Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%

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Omg gunsperg shut up about the 2nd Amendment for once, I was talking about how the left and right wings keep getting more extreme and neither is willing to compromise
The right wing has been compromising with the left for years. It is the left who does not compromise and keeps getting further and further extreme about doubling down. Some thing's can't be compromised on and the left wants the right to just basically suicide for their Utopian insanity.
 
I was discussing the shooting with a friend today, and he asked me a decent question: Does anyone have any logs of the livestream chat while he was doing it? Was there any chats at all, or was everyone who watched live avoiding the chat like a toxic waste dump?
 
The joke is the media's insistence that he has to have been indoctrinated by someone, they always act as if it's impossible for someone to reach conclusions like this by themselves. He came to his own conclusions, wasn't 'inspired' by anyone. His entire problem was that no one else was doing anything meaningful.
Follow the context of my post please. I was responding to someone saying it was suspicious that he 'appeared trained' and noted things he did that would indicate training, acting like it was proof of some conspiracy. Now you're arguing the same thing from the opposite angle. I don't care. My point is that him backing into hallways to reload isn't evidence of anything, that's just common sense.
I was merely mocking the shooter's assertion that he trained for 2 years for the massacre, and yet, he made numerous mistakes. Reloading in the hallway was probably not the dumbest thing he did, but carrying only one weapon in and having to go back to the vehicle to retrieve another weapon was a complete waste of time and it allowed for anyone hiding to escape. Also, I would have carried at least two 9mm pistols with multiple magazines to keep anyone from thinking of rushing me. Shooting the shotgun in the car was the absolute most idiotic thing I've ever seen in my entire life. I laughed out loud watching him try to clear out the cartridge and drive at the same time.. I wasn't calling out your post, I apologize if it seemed so..

Omg gunsperg shut up about the 2nd Amendment for once, I was talking about how the left and right wings keep getting more extreme and neither is willing to compromise
You can't have the First Amendment without the 2nd. Think about it..If the government takes our weapons, then the First Amendment is utterly worthless because if you can't speak truth to power then you are their slave. As far as any compromise being possible, which I don't ever see happening between the left and the right because true statesmen don't exist anymore.Those brave and principled leaders from both parties that used to put our country and its citizens ahead of party affiliations. Both sides have been conned into arguing over social issues while the foxes raid the treasury. The rise of the Socialist Wing of the Democrat Party will only fracture our nation even more until blood will be spilled in the streets.
 
Lol i love this guy

https://www.rt.com/news/454083-senator-blames-muslims-mosques/

Australian MPs have drafted a censure motion against Anning that is expected to be backed by a majority in April. Anning laughed off the measure, saying: "What, is Mr Morrison going to give me a flogging with his lace hanky? I hope it's not too painful."

This has to be the second most successful terror attack off all time, the left, media and center are doing everything this guy said they would.
 
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This is for SukiperShipper, since Wiremu is belong to her and since she’s from New Zealand when the shooting happened.
This is after Shane is told about the shooting in Christchurch at two Mosques and that at least 49 people are dead. Besides the fact that the attack was live stream, the attack was identified as a Australian which horrific Shane.
He went to the shed were Wiremu was crying beside his crew and apologize for what happen. The crew hug each other and try to cheer them up. This time, their is no haka or silly comment, just pure sadness and rage within the two engines and crew.
For you are commenting on it, please don’t say something offensive or rude, think before you commented.

 
this guy fucking calculated every little detail to make sure everything was JUST right. he didn't die so that he could witness and further bait people, he left various things in his manifesto to see the news get caught up on like the one network saying he was a navy seal, he said things that would immediately make people play the blame game and put themselves in the spotlight just to look superior, he targeted a specific mosque where there were certain ties with isis, he streamed the shooting at one mosque but not the other just to see if people would claim shit that 100% goes against the first streaming, jesus. this guy thought of everything. he knew that the PM would immediately say that we need stricter gun control, he wanted to try and accelerate things in the us to see if one side would try and restrict gun control, and the absolute worst one...

he laid out everything, clear and concise for everyone to read, knowing fully that the media and other big forces would ignore it. he left it out to read because he knew only the average joe would read it front to cover. it's fucking disgusting when the media proves a mass shooter right
also, i'd like to add that the police in the area used bushmaster AR-15s. you know, the company that could never shake off the reputation of their AR's used in the sandy hook shooting. one he found that out, he must've thought that this area was a jackpot for controversies across the board. the worst part is new zealand prisons are pretty cushy compared to american prisons.
http://archive.is/TGsHr (originally https://www.corrections.govt.nz/working_with_offenders/prison_sentences/being_in_prison.html)
so far from what i'm reading, I haven't seen anything regarding "all cells have a TV of some kind", but i'm guessing that is the case. he will most likely see stuff that's going on in the outside world as we're seeing right now, and he will laugh it all up.
 
