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Vorhtbame said:
Michelle's school-lunch program didn't resolve that issue. In fact, no sooner did it go into action than suddenly there were "corporate partnerships" and empty promises from said corporations, at which point she stopped talking about things like sweeteners and fats added to processed foods. This is what usually happens with government programs that seize control of things; the corporations come swanning in with the government's blessing.

By the way, concern about school lunches is nothing new.
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The problem with “government solutions” is how overnight they become a taxpayer-funded feeding trough for corporate donors to politicians. You say you want to deal with childhood obesity? Well the actual problem would be solved by increasing recess (which schools don’t like because kids might get hurt and family members hold them liable, so chain them to a desk for the sake of our liability insurance) and just cooking real meals like chili or some shit, something that doesn’t pay back into the pockets of technology companies that have you money during your election campaign. Every single person trying to fix the issue will step on toes and be ousted for someone willing to Frankenstein together all the special interest pleading for a salary, and some extra scalping for special favors. That’s why rather than bringing back recess, the result of the healthy kids campaign was declaring pizza a vegetable.
 
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Cosmug said:
Well the actual problem would be solved by increasing recess (which schools don’t like because kids might get hurt and family members hold them liable
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Recess time means kids can't "study" for standardized tests, which is where schools get their funding from. The rest is on point.
 
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DanteAlighieri said:
Recess time means kids can't "study" for standardized tests, which is where schools get their funding from. The rest is on point.
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The goal of schooling is to get kids to pass tests, the tests aren’t really testing for life skills. They don’t teach you to write checks. They get rid of shop class and ease up the standards on math and English, lest someone fail and threaten the school’s funding. So we just waste 12 years of every kid’s childhood so that bureaucrats can get paid. The sooner the entire thing collapses the better, kids literally turned out better when they were thrown out of the house after breakfast with a library card and some pocket money for lunch.
 
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Cosmug said:
The goal of schooling is to get kids to pass tests, the tests aren’t really testing for life skills. They don’t teach you to write checks. They get rid of shop class and ease up the standards on math and English, lest someone fail and threaten the school’s funding. So we just waste 12 years of every kid’s childhood so that bureaucrats can get paid. The sooner the entire thing collapses the better, kids literally turned out better when they were thrown out of the house after breakfast with a library card and some pocket money for lunch.
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Public schools suck ass, almost as much as children of single moms.
 
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Cosmug said:
The goal of schooling is to get kids to pass tests, the tests aren’t really testing for life skills. They don’t teach you to write checks. They get rid of shop class and ease up the standards on math and English, lest someone fail and threaten the school’s funding. So we just waste 12 years of every kid’s childhood so that bureaucrats can get paid. The sooner the entire thing collapses the better, kids literally turned out better when they were thrown out of the house after breakfast with a library card and some pocket money for lunch.
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Godzilla@1989 said:
Andrew Yang tries to make the Left cured from TDS, but has zero luck.
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It's far, far better to enable concentrating political power into small geographical areas, which can then import and "buy" people to increase their share of the power until they are able to dictate everything to the rest of the population.

Because that's not precisely what states with legal slavery attempted to do.
 
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queue-anon said:
All first lady initiatives are fronts. Do you think anyone tracked Nancy Reagan's "just say no" campaign? Think it convinced any kids not to do drugs (in the '80s no less)?

One thing I agree with that infographic on is that Michelle's typical useless first lady initiative got a lot more autistic scrutiny than it deserved. Although most of it was about owning the libs and the typical fatass American reeing about being expected to eat vegetables, and not necessarily racism.
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It got a lot more scrutiny than it deserved because everything the Obamas did got way more praise than it deserved, and no scrutiny whatsoever by the mainstream media. People didn't just instantly forget the way everything bush did was talked about, and not notice the sudden fawning.

If you are gonna keep pointing at someone saying "LOOK WHAT A GREAT JOB THEY'RE DOING" you don't get to complain that too many people are paying attention when you make mistakes.

When the popular media spends all its time sucking up to Obama, it's natural some people are going to push back. But of course, it was all actually just racism. The damn lazy kids just didn't want to eat vegetables, yeah that's it.
 
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The Pink Panther said:
Legit, how the fuck was the electoral college made to preserve slavery? It was made so that you wouldn't have to campaign in only highly-populated areas.
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She's stating an incorrect conclusion. It was not there to preserve slavery, but it was indirectly gamed several times to preserve the balance between states that had economies that directly benefited from slavery and those with economies that did not.

The electoral college & bicameral legislature was set up so small, low-population states wouldn't have their voice completely drowned out by the larger states, while acknowledging that larger states with more people did need to have more say; it was to avoid a tyranny of the majority or minority. (also why a lot of big stuff needs 2/3 or 3/4 majorities instead of simple ones.)

Our TDS suffering racist ESPN hostess is responding to the fact that, firstly, many states that benefited from the increased voice provided by the EC were agriculture focused, and were therefore more likely to approve slavery as abolition would disproportionately affect them economically.
Secondly, this caused a lot of gamesmanship in congress when it came to adding new states, as the slave states knew very well what would happen if their voices in the senate were diminished. And the Anti-slave states not wanting to give those states any more of a voice than they already had. (See: Missouri Compromise)

She's really thinking of the 3/5ths compromise, as that was put in place to grant the slave-holding states more power in the house, to keep them in the union & delay the civil war a little longer.


The only possible non-EC fix has its own issues, which would require every resident of California and New York to move somewhere else for a period of 10 years to before they're allowed to vote, so they understand that universe doesn't end at the city limits. But this really a terrible idea, as I could not in good conscience violate people's rights like that... I mean inflicting California and New York residents on innocent people, just terrible.
 
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Ghostse said:
She's stating an incorrect conclusion. It was not there to preserve slavery, but it was indirectly gamed several times to preserve the balance between states that had economies that directly benefited from slavery and those with economies that did not.

The electoral college & bicameral legislature was set up so small, low-population states wouldn't have their voice completely drowned out by the larger states, while acknowledging that larger states with more people did need to have more say; it was to avoid a tyranny of the majority or minority. (also why a lot of big stuff needs 2/3 or 3/4 majorities instead of simple ones.)

Our TDS suffering racist ESPN hostess is responding to the fact that, firstly, many states that benefited from the increased voice provided by the EC were agriculture focused, and were therefore more likely to approve slavery as abolition would disproportionately affect them economically.
Secondly, this caused a lot of gamesmanship in congress when it came to adding new states, as the slave states knew very well what would happen if their voices in the senate were diminished. And the Anti-slave states not wanting to give those states any more of a voice than they already had. (See: Missouri Compromise)

She's really thinking of the 3/5ths compromise, as that was put in place to grant the slave-holding states more power in the house, to keep them in the union & delay the civil war a little longer.


The only possible non-EC fix has its own issues, which would require every resident of California and New York to move somewhere else for a period of 10 years to before they're allowed to vote, so they understand that universe doesn't end at the city limits. But this really a terrible idea, as I could not in good conscience violate people's rights like that... I mean inflicting California and New York residents on innocent people, just terrible.
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Also, about the 3/5ths' compromise, how hard would it be to calculate that? All slaves being 3/5ths of a person. How unnecessary.
 
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