2019-03-17 - New Zealand Police: "We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc"

[IamnottheNSA]

While Telstra has said that they're domain blocking because they think they should, Voda is trying to pretend differently because they're too fucking gutless to admit that they're doing it by choice.

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Nick Monroe on Twitter: "🚨Australian DOMAIN BLOCKING censorship of 4…

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Davey G on Twitter: "Getting the exact same page when I try to visit …

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>A domain that is distributing child sexual abuse material
How long until we're declared pedos too?

 

[repentance]

More interesting news on the censorship. Those of you who have been following this closely will recall that Sky TV (a satellite TV provider) removed Sky News Australia from their broadcasting. They have now refused to say if the NZ Police told them to remove the channel. So that means that yes, the police did ask them to remove it. That's a big difference from the story they have been spinning that the ISP's and TV news have been doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.

Removing Sky News was our decision, says Sky TV

Broadcaster says police not involved in decision to drop Sky News Australia.

www.stuff.co.nz

With regard to Aussie ISPs, at least, they are definitely doing it voluntarily. If they weren't, all of them would have done it by now.

I'd really like to know the exact time the video was classified as "objectionable" by the NZ censor, because it shouldn't be possible for it to be made illegal retroactively and for people who shared it prior to that time to be charged.

I'm not actually opposed to short term censorship. There were times during the Lindt Cafe siege when the media (it happened opposite a TV station) was asked to not broadcast stuff in real time and the public was asked not to share real time footage because they didn't want the gunman to know what the police were doing outside his line of site. I'm OK with that as long as it lasts only as long as necessary.

 

[Mikoyan]

I just love how Western countries are turning into the very things that British authors Huxley and Orwell warned against. I also find it highly ironic that, in particular, it so happens that the Commonwealth countries fit their fictional descriptions the most.. And yet Commonwealth citizens don't do anything about it. Simply amazing.

I'm not a constitutional scholar, per se, but I think this shows off the brilliance of the US Constitution, and the addition of the Bill of Rights. If you don't have hard and fast rules to protect certain basic rights from interference, barring extraordinary legislative effort, then those rights will inevitably be eroded. Most of the Commonwealth nations have, again IMO, had that happen.

The cry of "Do something, anything, right now" needs a voice of wisdom to temper it.

Yeah, they're really upset about it. Running a red banner at top of the page.

I want to see just how many people actually surrender their semi-automatic weapons.

Live: Christchurch mosque shootings: Changes to gun laws coming

Guns and social media in the site of the Government following mosque shootings.

www.nzherald.co.nz

The few data points I have are split between being in (IMO) denial that they're going to do it, and 'welp sucks I have to give them up'.

 

[von Hapasbourg]

maybe its time to make a subforum dedicated for law enforcement cows ?

 

[Poxy Fuckwit]

>Already downloaded the video, like this many times

In all seriousness, I don't know why people would want the footage removed from existence. It's only going to make mentally ill people commit more crimes in the future due to the existence of the video being completely deleted. They should've just not released the shooter's name instead.

 

[cuddle striker]

finally I'm an incel officially, in the land of sheep and hakas

edit wait, now I'm a stalker. for a commie pinko like me this is like getting medals I don't even deserve.I really love the way this site is always the exact opposite of whatever a cow believes in. to right wing dicks, we're sjw freaks. to lefties, we're altright incels. the whole goddamn kiwi is a chameleon

 

[das saerds]

Don't write like a faggot and we're deal.

Its for the n z security service, am here in ch-ch , can not be assed having to explain calling the f***er "a bunch of sticks ??"

 

[Big Question]

Some real bleeding heart faggots on my facebook feed. If they took a second to read a bit of the Koran they'd know its a brutal warrior religion and nothing like christianity. Inb4 old testament, no one fucking stones adultering women anywhere, not even in fundamentalist christian cult communes.

These fags will be bleeding heart all the way to the rope - just like they're about to be in the UK and europe when the moslems outnumber the infidels.
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Don't see anything he said that was wrong.....

 

[das saerds]

>Already downloaded the video, like this many times
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In all seriousness, I don't know why people would want the footage removed from existence. It's only going to make mentally ill people commit more crimes in the future due to the existence of the video being completely deleted. They should've just not released the shooter's name instead.

Now every imbecilic shall live-stream, secure in the knowledge when the STATE proclaims "VERBOTEN". Every spez and his waifu will - Download Complete -

 

[2nd_time_user]

The "New Zealand Justice point of view" is violating major civil liberties when they're going after everyone discussing the shooting or the video. So yes. Being angry when civil rights are violated is the appropriate response.