It seems that Tarrant may not even be charged with a terror offense. [Using terror laws against NZ gunman could allow him to grandstand, says former prosecutor / https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceani...d-says-former-prosecutor-20190318-p5157u.html]
Maybe someone has thought of this, but is there anyway to nominate Tarrant as a lolcows? I'm sure there will be lots of shit to post if he goes to trial and represents himself. But the Aussies are saying they might take him back to Australia to serve his sentence when he is convicted. So he goes into a high security prison which they already have chocka of Islamist terrorists. What could go wrong? They should live stream it.
I do not think anyone has noticed this yet how closely he plagiarized from Order 15 - the sonnerrad on the cover of his "manifesto" was theirs and so were a lot of his ideas - and followed Breivik's training regime. There is also a news report that he was a fat adolsecent who played ay too many computer games but then hit the gym to become a chad. Got the body. Kind of; But not the brain or the girls - apparently did not know what to do. Was super sensitive about his lack of height. And the prick kills 50 people and injures a heap of others. And causes Australia to lose its mind. NZ hs coped quite well.
 
I do not think anyone has noticed this yet how closely he plagiarized from Order 15 - the sonnerrad on the cover of his "manifesto" was theirs and so were a lot of his ideas - and followed Breivik's training regime. There is also a news report that he was a fat adolsecent who played ay too many computer games but then hit the gym to become a chad. Got the body. Kind of; But not the brain or the girls - apparently did not know what to do.

It's quite obvious he knows of and respects Brevik, since he references the Templar and asks for their blessing in the Manifesto. Many of his references are about White Identity and defending it and traditionally European ethnic groups and cultures. His Grandma said he played many videogame in his youth. But since he's 28, most people simply assumed he must've played videogames the entire time.

Here's a younger photo of him that makes him look like the typical average Australian young adult. No hoverhand, no Fedora, no trenchie, no katana. All the information we keep finding out, is that he is the opposite of the type of stereotype you'd think of.

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A mass shooting isn't as rare as something like a major diplomatic incident to justify the risk

It could only be a major diplomatic incident if 1. It wasn't pre-agreed or 2. They manage to accurately ascertain find the nation responsible.


Like criminals, you don't plan on getting caught.
 

Replace Australia with New Zealand and all hell is already breaking loose.

And to think? This could have been prevented had Facebook done their job and report on him the moment he has shown his guns in the car. Plus, Facebook is already going to court for their own spying crimes and this shooting will most likely put Zuckerberg's website out of business or blackmailed for good. Had he been stopped? The Muslims wouldn't have been killed and his plan would have not worked in the first place. Let's see if they can lie to their asses once the EU and UK both ban porn and the memes for all over the EU. Do you guys think most Europeans would be okay with this mess and go back to radio and TV.....




The answer is..... NOPE! They will be mad. A lot!
 
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And to think? This could have been prevented had Facebook done their job and report on him the moment he has shown his guns in the car.
Facebook is already going to court for their own spying crimes and this shooting will most likely put Zuckerberg's website out of business or blackmailed for good.
Had he been stopped? The Muslims wouldn't have been killed and his plan would have not worked in the first place.

1, Yeah, no. that is a bad take my guy. if showing guns in a car is justification for a investigation, well there is not enough police resources in the world.

2, Every media company is conviently ignoring the fact it was live streamed on facebook so they can go after the bald hacker known as 12chan

3, Had he been stopped the timer would have been set back a few months/years. this was a long time coming and every poster here who denies that is deluding themselves. we all knew someone would snap sooner than later.
 

