New Zealand Shooting Spergery

Do you think the NZ government have anything to do with this? Or have the right censor the internet?

  • No, they didn't have a part. But they should be allowed to censor.

  • No, they didn't have a part. But they shouldn't be allowed to censor.

  • Yes, they did have a part. And they should be allowed to censor.

  • Yes, they did have a part. And they shouldn't be allowed to censor.

  • I believe in a different reason, such as Israelites, and such.


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I swear if our nu-frens start talking about qanon and just believing im going to cry.
You're going to have to be specific what anything I said has to do with Q anon, I heard only few rumors about said poster around 2017 and most of it was obviously bunk, or is it you assume something I've said they may have said is instantly the only place I could have drawn a conclusion?
 
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Two other gunmen in video, with location confirmation and same car
https://twitter.com/FreeThought84/status/1107171847014014976
Video has been taken down previously.

Some tweets from here:
Tarrant's travels to places like Pakistan and North Korea should have caused him to come under scrutiny from intelligence services. If he started to radicalize two years ago why did he escape detection?
Witness statements say that the police took nearly 20 minutes to arrive and ambulances took half an hour. Why did this happen? Why did police not stop the attackers as they move past police stations from the first target to the second?
Instead of acknowledge police failures, Jacinda Ardern has focused on semi-automatic weapons bans. This is highly reminiscent of the Las Vegas shooting where the FBI refused to provide details while policy centered around tighter gun control.
Lastly, video footage that was circulating yesterday shows that police apparently shot at least one suspect but did not publicly report it. This footage has been censored but I retained a copy. Will see if there is a way to share it. The censorship raises some questions.

https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1106969886440464385
Pete Breidahl says he PREVIOUSLY WARNED THE COPS about the Rifle Club that the New Zealand shooter attended. "It turns out that the guy that fuckin' murdered everyone in Christchurch was a member of the Bruce Rifle Club."

https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1106987664903933953
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New Zealanders threatened with 10 YEARS IN JAIL if they have the shooting video.
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"Anybody found “knowingly” in possession of objectionable material can receive a maximum of 10 years imprisonment." 14 YEARS IN JAIL if you are a "dealer" of the video

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YouTube is INTENTIONALLY DISABLING PARTS OF THEIR SEARCH SYSTEM so people can't look up Christchurch content. "this is temporary and part of our efforts to better respond, review and remove graphic, violative content from YouTube."
https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/1107057558752321545
"New Zealand ISPs have banned http://dissenter.com until it is “censorship compliant,” despite the fact that Dissenter was in no way involved with this week’s tragic events in NZ." says @getongab
ZERO HEDGE BANNED IN NEW ZEALAND
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BREAKING: @nzpolice demand USER INFORMATION ("IP addresses, email addresses") from Kiwi Farms regarding the New Zealand attack https://kiwifarms.net/threads/2017-...uding-ip-addresses-email-addresses-etc.54376/ … USER. INFORMATION. FOR TALKING ABOUT IT. http://archive.is/v1cgk THIS IS AN INFRINGEMENT OF CIVIL LIBERTIES ISSUE NOW
 
One problem here--why did this Nork super spy livestream his mass murder? That makes no sense unless he was really was just doing it for the lulz like the Joker.
There are many ways in which it can make sense as a psyop:

  1. To try and instigate copycats by showing how its done
  2. To frame 8chan so that it can be censored
  3. To digitally flush out and see which people pay attention to these things
  4. Judging from the censorship clampdown, this may also be an internet censorship testrun


I mean, why does ISIS make videos of shit? Not for the lulz, I presume.

I mean, assuming that it would have been done by intelligence agency, it was far less likely to target these specific individuals, rather than the value of the media event and political value of the event.

And what better way to ensure many many people see it, than attempting to restrict it a little bit?
 
I mean, why does ISIS make videos of shit? Not for the lulz, I presume.

I mean, assuming that it would have been done by intelligence agency, it was far less likely to target these specific individuals, rather than the value of the media event and political value of the event.

And what better way to ensure many many people see it, than attempting to restrict it a little bit?

