Manosphere Marijan Šiklić (ThatIncelBlogger)

[Marjan Šiklić]

Ah, the ride never ends.


Well, you are doing it the entire time, when you lust for some romanticised version of Ancient Rome and the great society they had back then, so what's wrong with that? The question why women's suffrage is inherntly bad (which doesn't exclude males from participation in politics, by the way) still remains unanswered.


What happened then (and please be a bit more wordy than "liberalism happened", I'll explain to you why below)


Again, there is absolutely zero evidence that something like this might have happened. You are jumping to conclusions because you equate "downfall" with "liberalism".


All women? Even explicitly conservative ones who think a woman's main task should be running the household and raising the children? And as far as I know, every worker is protected by government and legislature to a certain degree, regardless of their sex. So why is this something that outrageous?


Well, you brought up one major argument for that yourself: Both partners working actually means more income. Other than that geriatric care has been professionalised and elderly are no longer reliant on a family member always being within reach, mass production of devices that facilitate doing chores, an overall a higher standard of living and most importantly (it's probably not convincing to you though) the choice of the woman herself to stay in the workforce.


Oh for fuck's sake, replacing one meaningless buzzword with another one isn't going to help anybody here. Now listen: every political belief/ideology is the product of a certain time and its specific social, economic and cultural circumstances. As such, the categories they use are reliant on those circumstances (socialism and its use of the term "classes", overall post-Enlightenment political theory and its use of the term "reason" (as opposed to "cosmos" or "God")).
Now every one of these terms is ideologically charged, but you can still use them for your own worldview if you use them in a purely descriptive manner (which is why "classes" has become an established term). Now, the way you use the "term" liberalism" is completely devoid of any concrete reference to historical circumstances and is pretty much just a different way to pass judgement on a certain development in history that you don't seem to like. Your "liberalism" is pretty much Iconoclast's "change", useful for you maybe in order to find some ominous root of all evil, not very useful in discussions though.


So who did you mean?


Please don't expect me to read all of that. Copy the passages that prove that acknowledging female personhood automatically leads to mass rape and destruction and I'm more than willing to commentate on that.


I just loved the word "quality" when you described human beings, but I'm not going to start a discussion about pedagogics here.


You claim that the vast majority of males are seducers and then you say that they can't even hold a job? A bit strange, don't you think? The economy would be in a worse shape than it is today, if that were the case.
And by the way: I thought the rise of the seducers was tied to the rise of feminism. But now it seems that there has always been a majority of heartless seducers raping left and right and a few remaining nice guy providers longing for their sweethearts.


Could you provide us with a link?

- in order to understand women's suffrage would you mind a shorter text? http://www.coalpha.org/Against-Women-s-Suffrage-td7575097.html#a7576321
- what happened toward the end of a roman republic was a steep decline in trust among men. this is connected to liberalism. roman women behaved until 1century ad but then become wicked and even installed some emperors.
- there is proof it would happen. most of the legal institutions that regulated women were abolished during the empire (tutela mulierum, for example). they'd get suffrage if rome had been a democracy at the time
- your comparison of sluts and workers is baffling. workers provide but sluts only provide us with feral scum children. and, yeah, there are some conservative women but they're rare and still like to slut it up. they'll use the liberal state the first chance they get
- i understand that point. but it ultimately destroys a society
- what is the point of this? i don't like senseless arguments on definitions. it's obvious what i mean by these words.
- damn. i keep making a mistake there. finally - NOT ALL ANCIENT GREEK PHILOSOPHERS WERE LIBERALS. the late ones were. sorry.
- you seem like an intelligent person, why can't you read the essay? you can skim some bits of it but you'd have to read to understand.
- seducers always existed but in small numbers and were despised by women. only the dumbest sluts mated with them. since a modern woman is by a definition dumb slut now they thrive. they're still not a vast majority but it's getting there. there are still some beta suckers who work.

