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[Cosmug]

You would have a point if any of the "respected and intelligent" conservatives would have been able to actually defend conservatism at all, but they completely failed for decades to stop the long fall into the far left, and Trump is the first to actually be able to get some wins against the left in decades.

Also he had to call it the Muslim Ban for the same reason he has to call it The Wall, it's obvious to anyone with a few brain cells. I really don't understand why exceptional individuals that have been proved wrong time and time again and did nothing but lose all the time keep trying to tell Trump what to do.






It was indeed the smartest idea, any other name and it would have been just an empty campaign point that politicians put in their webpage and no one cares about.

Democrats will never shut up about anything anyways, if they happen to get out of things to complain and whine about they just invent new stuff, and the only thing splitting the Democrats is their indecision between becoming communists or fascists.

The problem with “respectable conservatism” is that it’s responsive, not proactive making it utterly subservient to the news cycle and big money donors. For several elections people who don’t want America to descend into a socialist hellhole have had to pick between a left winger who wants to go there fast and a “conservative” who is willing to compromise on going there slightly more slowly.

 

[thismanlies]

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Weren’t people shitting on the libertarians because they wanted open borders, zero national security, and doctors to give heroin to five year olds? Also I seem to remember Gary Johnson acting especially goofy by grabbing his tongue in the middle of an interview.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Are you serious or are you actually exceptional?

Do you really don't understand why Trump talks they way he does and says the things he does, seriously it's been 3 years now, could you at least get a hint by now?

OK buddy. Normally when one is disagreeing and hopes to have the other person in the argument see their point of view, they might do something like, you know, explain why they think something, rather than just mocking the other person for NOT thinking it.

You just did the "Well haha I'm not going to do your research for you to back up my claim just read the entire internet and you'll see I'm right". Only jackasses do that. You are a jackass.

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

Weren’t people shitting on the libertarians because they wanted open borders, zero national security, and doctors to give heroin to five year olds? Also I seem to remember Gary Johnson acting especially goofy by grabbing his tongue in the middle of an interview.

The big-L Libertarian party has degenerated into Democrats 2: Leftist Harder. Gary Johnson was actually further left than many of Hillary's public stances, besides being a stoned idiot. They got so focused on "We're the party of legalized pot! Doesn't that make you want to vote for us, Youth Vote?!" that they completely and totally lost any form of quality control over their party. Given a choice between voting for Bernie Sanders and voting for Gary Johnson I'd vote for a meteor to hit the debate.

 

[The Pink Panther]

The big-L Libertarian party has degenerated into Democrats 2: Leftist Harder. Gary Johnson was actually further left than many of Hillary's public stances, besides being a stoned idiot. They got so focused on "We're the party of legalized pot! Doesn't that make you want to vote for us, Youth Vote?!" that they completely and totally lost any form of quality control over their party. Given a choice between voting for Bernie Sanders and voting for Gary Johnson I'd vote for a meteor to hit the debate.

Which is why most normal Libertarians don't like the Libertarian Party. Most of the normie-Liberts, like myself, lean right.

 

[Imnus]

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D'Souza is just evidence that there is many Trump supporters who are more insane and stupid than even the worst sjws.

Ah, LOLbertarians. It would be so funny if they could actually accomplish anything ever.

Have fun with the NAP (Not Attack-me Please!)

The problem with “respectable conservatism” is that it’s responsive, not proactive making it utterly subservient to the news cycle and big money donors. For several elections people who don’t want America to descend into a socialist hellhole have had to pick between a left winger who wants to go there fast and a “conservative” who is willing to compromise on going there slightly more slowly.

I think the real problem is that fighting marxism with “respectable conservatism” is like fighting with your two hands tied behind your back in a real fight, you can't fight propaganda with facts, that's just ridiculous; and you can't fight indoctrination at every level of culture and society with values, that's just naive.

If anything Trump it's very reactionary (which it's the same as responsive but all guns blazing), at times you need to be proactive and at times you need to be responsive, what you can't be is a milquetoast.

OK buddy. Normally when one is disagreeing and hopes to have the other person in the argument see their point of view, they might do something like, you know, explain why they think something, rather than just mocking the other person for NOT thinking it.

You just did the "Well haha I'm not going to do your research for you to back up my claim just read the entire internet and you'll see I'm right". Only jackasses do that. You are a jackass.

I think you misunderstood me, I've no interest whatsoever in you seeing my point of view or agreeing with me in any way whatsoever, I just find it funny you still don't get it.

And I'm not a jackass, I'm an asshole. Please refers to my pronouns properly, thank you.

 

[Cosmug]

I think the real problem is that fighting marxism with “respectable conservatism” is like fighting with your two hands tied behind your back in a real fight, you can't fight propaganda with facts, that's just ridiculous; and you can't fight indoctrination at every level of culture and society with values, that's just naive.

If anything Trump it's very reactionary (which it's the same as responsive but all guns blazing), at times you need to be proactive and at times you need to be responsive, what you can't be is a milquetoast.