Website Kiwi Farms refuses to surrender data linked to accused Christchurch terrorist Brendan Tarrant
Marnie O’Neill, news.com.au
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The American operator of a controversial website has smacked down a request by New Zealand police to hand over posts and video links that appeared on the site as the Christchurch terrorist attack unfolded.
In an obscenity-laden email, Kiwi Farms founder Joshua Moon dismissed the plea by Detective Senior Sergeant John Michael as “a joke”, labelling New Zealand “a small, irrelevant island nation” and “s***hole country”.
Moon is a former administrator of 8chan, the online message board where Brenton Tarrant posted details of his sick plan, along with a 73-page manifesto, hours before allegedly carrying out New Zealand’s deadliest terrorist attack.
Kiwi Farms, 8chan and a third online message board called Voat are all under investigation by authorities tracking Tarrant’s online activities. They are popular with incels (involuntary celibates), an online subculture of men who claim they are unable to find sexual or romantic partners.
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Joshua Conner Moon, 28, is a serial stalker who was linked to a 2016 spate of school shooting hoaxs in Florida. Picture: Creative Commons
Australian national Tarrant, 28, is in custody on murder charges after the massacre of 50 worshippers at two Christchurch mosques, which left 50 dead and dozens more wounded.
Moon — an alt-right, anti-feminist, pro-white Trump supporter who claims he set up Kiwi Farms for the “gossip and exploitation of the mentally handicapped for amusement purposes” — published the exchange with Detective Michael without bothering to hide the officer’s email address.
“I am hoping that you can help us with an investigation the New Zealand Police are working on,” Det Michael wrote in an email dated March 17.
“On 15 March 2019 there was a shooting in New Zealand with multiple fatalities at two mosques in the city of Christchurch. The alleged offender in this matter is a Brenton TARRANT.
“At around the time of the shooting there were a number of posts and links posted on kiwifarms.net relating to the shooting and TARRANT.




“We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc linked to these posts pending a formal legal request.”
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New Zealand Police confirmed the email exchange between Detective Michael and Kiwi Farms operator Joshua Moon was genuine. Picture: Kiwi Farms
Moon shot back: “Is this a joke? I’m not turning over information about my users.
“The person responsible for posting the video and manifesto PDF is myself.”
He continued: “I feel real bad for you guys, you’ve got a quiet nation and now this attack is going to be the first thing people think of for the next 10 years when they hear the name New Zealand, but you can’t do this.
“Tell your superiors they’re going to make the entire country and its government look like clowns by trying to censor the internet.
“You’re a small irrelevant island nation barely more recognizable than any other nameless pacific sovereignty. You do not have the clout to eradicate a video from the internet and you do not have the legal reach to imprison everyone who posted it.
“If anyone turns over to you the information they’re asking for they’re not only cowards but they’re f***ing idiots.”
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Joshua Moon’s foul-mouthed rant at Christchurch Police Detective Senior Sergeant John Michaels. Picture: Kiwi Farms
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Christchurch terrorist attack investigator Detective John Michael’s measured response to Moon’s obscenity filled tirade. Picture: Kiwi Farms
Moon followed up with another email abusing New Zealand authorities for their efforts to remove footage of the rampage, which was lifestreamed by Tarrant and has been circulating online ever since.
Facebook says it has removed more than 1.5 million videos from the social media platform but uncensored footage continues to be reskinned and shared on Kiwi Farms, 8chan and another message board called Voat.
That’s despite a warning from New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern that anyone caught downloading or distributing such material — especially the killer’s 17 minute bodycam footage — faces up to 10 years jail.
“I don’t give a single solitary f**k what section 50 of your faggot laws say about sharing your email,” Moon ranted in the second email.
“Fk you and fk your s***hole country, Kiwi Farms has nothing to do with New Zealand. “Our name is a pointed jab at some of the mushmouthed autistic people we make fun of. Absolutely nothing about our community is NZ oriented.


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To his credit, Det Michael refused to bite, replying instead with a polite acknowledgment of Moon’s views.
“Hi Josh,” he wrote. “Appreciate your quick response. Will definitely consider what you have said. Regards, John.”
New Zealand police verified the authenticity of the email exchange in a statement to news.com.au.
“I can confirm New Zealand Police made contact with the website as part of the ongoing investigation into the Christchurch terror attacks,” a spokeswoman said.
Before he founded Kiwi Farms, Moon was sacked as an administrator for 8chan for allegedly promoting paedophilia. He is notorious for his online stalking and harassment campaigns, which have featured threats to “rape, murder and dismember” his mainly female victims.
In 2016, Moon was linked to a series of online threats to harm children in Florida, where he shares a home with his mother, forcing dozens of schools into lockdown.



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NZ PM calls on gun owners to surrender their weapons
Originally published as Stalker site’s vile email to NZ cops


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Just as many people, including the fucking shooter, predicted, the govt of New Zealand is embarking on a massive lock-down of civil liberties following the ChristChurch massacre.