I'm angry because when child porn on the Internet laws were being made in the 1990s, people said they'd be used to shut down legal speech.
I'm angry because when the Patriot Act got passed in the 2000s, people said countries would use this to network and surveil unpopular speech.
I'm angry because at the eve of the 2010s, this is all coming to pass.

I'm also angry because how KF is being portrayed has nothing to do with why most farmers are here. The Schofeld thread, the Hooligan thread, the Jazz Jennings thread, the Jonathan Yaniv thread rage fury here because people here don't like grownups exploiting children. And in these Christchurch-related threads, the only ones sperging for a race war have had their account for two hours, and unlike the mainstream, @Null has decided to let people make fun of them and let that be the verdict, here.

 

[Kosher Salt]

Jesus, what a fucked up legal system you guys have over there. I'm looking at it from an Australian/New Zealand justice system point of view. For us, "assisting with enquiries" is the standard response because not talking to the police makes you seem guilty as fuck.

Makes him "seem" guilty? He literally admitted to the crime they're really concerned about: Sharing the video.

The person responsible for posting the video and manifesto PDF is myself.

That gets him up to 14 years in prison if he's under your fucked up legal system - luckily, he's not.

 

[mooncloset]

With regard to Aussie ISPs, at least, they are definitely doing it voluntarily. If they weren't, all of them would have done it by now.

I'd really like to know the exact time the video was classified as "objectionable" by the NZ censor, because it shouldn't be possible for it to be made illegal retroactively and for people who shared it prior to that time to be charged.

I'm not actually opposed to short term censorship. There were times during the Lindt Cafe siege when the media (it happened opposite a TV station) was asked to not broadcast stuff in real time and the public was asked not to share real time footage because they didn't want the gunman to know what the police were doing outside his line of site. I'm OK with that as long as it lasts only as long as necessary.

Necessary can be quite a long time depending on the government
But yes, in that situation it seems like people doing it out of the goodness of their heart is a good idea.

 

[Buzz Killington]

I'm almost 100% positive 4chan and 8chan just got blocked for me. ISP is Optus here in Australia.
Well, shit.
EDIT: Verified. Ran Windscribe and the site loaded instantaneously. This is fucked.

 

[Good]

Good job Null
I've decided to give this community a try, only because of the opposition you have given.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Yeah, I'm a huge tard. I think that we can all agree on that.

So I'll ask again; you're angry because they approached this from an New Zealand justice system point of view, rather than an American justice point of view? Using small workds like "yes" or "no" would help my massively damaged brain absorb your answer.

When dealing with a foreign country you go through the right channels. America does that when they have to deal with Canada and other countries. Your little shit hole just thought they could boss a forum around because they though Police = Intimidation. Your police are too stupid to understand that. Hell, if he really wanted the information, he would have contacted the FBI, however he and the FBI aren't on the greatest of terms since he never followed up on their information years ago.

 

[Ariel]

Good work Null. Freedom is so important!

 

[repentance]

I'm almost 100% positive 4chan and 8chan just got blocked for me. ISP is Optus here in Australia.
Well, shit.

KF has been a bit flakey for me this morning with Optus but it's been intermittent and it often happens when we're being DDoSed or otherwise getting a lot of traffic.

Connection is timing out for me on both 8ch and 4chan. I do not use the Optus DNS servers. Both are fine now that I'm posting from Japan.

 

[Ariel]

KF has been a bit flakey for me this morning with Optus but it's been intermittent and it often happens when we're being DDoSed or otherwise getting a lot of traffic.

Connection is timing out for me on both 8ch and 4chan. I do not use the Optus DNS servers. Both are fine now that I'm posting from Japan.

Get a VPN. I don't use 8ch but 4chan is working fine.

 

[heathercho]

I'm almost 100% positive 4chan and 8chan just got blocked for me. ISP is Optus here in Australia.
Well, shit.
EDIT: Verified. Ran Windscribe and the site loaded instantaneously. This is fucked.

Yeah it's def down for Optus and any Optus forks too. As soon as I loaded up ProtonVPN, everything ran as normal.
Scott Morrison has been calling for "censorship" of the internet too. Shorten also saying the same thing.
Fuck them both, tbh.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

I'm glad I live in a country where they don't block shit from what I've seen. I'd suck not being able to go on to my usual /tg/ pages