I mostly meant that the topic of conversation was constantly set by the press and the outrage-mob left. Everything discussed on the news was set by the priorities the press has for news ratings and the left has for politicking. That particular form of interviews where the conservative is brought on to discuss a topic like taxes or something and the interviewer insists that he denounce eating puppies first because there was some irrelevant ghetto where some fag kicked a dog and it sparked twitter outrage. In that sense you’re correct that Trump is still frequently reactive but he at least approaches with his own views and rarely gets shouted down by asshats.
You absolutely can’t fight propaganda with facts when the population is incurious, that’s the biggest sin of millennials.

 

[dreamworks face]

Yeah, exactly, this. I'm not saying he has to play the respectability game, just not say fucking stupid shit like "Mexico is sending their rapists, etc, and I'm sure some of them are good people". What benefit is there to putting it that way? You're just giving the other side an excuse to ignore you.

Donald Trump said "mexico is sending their rapists" in 2015 - this was back when Trump was most famous for getting dunked on by Obama in the white house press correspondence over his birther claims, hitting Vince McMahon with a chair on wrestle-mania, and having a hit TV show called the apprentice. Perversely, in the fucking crazy system that US politics, going on about building walls and mexico and rapists is apparently what you need to say to get taken seriously as a presidential candidate. If he hadn't come on that strong, people would've considered him a joke candidate and blew him off.

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

If he hadn't come on that strong, people would've considered him a joke candidate and blew him off.

People did consider him a joke candidate, until Hillary instructed the loyal media to give him all the attention and make it seem like he was the frontrunner and the new face of the Republicans. She thought he was the only one she could absolutely, certainly beat, and it turned out that he was the only one she would absolutely and certainly lose to. The 2016 election was 100% Hillary finally shooting herself in the back of the head instead of having it done to someone else.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

People did consider him a joke candidate, until Hillary instructed the loyal media to give him all the attention and make it seem like he was the frontrunner and the new face of the Republicans. She thought he was the only one she could absolutely, certainly beat, and it turned out that he was the only one she would absolutely and certainly lose to. The 2016 election was 100% Hillary finally shooting herself in the back of the head instead of having it done to someone else.

And the various videos showing Hillary fainted at the 9-11 Memorial and when she coughed a lot, didn't helped things for Hillary either.

 

[Gingervitis]

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

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Who's gonna tell "magicmaverick890" that unions aren't supposed to be blamed for anything ever, certainly not being greedy?

 

[Vault Boy]

And the various videos showing Hillary fainted at the 9-11 Memorial and when she coughed a lot, didn't helped things for Hillary either.

Makes me wonder how much worse she'd age if she was president. I mean, just look at what that shit did to Obama.

 

[Imnus]

I mostly meant that the topic of conversation was constantly set by the press and the outrage-mob left. Everything discussed on the news was set by the priorities the press has for news ratings and the left has for politicking. That particular form of interviews where the conservative is brought on to discuss a topic like taxes or something and the interviewer insists that he denounce eating puppies first because there was some irrelevant ghetto where some fag kicked a dog and it sparked twitter outrage. In that sense you’re correct that Trump is still frequently reactive but he at least approaches with his own views and rarely gets shouted down by asshats.
You absolutely can’t fight propaganda with facts when the population is incurious, that’s the biggest sin of millennials.

I wouldn't blame millennials anymore than past generations. For example, nothing have been a biggest disgrace in the USA than the 60s & 70s, a huge chunk of the population bought the most obvious marxist propaganda hook, line and sinker, and even when the atrocities in the Soviet Union were clear as day for anyone to see, they still refused to admit they were wrong.

The population has always been incurious, if anything people are much more curious now, though maybe just because it's actually a lot easier to find information.

Papers like The New York Times were a respected newspaper not because they were any better than they are now, but because the majority of people actually fell for their shit.

At least millennials have the excuse that they have been brainwashed and indoctrinated their whole life.

 

[thismanlies]

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This is so absurd, I have a hard time imagining Moviebob making that statement. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me at all if this guy stepped in dog shit and thought "Donald Trump must have trained some dog to do this."

 

[It's HK-47]

Makes me wonder how much worse she'd age if she was president. I mean, just look at what that shit did to Obama.

"All of these rumours surrounding President Clinton's health are ridiculous and unsubstantiated."

 

[ProgKing of the North]

To be fair, conservatives/Republicans do have to face the fact that they have done a lousy job marketing to young people, and they can't just try to wave it all away by "well, those people are retarded and we don't want them anyway"

 

[The Pink Panther]

To be fair, conservatives/Republicans do have to face the fact that they have done a lousy job marketing to young people, and they can't just try to wave it all away by "well, those people are exceptional and we don't want them anyway"

You are absolutely right. At least the liberals/Democrats try to r/fellowkids people.

 

[It's HK-47]

Jesus, lol. Those polls always oversample Democrats, too. That's just nuts.

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

To be fair, conservatives/Republicans do have to face the fact that they have done a lousy job marketing to young people, and they can't just try to wave it all away by "well, those people are exceptional and we don't want them anyway"

I think it's more "Maybe more of them will understand our viewpoint once they grow up and get real person jobs" but either way it's extremely naive. The Democrats have always been fantastic at PR spin and social engineering (because they sure as shit can't govern so they've gotta get votes somehow), and the Republicans have largely floundered around doing fuckall in that arena.