooter have been swarmed with comments about it, even more than other songs used in shock videos or liked by other mass shooters. The fact said mosque also had a few of their members go on to get killed by drone strikes helped along with the fact that far more people don't like Muslims compared to Jews.
 
New Zealand is part of the Commonwealth, mate
You missed the point. They're following the UK's lead in repressing criticisms of groups they deem to be of special interest.

I wonder if there's a timeline post-2001 where gov't became less cucked and decided to BTFO Islamic countries in renewed crusades, instead of mass migration.
 
On the flipside, to hardcore 1488ers and whatnot it was a success that's emboldened them. While cville was seen as a flop both due to the kind of nutcases showing up there, the mass doxing afterwards, and the car incident that many of them saw as a setup (which does have some weight to it), this is basically everything they've wanted to do but never actually had the balls to do. Hell even that synagogue shooting was seen as a mixed bag because the guy shot a bunch of random old people.

The Daily Stormer in particular has been gloating about this since it happened, Breitbart had to turn off their comment section and ban people for supporting the shooter, and YouTube copies of the soundtrack of the shooter have been swarmed with comments about it, even more than other songs used in shock videos or liked by other mass shooters. The fact said mosque also had a few of their members go on to get killed by drone strikes helped along with the fact that far more people don't like Muslims compared to Jews.
That is true, but even then White supremacist in general (of all the different groups) have a small base in the first place which faces the fact this gamble has led governments to pushing for more censorship and the media to go into a blood frenzy, partially due to incompetence and being illiterate but I digress.

In the long run it's done more harm than good unless that was the intention of the shooter all along. Though I'm not sure which is the actual case despite what was in the manifesto or implied by the shooter himself if we take him at his word or claimed beliefs.
 
I generally make it a point not watch videos of this nature, the last one I watched was a some guys getting burned alive in a cage or the stupid couple that went biking across Central Asia.. As violence goes, this was G-Rated compared to the Jihadi beheading videos that are out there. After watching this, I am certain that were Louisa Vesterager Jespersen and Maren Ueland given the choice they would have chosen being shot to death rather than being raped and beheaded.

The manifesto had much I would tend to agree with.
On the flipside, to hardcore 1488ers and whatnot it was a success that's emboldened them. While cville was seen as a flop both due to the kind of nutcases showing up there, the mass doxing afterwards, and the car incident that many of them saw as a setup (which does have some weight to it), this is basically everything they've wanted to do but never actually had the balls to do. Hell even that synagogue shooting was seen as a mixed bag because the guy shot a bunch of random old people.

The Daily Stormer in particular has been gloating about this since it happened, Breitbart had to turn off their comment section and ban people for supporting the shooter, and YouTube copies of the soundtrack of the shooter have been swarmed with comments about it, even more than other songs used in shock videos or liked by other mass shooters. The fact said mosque also had a few of their members go on to get killed by drone strikes helped along with the fact that far more people don't like Muslims compared to Jews.

Considering the brutality of the countless terrorist acts of the Islamic State, the bombings in Western countries, as well as the discovery of Terror Cells operating out of mosques around the world. There is a massive discrepancy of treatment from the media of the two groups. And the public eats it up and internalizes it.

So I hate to say, but the nazis do have a point.
 
The problem is his gamble failed and now Whites as a collective group are basically setting themselves as punching bags to the other out-groups who are demonizing them.
That's just a continuation, not something new.

On the flipside, to hardcore 1488ers and whatnot it was a success that's emboldened them.

If we take his claims at face value (we shouldn't) he would be a 14-er not a 1488-er. He had written on his rifle 1414, which shows there was enough room for 1488, but he chose not to.

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You missed the point. They're following the UK's lead in repressing criticisms of groups they deem to be of special interest.

I wonder if there's a timeline post-2001 where gov't became less cucked and decided to BTFO Islamic countries in renewed crusades, instead of mass migration.
Well the west is the fault of mass migration to europe to begin with. Iraq, Libya, Syria, the rise of isis all because we wanted control of these places. What a renewed crusade gets you is war and millions of people fleeing.
 
That's just a continuation, not something new.



If we take his claims at face value (we shouldn't) he would be a 14-er not a 1488-er. He had written on his rifle 1414, which shows there was enough room for 1488, but he chose not to.

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He did say he's sympathetic to Mosley, not Hitler.

Which is funny because Mosley was old money and probably wouldn't much care for the well-being of the people if it wasn't politically convenient to do so.
 
Well the west is the fault of mass migration to europe to begin with. Iraq, Libya, Syria, the rise of isis all because we wanted control of these places. What a renewed crusade gets you is war and millions of people fleeing.
See, I don't buy that claim. The politicians of Europe and the US and the west could have said no. Instead they decided to bend over backwards for this migration crisis, and for no particular reason well aside from George Soro's involvement. But aside from that, they could stop it but won't. *The elites I mean. (politicans)
 
I think this is a new phenomenon. When white Americans were attacked in 9/11 or in the Oklahoma bombing (latter was done by a white dude, but still) people were shocked and raged.

After 9/11 our president made the comment that Islam was the religion of peace thus diminishing blame on Islam and its tenets for violence. After Oklahoma everyone were shocked and the outrage was palpable. However since OKC the media has linked every white nationalist attack with the OKC bombing, even though they have nothing in common except for the race of the perpetrators.
 
See, I don't buy that claim. The politicians of Europe and the US and the west could have said no. Instead they decided to bend over backwards for this migration crisis, and for no particular reason well aside from George Soro's involvement. But aside from that, they could stop it but won't. *The elites I mean. (politicans)
We let them in for cheap labor, (you guys always make it out to be something bigger.) They're not doing it out of the goodness of their heart or because the native population demanded it. It's because Europe work force is getting older and more people are educated. We still need people to do unskilled labor to keep society going. And it's much quicker to import millions of shitskins then to reorganize a entire continents economy
 
Well the west is the fault of mass migration to europe to begin with. Iraq, Libya, Syria, the rise of isis all because we wanted control of these places. What a renewed crusade gets you is war and millions of people fleeing.
The public in the west has consistently voted against these wars. Conclusion: it's the not the west, but western leadership that has been responsible for the mass migration. And this migration itself was the goal, because it wouldn't have been that hard to stop (look at what hungary managed with some fences and a little bit of patrolling). Instead NGO's pick up people at african coasts and drop them off in Italy and booklets promising housing and welfare were spread to refugees in turkey and greece, that had already settled and found jobs to cajole a trek to western europe.

 
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