Not only are they threatening imprisonment for anyone who possesses the video of the incident, and threatening fourteen years in prison to those who 'deal' the video.
Two other gunmen in video, with location confirmation and same car
https://twitter.com/FreeThought84/status/1107171847014014976
Video has been taken down previously.

Some tweets from here:


https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1106969886440464385
Pete Breidahl says he PREVIOUSLY WARNED THE COPS about the Rifle Club that the New Zealand shooter attended. "It turns out that the guy that fuckin' murdered everyone in Christchurch was a member of the Bruce Rifle Club."

https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1106987664903933953
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New Zealanders threatened with 10 YEARS IN JAIL if they have the shooting video.
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"Anybody found “knowingly” in possession of objectionable material can receive a maximum of 10 years imprisonment." 14 YEARS IN JAIL if you are a "dealer" of the video

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YouTube is INTENTIONALLY DISABLING PARTS OF THEIR SEARCH SYSTEM so people can't look up Christchurch content. "this is temporary and part of our efforts to better respond, review and remove graphic, violative content from YouTube."
https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1107057558752321545
"New Zealand ISPs have banned http://dissenter.com until it is “censorship compliant,” despite the fact that Dissenter was in no way involved with this week’s tragic events in NZ." says @getongab
ZERO HEDGE BANNED IN NEW ZEALAND
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BREAKING: @nzpolice demand USER INFORMATION ("IP addresses, email addresses") from Kiwi Farms regarding the New Zealand attack https://kiwifarms.net/threads/2017-...uding-ip-addresses-email-addresses-etc.54376/ … USER. INFORMATION. FOR TALKING ABOUT IT. http://archive.li/v1cgk THIS IS AN INFRINGEMENT OF CIVIL LIBERTIES ISSUE NOW

But the New Zealand Police are also LYING about their response to the incident. If you've seen the video, linked above in the Incident thread, you can plainly see that the police took much longer to respond than they say they did.
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If you watched the video, the attack began the first shots rang out at 6:33 into the video, and the attacker had finished emptying several clips of ammunition into the people at the mosque, and shot three people on the street before getting to his car, running over the corpse of a woman he had just killed, and driving down the road. Using a pump shotgun to fire on people on the sidewalk. Even if you factor in that police were called a minute or two after the shooting began, sirens were not heard in the video until at least 15:23. He was still at the Mosque Seven minutes after the shooting started. They could have sent police from another area, that got there immediately after the shooter left, but when you look at maps of the region, things get a bit clearer. This police Twitter message in regards to the massacre is to praise the response time that is fucking embarrassing.
And here's why.
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The red marked Location is the first Mosque, confirmed by this image that matches the front of the building from the shooting.
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Now, compare this to the police locations in the area, as shown here;
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The Mosque isn't even ten blocks away from TWO police stations, and the closest two are in the same area, separated by only a few blocks. From the video, it appears the shooter leaves in his car going down Deans Ave towards Addington. He was almost four minutes away when the first sirens are even heard. Add this to the New Zealand government asking Null to give them all user information on those who post about the shooting here, and combine this with how the police are threatening 10 to 14 years in jail for possessing the video, and it appears they're censoring the internet to cover up this massive fuck up. There are three fully manned police stations within this very small area, and there wasn't a single squad-car, or response for longer than they claim. Even if I fucked my math up, and they got that response time, there is no excuse for how long this took. Gunshots are easily heard at the distance police are to the Mosque.
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The Police and armed units are happy for citizens to turn over their weapons, after a pathetic and failed response to a terrorist attack got 49 people murdered and dozens others horrifically wounded. Look at the comments to this shit show. People are fucking Applauding this. "Yes, please! Take our guns!"

The entirety of New Zealand should be ashamed for this obvious abuse of power, and the total failure of the emergency services. Average US police response time for crimes is 10 minutes. For high priority, or violent crimes such as shootings, average response time is 5 minutes.
Perhaps I'm paranoid, but it appears the New Zealand Government is terrified of this incident, and their response to it defining the country the world over. The mainstream media's reaction isn't helping either. With most of their vitriol going to the social media platforms sharing the video, instead of the actual shooting. One example being this Article from the Washington Post.
What do you folks think? Think removing guns and eliminating the video from public memory will help the situation?
NZ Police Commissioner's Twitter: https://twitter.com/NZPCommissioner
New Zealand PD Twitter: https://twitter.com/nzpolice?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
 
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