Let's assume this is a false flag for a minute. Firstly, why bother? The authoritarian state is chugging along just fine. Trump has been a minor roadblock worldwide, at best for that. Inflaming this political landscape as the shooter wrote, threatens the media and left to overplay it's hand. Which at the moment it's doing in New Zealand. And causing some people to stand up and take notice. In his manifesto, and stream, he makes references and jokes about things someone who hung out on imageboards for a long time would only get. Theres no reason to do that if you know the media isn't going to use it, or be aware of it.

Why ironically endorse Candace Owens and only reference Trump in the idea of a figurehead, instead of endorsing them sincerely, so no one is aware of the media manipulation? Why make distinctions about simply ejecting the Muslims from white countries instead of going for maximum damage and calling for the death of Blacks and Jews everywhere? Why write 1412 on his gun when he could've gone 1488 for maximum outrage for a firm connection to Nazis?

There's too many things that characterize him as a frustrated angry person than the stereotypical "Me love Hitler long time" the media wants.
 
Let's assume this is a false flag for a minute. Firstly, why bother? The authoritarian state is chugging along just fine. Trump has been a minor roadblock worldwide, at best for that. Inflaming this political landscape as the shooter wrote, threatens the media and left to overplay it's hand. Which at the moment it's doing in New Zealand. And causing some people to stand up and take notice. In his manifesto, and stream, he makes references and jokes about things someone who hung out on imageboards for a long time would only get. Theres no reason to do that if you know the media isn't going to use it, or be aware of it.

Why ironically endorse Candace Owens and only reference Trump in the idea of a figurehead, instead of endorsing them sincerely, so no one is aware of the media manipulation? Why make distinctions about simply ejecting the Muslims from white countries instead of going for maximum damage and calling for the death of Blacks and Jews everywhere? Why write 1412 on his gun when he could've gone 1488 for maximum outrage for a firm connection to Nazis?

There's too many things that characterize him as a frustrated angry person than the stereotypical "Me love Hitler long time" the media wants.


Well there is a problem here. A White "fascist." Wouldn't really endorse someone like Candace Owens, and although I know he did it purposely ironically, it could have been because he knew the name mention alone would drive the left and media into a frenzy. Same thing as the name drop of PewdiePie, and others.

The whole purpose of his memes could be a ploy to make him look relatable or like a general person. Most people assume the left can't meme, yet we see the CIA used memes for "warfare." Coincidence?https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a507172.pdf

Let me add if he's going to false flag as a "Fascist/White supremacist/Nationalist.. He has to make his act convincing, so being against Trump's "tolerant policy" towards immigration would obviously not be a White supremacist talking point. The fact he doesn't reference minorities or Jews is also very odd.

If it was a false flag by the government, they may have made it appear more natural by him being a "wild card" a joker, a buffoon who wasn't really a White supremacist but took on many of their mantras, and ideals .

If he's not actually a false flag shooter, he certainly gave off many odd vibes during the whole event and details surrounding it.

Not saying this is the case for clarification, but just some food for thought on some of the questions presented.
 
Let me add if he's going to false flag as a "Fascist/White supremacist/Nationalist.. He has to make his act convincing,

Considering the level of censorship and gatekeeping, you'd think that they are being counterproductive at the moment. Most normal people aren't going to go to some website on the ends of the internet to figure out how to use bit-torrent or something to grab the unedited video and pdf. They are getting all their information straight from the press. They have no idea how "relate-able" the shooter is at all.
 
Considering the level of censorship and gatekeeping, you'd think that they are being counterproductive at the moment. Most normal people aren't going to go to some website on the ends of the internet to figure out how to use bit-torrent or something to grab the unedited video and pdf. They are getting all their information straight from the press. They have no idea how "relate-able" the shooter is at all.
Well, it's not just for NPC's and people who only resort to the news. Look at this forum alone many people suspect the possibility of a false flag to be insane to even suggest. Which is kind of a good point to provide that if anyone suggest it is declared insane by that logic then they can do so without being discovered or caught out, right?

The normies are just there to act on their moral panic/fear mongering from the press. Which is why so many still forget the "No." comment after that one question of if games influenced him. (Even non-normies are missing this very thing)

He's relatable to forum goers, posters like you and I, he seems like a real person, flawed, inconsistent, which makes his "blending in" less suspect IF (and only IF) that is the case.
 