 

[The Dude]

I think littlebiscuits might be trying to establish markers of sociopathy. Relationships with pets and siblings hre relevant when going through the diagnostic criteria.

I could totally be wrong, sorry if I am, littlebiscuits!


For what it's worth I don't believe Holden is a sociopath.

No, just a psychopath.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

ruin - a study by denise donnelly

sociopaths and psychopaths have no emotion. i am as emotional as one could get. on the other hand, most of you are just what you call me

also, ruin, just the way it is defined makes it a thing, moron

 

[Cuck Norris]

- in order to understand women's suffrage would you mind a shorter text? http://www.coalpha.org/Against-Women-s-Suffrage-td7575097.html#a7576321
- what happened toward the end of a roman republic was a steep decline in trust among men. this is connected to liberalism. roman women behaved until 1century ad but then become wicked and even installed some emperors.
- there is proof it would happen. most of the legal institutions that regulated women were abolished during the empire (tutela mulierum, for example). they'd get suffrage if rome had been a democracy at the time
- your comparison of sluts and workers is baffling. workers provide but sluts only provide us with feral scum children. and, yeah, there are some conservative women but they're rare and still like to slut it up. they'll use the liberal state the first chance they get
- i understand that point. but it ultimately destroys a society
- what is the point of this? i don't like senseless arguments on definitions. it's obvious what i mean by these words.
- damn. i keep making a mistake there. finally - NOT ALL ANCIENT GREEK PHILOSOPHERS WERE LIBERALS. the late ones were. sorry.
- you seem like an intelligent person, why can't you read the essay? you can skim some bits of it but you'd have to read to understand.
- seducers always existed but in small numbers and were despised by women. only the dumbest sluts mated with them. since a modern woman is by a definition dumb slut now they thrive. they're still not a vast majority but it's getting there. there are still some beta suckers who work.

Citing yourself has literally never been acceptable unless it's a peer-reviewed, published paper.

 

[ON 190]

sociopaths and psychopaths have no emotion. i am as emotional as one could get. on the other hand, most of you are just what you call me

Sociopaths view themselves as the only "real" person and have a tendency to manipulate other people because they don't have empathy or even regard them as "real." They DO have emotions. Same with psychopaths.

 

[Pinhead]

sociopaths and psychopaths have no emotion. i am as emotional as one could get. on the other hand, most of you are just what you call me

"NO U"

That is the extent of your arguing skills.

And how come every time I've patiently answered your questions, there's never been a rebuttal? I think you know you're wrong, but your life is that much in the toilet that you don't even care. You're sticking to what you know, which thankfully isn't very much.

 

[Ti-99/4A]

Citing yourself has literally never been acceptable unless it's a peer-reviewed, published paper.

he's citing Fshithead actually.

 

[drtoboggan]

For what it's worth I don't believe Holden is a sociopath.

I don't either. Misguided and stubborn, and very certainly troubled, but not a sociopath. Don't prove me wrong, @Holden. And seriously, there's no shame in admitting a need for help.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

Citing yourself has literally never been acceptable unless it's a peer-reviewed, published paper.

Paper on what? Do you cite any of your claims?

dr - I'd like a help from a shrink, but a sane one. He/she would prove this by bringing me a head of a feminist.

 

[ON 190]

dr - I'd like a help from a shrink, but a sane one. He/she would prove this by bringing me a head of a feminist.

Okay, so... sane people want to be raped... or, rather, you can rape sanity into a person... so you want a therapist you can rape. Got it.

 

[Pinhead]

dr - I'd like a help from a shrink, but a sane one. He/she would prove this by bringing me a head of a feminist.

Your cock's so small, there's no way any more shrinking could possibly help.

Okay, so... sane people want to be raped... or, rather, you can rape sanity into a person... so you want a therapist you can rape. Got it.