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Let's assume this is a false flag for a minute. Firstly, why bother? The authoritarian state is chugging along just fine.

This is presuming two things.
  1. The allegiance of the psyop to "the authoriarian state". It could be any of a number of countries responsible. It could be a country that does not consider the authoritarian state chugging along fine as a positive
  2. That it is "chugging along fine" in the first place. It is safe to say without security clearance, we have a far less good view of whether that is so.

There could be many different motives, even just as distraction from other news, which would be why this is created to maximally grab attention.

Trump has been a minor roadblock worldwide, at best for that. Inflaming this political landscape as the shooter wrote, threatens the media and left to overplay it's hand. Which at the moment it's doing in New Zealand.

Again presumptions. Why assume it's a leftwing aligned intelligence op? If this harms the left, that might have been the goal. I don't think it does threaten that, I think the media has been playing at being weak and meaningless, while still being a very powerful force. It might well be a strategy to be overlooked in how influential they still are.

And causing some people to stand up and take notice. In his manifesto, and stream, he makes references and jokes about things someone who hung out on imageboards for a long time would only get. Theres no reason to do that if you know the media isn't going to use it, or be aware of it.

Again, depends on the motives. Perhaps it's a way to make sure younger generation pays attention to it; if it was, it worked.

Why ironically endorse Candace Owens and only reference Trump in the idea of a figurehead, instead of endorsing them sincerely, so no one is aware of the media manipulation?
I've already heard people attack candace for being too extreme for the shooter. If anything, it tied Trump closer to the alt-right in the minds of people and that might cost votes. It is so steeped in irony and memery, that both the conclusions that he was longtime grognard or that it is a carefully made quality "hello fellow kids" are plausible.

Why make distinctions about simply ejecting the Muslims from white countries instead of going for maximum damage and calling for the death of Blacks and Jews everywhere? Why write 1412 on his gun when he could've gone 1488 for maximum outrage for a firm connection to Nazis?

I thought his gun said 1414? It said 1412?

Besides that, I'd say that so far there has been little evidence for the spencerian alt-right, the ones that care about 14, but not so much 88. There was that one driver, but if you look at the details, he wasn't out for blood.

Now there is something tying this more moderate depiction to excessive violence.

So this might well give a political cudgel around the world to attack white identitarians.

Like everything in this post it is speculation.

There's too many things that characterize him as a frustrated angry person than the stereotypical "Me love Hitler long time" the media wants.

That's presupposing that the goal would be to just have a hitlerian right wing attack. There are many other possible motives, including just wanting gun control to succeed in new zealand. All the disparate refferences, the scattershot of it, would be a perfect smokescreen for a psyop, as it is very hard to analyse. Which are red herrings? Which are actually important?

I don't know, so I could only speculate.

I do know that the new gun legislation building is a rapid fucking response. And the fact that that was the goal of this supposed right wing shooter puts any defense of it on the backfoot (surprisingly), because pointing that that was his goal is a very logical but unpersuasive method in the face of the emotion a horrific event as this created.
 
I think it's entirely obvious that it's a false flag. No blood until he does a lap of the building, video footage not matching with crime scene photos. People did die of course, gotta make it look a little real. But the majority were really poor crisis actors. Disappearing gun cartridges, pre-placed magazines... literally nothing in the video lines up with the government narrative. And just what was pedophile John Podesta doing in NZ, hm?

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False flags are a dime a dozen. Only shit that weirds me out is the fact that Josh Moon is in the fuckin' news.
 
I think it's entirely obvious that it's a false flag. No blood until he does a lap of the building, video footage not matching with crime scene photos. People did die of course, gotta make it look a little real. But the majority were really poor crisis actors. Disappearing gun cartridges, pre-placed magazines... literally nothing in the video lines up with the government narrative. And just what was pedophile John Podesta doing in NZ, hm?

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False flags are a dime a dozen. Only shit that weirds me out is the fact that Josh Moon is in the fuckin' news.


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False flags are a dime a dozen. Only shit that weirds me out is the fact that Josh Moon is in the fuckin' news.
The deaths happened, whether he was an mk-ultra sleeper agent destined to bring on the apocalypse is anybody's guess. Circumstantial evidence proves jack shit, and similarities can be found in your cat's litter box if you look for them.
 
Sadly, I agree at this point violence is inevitable because the Muslims despite feigning innocence are purposely trying to subvert via biological warfare.

I'm not surprised about your claims either, the Chinese are currently trying to colonize and take over Africa, and are probably planning to take over as a land grab struggle and could easily board wipe Africans considering their elites are selling them out too from people I've talked too from there who were rather informed.

In regard to nuclear war, I think they would be considering if a nuclear war were to start with many of these countries which would probably end up as midnight for humanity unless the Chinese are just that insane they don't care about a potential end of the world scenario. I wouldn't be surprised honestly.

Crawl on back to 8ch where you belong.
 
Crawl on back to 8ch where you belong.
Clever, instead of dispute what I say just make accusations of my character. Whoosh to people like you who didn't read my previous comments within the topic to get the context of what I said.

Edit: In case it isn't obvious, I'm not for any violence, it's something I foresee happening with events like this. In regards to China I was referencing the Chinese government being insane potentially if they aren't afraid of nuclear war with many countries (though most elites are insane so eh)
 
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Brenton Tarrant is a hero.

Why? Because he speed up what was coming to all of us.
Violence coming from mixing up & destroying whole cultrures and traditions of EU people.
Our goverments know about this, but they do it anyway because their plan is to censor internet (ACTA) and take away your freedom to do anything.
The only reason they did not want to speed it up like Brenton did, was because people would notice how important things like "internet" and "freedom" without censorship are.
When it will be too late to do anything, no matter how hard you will try, we won't be able to regain it back.

He is a hero, but not for murdering people, but doing what was needed to open eyes of common people or atleast slow down censorship process enough to let new generation grow up and take care of our right for FREEDOM.
FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE!
 
Brenton Tarrant is a hero.

Why? Because he speed up what was coming to all of us.
Violence coming from mixing up & destroying whole cultrures and traditions of EU people.
Our goverments know about this, but they do it anyway because their plan is to censor internet (ACTA) and take away your freedom to do anything.
The only reason they did not want to speed it up like Brenton did, was because people would notice how important things like "internet" and "freedom" without censorship are.
When it will be too late to do anything, no matter how hard you will try, we won't be able to regain it back.

He is a hero, but not for murdering people, but doing what was needed to open eyes of common people or atleast slow down censorship process enough to let new generation grow up and take care of our right for FREEDOM.
FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE!

You know, if you wanted to be plastered with autism stickers, you could have just asked.
 
Brenton Tarrant is a hero.

Why? Because he speed up what was coming to all of us.
Violence coming from mixing up & destroying whole cultrures and traditions of EU people.
Our goverments know about this, but they do it anyway because their plan is to censor internet (ACTA) and take away your freedom to do anything.
The only reason they did not want to speed it up like Brenton did, was because people would notice how important things like "internet" and "freedom" without censorship are.
When it will be too late to do anything, no matter how hard you will try, we won't be able to regain it back.

He is a hero, but not for murdering people, but doing what was needed to open eyes of common people or atleast slow down censorship process enough to let new generation grow up and take care of our right for FREEDOM.
FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE!

Alright, while I was being a stupid newfag with @Mewtwo_Rain, and my 8ch radar is a bit broken, I'd admit. But uh, can you fuck off back to 8ch where you seriously belong?
 
Brenton Tarrant is a hero.

Why? Because he speed up what was coming to all of us.
Violence coming from mixing up & destroying whole cultrures and traditions of EU people.
Our goverments know about this, but they do it anyway because their plan is to censor internet (ACTA) and take away your freedom to do anything.
The only reason they did not want to speed it up like Brenton did, was because people would notice how important things like "internet" and "freedom" without censorship are.
When it will be too late to do anything, no matter how hard you will try, we won't be able to regain it back.

He is a hero, but not for murdering people, but doing what was needed to open eyes of common people or atleast slow down censorship process enough to let new generation grow up and take care of our right for FREEDOM.
FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE!

No he was a hero for standing up against the bullshit idea that traps are gay.
 
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