He puts "the rapist" in "therapist"

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

As far as I know there hasn't been any research, which is why I suggested you look into it. As I've previously said, scientific data certainly helps with credibility. People are more likely to listen to your message if you've done research that backs you up with indisputable, unbiased fact. Within ten years there wouldn't be any sign of micro evolution that we could see, but men have been sowing wild oats since the beginning of time and it's never really taken hold, even in places unaffected by judeo-christian morality. If men only began the practice in the US (for argument's sake) in the last 30 years there would be signs of it - if it gave them any sort of biological advantage.

The thing is that until now, it didn't. It's only now that the stigma surrounding having children with multiple partners is lessening. There used to be consequences keeping it from being a successful biological strategy, but now those consequences are dying out (or at the very least, changing).

As an anthropologist I find the question of whether micro evolution favors men who father loads of children with different women or not really quite intriguing.

I won't be breeding, so I am happy to be an impartial observer.

Well, it's actually kind of a moot point then - if there's been no research on such biological adjustments you can't claim I am either right or wrong. Would there be any other adjustments aside from bigger testicles?

 

[littlebiscuits]

I think littlebiscuits might be trying to establish markers of sociopathy. Relationships with pets and siblings hre relevant when going through the diagnostic criteria.

I could totally be wrong, sorry if I am, littlebiscuits!


For what it's worth I don't believe Holden is a sociopath.

I was trying to establish that. And you know, just out of curiosity.

And I don't think he's a sociopath, though I could be wrong.

 

[For The Internet]

No, just a psychopath.

They're the same thing, really. If there is a difference, it's usually that sociopaths are the 90% who never harm people physically whereas psychopaths are the 10% who rape or kill or whatever. Psychopath might just be more pertinent considering the hypothetical situations Holden has presented about blackmail, rape and breaking body parts.

There are too many missing indicators for pure sociopathy/psychopathy as defined by criminal psych. It's a shame, it would be kind of cool to have a sociopath lolcow... they care so much about their image and can't stand being laughed at.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

Okay, so... sane people want to be raped... or, rather, you can rape sanity into a person... so you want a therapist you can rape. Got it.

I don't want to rape a therapist. I want that person to show they hate feminism.

For The Internet - don't give any fuel to their online diagnosing circlejerk.

 

[Pinhead]

I don't want to rape a therapist. I want that person to show they hate feminism.

Right. You want to rape your mother.

 

[Cuck Norris]

So I read through your blog and there isn't one cited source that proves Incel is really a thing. The only Google results for "Incel" are your blog, your Encyclopedia Dramatica page, and a bunch of forums making fun of your blog.

Can you point me to one serious scientific study on Incel? I don't want a link to your shitty blog, I want a peer reviewed journal with either an in depth study or multiple sources cited from other journals.

Can you do that? If not Incel is make believe and you are a deeply mentally disturbed and sad little man.

If this is true, and the only shit Google has on incel leads directly to you, that is your cue that it's not real. Also, it just dawned on me that because you live in Croatia you may not know everything that went on re: Elliot Rodger after the fact. Pretty much the entire United States of America realized he was a shitbag, and (thankfully) a vast number of "Men's Rights" scumbags realized that and if they didn't give it up, at least shut up about it. You seem to have some level of reverence for him even if you consider yourself smarter, like he's a martyr. That's not how he's looked on here. He was recognized as a pathetic whiny little shit that didn't understand it was time to grow up. (Sound familiar? inb4 "hurhur no u")

 

[Dalish]

I don't want to rape a therapist. I want that person to show they hate feminism.

Good luck.

 

[ON 190]

Well, it's actually kind of a moot point then - if there's been no research on such biological adjustments you can't claim I am either right or wrong. Would there be any other adjustments aside from bigger testicles?

I'm writing a folk song about you. It's called "Holden the Rape Ape." I expect it will be a chart-topper.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

PurpleMonkey - what a load of crazy. How do you mean incel isn't real? Have I ever said it is a disease or what?

As for ER and MRAs there isn't a single link between them. Are you bragging that Americans are morons?